VN Ren'Py Let the Nightshine In [v0.17 Ch. 2] [Sieglinnde]

[Sieglinnde]

I mean yea... If you paint it like THIS, ANYTHING she does makes sense to her character. She could order Pineapple on her pizza, take a bit and spit it out because she hates Pineapple on Pizza. It'd make sense! She could Wear a MAGA hat to the polls as she's voting for Biden. She could do any amount of contradictions and according to how you describe her, it'd make sense.
If she's a schizo, then everything makes sense 100%.

She's a, lets say "free spirit" before the game starts. Becomes completely faithful on a dime after she meets MC. Has 1 drink, becomes a "free spirit" Again. Stops for a few weeks to be faithful to MC ...again. Has 1 drink, goes back to being a "free spirit". She could have had sex with Tyrone when she was single but waited until she got into a relationship to do so. Consistently inconsistent. BUT if you paint her as a character that just does anything they what, changing her mind on a whim you can excuse any of those inconsistencies as "just Ariana being Ariana!".
It also gives the Dev a "Get out of jail free card" to Do anything he wants with the character free of any critique from supporters. Any in game decision she makes that seems odd will be seen as "Just Ari being Ari!" you know how she is! She can change on a dime, that liberal, horny, emotional girl!

 

[Griev]

I don't know about all that but damn I love seeing Ariana getting blacked.

Could you imagine Ari getting pregnant but we tell everyone the baby is mine? Poor Tyrone would be devastated but he is just a beta so his feelings are irrelevant.

She already said she'd have Mason's baby and make MC raise it, so that'd be your best route !
Close enough? Finally, Joshy has his dreams come true!

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

I mean yea... If you paint it like THIS, ANYTHING she does makes sense to her character. She could order Pineapple on her pizza, take a bit and spit it out because she hates Pineapple on Pizza. It'd make sense! She could Wear a MAGA hat to the polls as she's voting for Biden. She could do any amount of contradictions and according to how you describe her, it'd make sense.
If she's a schizo, then everything makes sense 100%.

She's a, lets say "free spirit" before the game starts. Becomes completely faithful on a dime after she meets MC. Has 1 drink, becomes a "free spirit" Again. Stops for a few weeks to be faithful to MC ...again. Has 1 drink, goes back to being a "free spirit". She could have had sex with Tyrone when she was single but waited until she got into a relationship to do so. Consistently inconsistent. BUT if you paint her as a character that just does anything they what, changing her mind on a whim you can excuse any of those inconsistencies as "just Ariana being Ariana!".
It also gives the Dev a "Get out of jail free card" to Do anything he wants with the character free of any critique from supporters. Any in game decision she makes that seems odd will be seen as "Just Ari being Ari!" you know how she is! She can change on a dime, that liberal, horny, emotional girl!

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I mean, if you look at Ariana as a character meant to exclusively satisfy an interracial ntr fetish, every one of her actions becomes pretty damn consistent

 

[Sieglinnde]

hahahahah, it's funny to read that in this game there is someone coherent, hahahahhaha, every character fucks with others, horns on horns, no hesitations, for the Dev every family is depraved and without morals, this game has no story, game is a big word, it's a kinetic video, where the Dev expresses his loving pro-BBC tendencies and a typically dumb White Guy. hahahaah

I really appreciate all of the people coming to tell me their opinion they have about the game, but that doesn't mean you have to take advantage of someone saying something negative that you also think to take advantage and "attack"... You've already done this several times, and with different accounts... This is like the fourth one you've created

 

[stahalle]

So, you are so omnipotent that you think you can continually ban me, just because my reviews are done with criteria, what's the point, they continue to muddle me, but I already have the next account ready, that's what I find petty, people like you and others Dev, don't create games, only create interactive videos, already set to NTR, and even worse, all the same in plot, hahahha, create BBC with 30cm dicks, and all the idiot and weak white boys, this is racism and bullying, and it is shameful that anyone who tells the truth is silenced, in the last chapter, you also offended my religion, a morally horrible character like Ariadne, who calls God and Jesus to help her with sex. SHAME

joseph is the first known cuck and the bible the first written ntr bock in history. marie was a bitch that just needed a story to tell her husband because she cheated and got pregnant. so yeah i think Ari is allowed to use god and jesus in this story. oh and btw bbc in games and porn is a kink not racism. there are many more like that. bwc for example is the opposite and with white guys or byc with asian guys.

