Ren'Py Lessons in Love [v0.54.0] [Selebus]

[Moonflare]

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[Budoop]

My guess is that it has to do with Ami killing herself at the tree. I mean, why would she even go there and have a showdown with the entire family (and Nodoka for whatever reason?), win, then hang herself?

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Maybe im minimizing but i'm pretty sure she went there for the tree.
Whether or not Sekai is buried beneath it is up for debate, but it's the same tree type that is often connected to her, and Tsubasa seems to have had connection to Sekai at some point (unless im fever dreaming that part, cant remember my source on it rn).
Also I don't think she "had a showdown". She likely found them limp (like Nodoka is) and just started cutting

 

[Detective Dc345]

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I believe the Tsukioka's have been strong arming their wealth. I wouldn't put it behind Tsubasa to do so, to push her agenda. I can see Touka finding out about this and doing a hostile take over and righting the wrongs her family has been doing.

As for Ami, she probably went to confront Touka, after what she said during the Dorm Wars. She did have that smile with murderous intent behind it, after Touka's set. How she managed to pack up the Tsukioka bloodline + Yuki and Nodoka is beyond me. Unless there was some sort of chain reaction like: Ami goes to attack Touka, Tsubasa steps in to protect Touka, then Yuki steps in protect Tsubasa, and they all ended up dead in the process. The only reason I can think she would murder Tsukasa would be out of jealousy. I wouldn't put it past Ami for being petty and straight up murdering Tsukasa in cold blood, for the simple fact that she has a mother that's alive (or was at the time) and she doesn't. I mean she shanked Nodoka for looking at Sensei funny. And Nodoka probably watched all that go down and said something, well Nodoka would say and got stabbed, because she's Nodoka.

 

[TheGoodPastor]

Maybe im minimizing but i'm pretty sure she went there for the tree.
Whether or not Sekai is buried beneath it is up for debate, but it's the same tree type that is often connected to her, and Tsubasa seems to have had connection to Sekai at some point (unless im fever dreaming that part, cant remember my source on it rn).
Also I don't think she "had a showdown". She likely found them limp (like Nodoka is) and just started cutting

Nah I think this makes the most sense too.

As for Tsubasa having a connection to Sekai there hasn't been any overt concrete evidence but there's been speculation that Sekai is the girl who taught Yuki and some of her gang English - which she mentioned during her camping event - so that's probably what you're thinking of?

Along with the brief mention during Tsubasa's last event that her and Yuki had another close friend no longer around that might reinforce that;

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And of course that circumstance might explain both her desire to nurture that tree and her original interest in Akira.

 

[crustlord12]

So just so I understand, if a girl has died during the reset process, do the custodians still need to reset them? I wonder what purpose is served by Ami killing everyone/herself (unless it's just catharsis for herself?)

And for the RAS/Sensei who remembered through the loops, are these failed custodial resets? Did the custodians choose to not reset/not manage to find the RAS girls in time before the world started over, and that's why they kept their memories? It can't be that the custodians attempt to reset them and they remember in spite of it, because we see Ayane and Akira experience pain when remembering. The RAS girls just genuinely remember everything.

 

[aramaug]

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I agree with Budoop about Ami visiting her mother's tree and also about the lack of a showdown (Ami's victims all have the same white eyes as doll Sana, whereas her corpse doesn't because she was awake). I have some questions of my own about this scene:

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As for Ami, she probably went to confront Touka, after what she said during the Dorm Wars.

Himawari cleaned Touka at the beach along with the rest of the girls, she wasn't at the manor.

 

[shmurfer]

damn what if he just literally fucked a cat and named her Maya, and eventually Maya turned into a human

With that cock? I doubt it was in that order.

What makes me a bit anxious is that we still don’t understand to what extent Ami can intervene in the world, and whether, for some reason, she might have eventually gained powers like Himawari’s. And what if she were able to enter the simulation, and it was actually her who was talking to Akira on the phone? Now Ayane is in danger, because she might be a major obstacle to Ami’s goals.

She keeps telling people they overestimate her power. She just has knowledge.

Updates like this one, where the whole story is completely on rails, have until now been the exception rather than the rule. We'll see how it goes from here. With the roadmap for the story that we were given, it does look like these might start being a thing.

I kind of agree that the sandbox-y parts are better, since they can give you a more drawn-out experience if you choose to play it that way (and the guides are always there if you don't or just need to get unstuck). But the writing has been consistently entertaining regardless of story format, and that is the most important thing for me.

First half of chapter 3 was on more rails than part 1 of Chapter 4, just because there were menus you had to navigate doesn't change how much of the cycle was auto events just set a week later or so.

In contrast, this is just following the pattern from last year only slightly elongated this time. Last year had a to be continued after sensei quest, and if you're playing on a modern update you only have 5 days between the end of the reset where they wake up with Yumi in the storage shed, to the beginning of the christmas update in 0.46 (Just enough time to legitimately grind molly lust for that chain if you had the shampoo and just got rid of it). Now it's just actually chained to the christmas update because they're trying to compress halloween and christmas with the beach trip.

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Without Sensei there to alter perception, maybe the press found out about Tsubasa's plan to marry a child off to a suitor and they got cancelled.

Speaking of things that haven't been mentioned, how long have the Tsukiokas known about the custodians. Apparently they haven't been active in 23 for a long time until Himawari but Tsubasa noticed immediately.

and Tsubasa seems to have had connection to Sekai at some point

Just implications, but she does have the only everblooming sakura tree, she knows about aki-kun, she's talked a lot about an old friend, including that there was a third to the duo of Tsubasa and Yuki. Sekai would be at the right age.

 

[Detective Dc345]

Spoiler: I think I'm in love with Wakana and Shiori now

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*Add on: Neat! 3000 pages of shit posts, memes and theories!

 

[TheGoodPastor]

1. Is it possible there were two Amis?

There's precedent for the possibility of a clone. There were two Futabas during this reset, and Himawari says that happens sometimes in this world. During the Karaoke booth reset, we saw two Amis (there's a second Ami in the background after the first one is murdered). Maybe this is a strategy she uses to escape the custodians, letting them mind wipe the wrong Ami.

That could also explain the violently murdered Ami at the end of Chapter 3, which seemed too much for suicide. I think I'm buying this theory.

3. How does Tsubasa manage to remember things?

 

[Detective Dc345]

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[FireCazador]

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Lord have mercy, that Miku and Noriko must have a doggystyle scene this chrismalloween (or how tf its called), Otoha as Jinx was not in my bingo and i know the character Uta is dressed but cant remember her name, all i remember are her thights. And it looks that this year Hoyo game is ZZZ, Rin as Jane, Ayane as Burnice and Maya as Ellen

Special mention, Chika's custome is hot

Should be coming out on the first of March if things go the usual way.

For a moment i was like "wait, what? oh hell no" xdd

 

[Detective Dc345]

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[TheGoodPastor]

Lord have mercy, that Miku and Noriko must have a doggystyle scene this chrismalloween (or how tf its called), Otoha as Jinx was not in my bingo and i know the character Uta is dressed but cant remember her name, all i remember are her thights. And it looks that this year Hoyo game is ZZZ, Rin as Jane, Ayane as Burnice and Maya as Ellen

Special mention, Chika's custome is hot

The real question is who will Yumi be coming as? This is her year, it must be.

 

[youraccount69]

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[fdsasdf_p]

My guess is that it has to do with Ami killing herself at the tree. I mean, why would she even go there and have a showdown with the entire family (and Nodoka for whatever reason?), win, then hang herself?

My guess is that Ami isn't there for any Tsukioka, but for Nodoka, who've just asked Touka about the sakura tree that never dies. This headcanon of mine is that Nodoka went there to get to the bottom of that tree (both literally and figuratively), and Ami was there to stop that from happening.

Like you said, Ami almost didn't have any strong enough reason to kill those Tsukiokas (during a reset, no less. I'd be dodging Shi-chan at all costs instead of taking my time sawing a rich kid) unless I force the weird presence of Nodoka and that particular room into her incentive. Of course, I still can't explain how Ami knew Nodoka headed that way, or why somehow Nodoka wasn't the first to get dissected, or how Nodoka wanting to know more really contributes to painting herself as Ami's target ; this headcanon simply goes for what is spicier and not what is more possible for now.

As for Ami, she probably went to confront Touka, after what she said during the Dorm Wars. She did have that smile with murderous intent behind it, after Touka's set. How she managed to pack up the Tsukioka bloodline + Yuki and Nodoka is beyond me. Unless there was some sort of chain reaction like: Ami goes to attack Touka, Tsubasa steps in to protect Touka, then Yuki steps in protect Tsubasa, and they all ended up dead in the process. The only reason I can think she would murder Tsukasa would be out of jealousy. I wouldn't put it past Ami for being petty and straight up murdering Tsukasa in cold blood, for the simple fact that she has a mother that's alive (or was at the time) and she doesn't. I mean she shanked Nodoka for looking at Sensei funny. And Nodoka probably watched all that go down and said something, well Nodoka would say and got stabbed, because she's Nodoka.

I might need someone to look into this with me because I didn't think Touka was in the sakura room during this reset.

- When Hima-chan ran through her list, the main cast she was still missing were Ami, Futaba, Nodoka, and Rin. This means Touka must've been accounted for already without visiting the sakura room.

- When Shi-chan went to the sakura room, she counted 5 people and originally I didn't think Ami was one of the five. I thought those five were Touka/Tsubasa/Tsukasa/Yumi/Nodoka while Ami killed the first three. However, with Hima-chan's situation, it feels like the "five grouped up here in the mansion" were actually Ami/Tsubasa/Tsukasa/Yumi/Nodoka.

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[Markbassplayer]

Its not over yet. Akira supposedly wished Maya into existence, there is no proof this did not involve a cat turning into Maya.

damn what if he just literally fucked a cat and named her Maya, and eventually Maya turned into a human

You know what? You're right. I've changed my mind, CatMaya theory is back in play!

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[Bingoogus]

I was under the impression Ami likely cut up the Tsukiokas for the same reason she cuts up a lot of people, making a mess for the janitors, she did leave a sign next to her corpse saying to leave her alone... my take was she fucking hates them and enjoys making work for them... but maybe i'm just projecting my own pettiness onto Ami...

 

[Rincon]

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Not even a small clue what Nodoka is doing there, and I might be misremembering extremely hard... But isn't Sekai under the tree? Maybe Ami is for whatever reason aware of this and she just spends her time going after the Tsukiokas sometimes during the resets because of that?
Edit: Keep in mind I basically remember nothing at this point, just throwing my thoughts out there.

 

[fdsasdf_p]

So just so I understand, if a girl has died during the reset process, do the custodians still need to reset them? I wonder what purpose is served by Ami killing everyone/herself (unless it's just catharsis for herself?)

And for the RAS/Sensei who remembered through the loops, are these failed custodial resets? Did the custodians choose to not reset/not manage to find the RAS girls in time before the world started over, and that's why they kept their memories? It can't be that the custodians attempt to reset them and they remember in spite of it, because we see Ayane and Akira experience pain when remembering. The RAS girls just genuinely remember everything.

This is the still elusive part of reset despite the recent huge reveal I believe. We know how reset works on someone when it's done properly. We essentially still don't know how it unfolds if any part of that goes wrong, so the following involves a lot of my guesses.

Spoiler: GUESS

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[Yarazin]

So with what we know now, what happened at the end of chapter 3 with Maya? Was Himawari invisible and watching them bang and then reset Maya during it? Did Maya pop because the "world" then put her somewhere else? Is it Hinawari we have to blame or did Perry order it so she had no choice? We've talked about prime being trapped somewhere but is Nu Maya just prime with a memory wipe? And does any of this explain the reset puzzles? Remember Himawari dancing during that one puzzle?