 

[stahalle]

If the white boy was the bull in the games, and fucked the black girls, stealing them from the black boys, here we would have shouted, the scandal, tarnishing a religion and its values have no similarities with who the first Cuck was, or Maria before the redemption from whore to caste, you made a useless and inappropriate comparison, but it's easy for you to criticize and throw mud on other people's religions, right, so it works for people like you. SHAME

no we not. look at grandmas house there the mc is white and steals the black woman from her husband and nobody is there and say that is racist. good that im not religios. im a person that belive in sience not in storys that people invented hundrets of years ago.

 

[Kotobiki]

Now on the site he is also authorized to criticize the Catholic religion, offending it, I want to see what the Italian translators who are on the forum think about it, Shame

Yo Alysss, how you been? Don't you get tired of having problem with mods and having to make new accounts lol?

 

[Kotobiki]

I mean yea... If you paint it like THIS, ANYTHING she does makes sense to her character. She could order Pineapple on her pizza, take a bit and spit it out because she hates Pineapple on Pizza. It'd make sense! She could Wear a MAGA hat to the polls as she's voting for Biden. She could do any amount of contradictions and according to how you describe her, it'd make sense.
If she's a schizo, then everything makes sense 100%.

She's a, lets say "free spirit" before the game starts. Becomes completely faithful on a dime after she meets MC. Has 1 drink, becomes a "free spirit" Again. Stops for a few weeks to be faithful to MC ...again. Has 1 drink, goes back to being a "free spirit". She could have had sex with Tyrone when she was single but waited until she got into a relationship to do so. Consistently inconsistent. BUT if you paint her as a character that just does anything they what, changing her mind on a whim you can excuse any of those inconsistencies as "just Ariana being Ariana!".
It also gives the Dev a "Get out of jail free card" to Do anything he wants with the character free of any critique from supporters. Any in game decision she makes that seems odd will be seen as "Just Ari being Ari!" you know how she is! She can change on a dime, that liberal, horny, emotional girl!

Today on things that never happened: Most your response.
I'll put the hyperboles aside, and answer the coherent parts, for starters Ariana has never been faithful on a dime - she consistently showed herself flirtatious and with potential for cheating in even Vanilla route. If anything, Vanilla route having a NTR feel was an active complaint several times here. She also had "semi" cheated on MC before story started if you payed attention to the dialogues, she just has never gone all the way and had sex with anyone else while dating him. So yes, her character is literally exact same across all routes, ergo her doubting on what decisions to take constantly across the time, thus her psychology/characterization is consistent.


Ariana's consistent traits are:
- She is promiscuous
- She wants to be faithful to improve as a person and because she legitimately likes MC (which creates the constant mental doubts no matter which path shes on, cus a horndog doesn't stop being one just cus she says "Well, I have decided to never cheat from now on!")
- She is one to put up a facade to hide her own insecurities, hence why things like her jealousy are usually managed in such a toxic fashion
- "Rules for thee but not for me!", she's used to having her way so she will stretch and bend if she can get away it, this is why she's the pants in the relation because she's basically the one that lays the law in the relation, he's passive while she's proactive

 

[BlasKyau]

Today on things that never happened: Most your response.
I'll ignore the hyperboles aside, and answer the coherent part, for starters Ariana has never been faithful one a dime - she consistently showed herself flirtatious and with potential for cheating in even Vanilla route. If anything, Vanilla route having a NTR feel was an active complaint several times here.

Ok, if it really is as you say and in the vanilla route there is that NTR feeling, I think I would definitely prefer to avoid the game. I was attracted by the fact that I could choose the vanilla route and discard the NTR shortly after starting the game, but if I choose that route it's so that the netorare doesn't appear, not even as a theoretical assumption (even less as a feeling). So that feeling goes against how I like that route to be.

 

[Kotobiki]

I could say the same about the moderators, but if they want to play this game, I have no problem, they just show that if a user is too serious with criticism, they ban him, the level of the forum is low on this level. they are happy.

I mean, IDK what admin tools this forum has, but there are bans that prevent you from making more accounts, unless you pay money for tools to bypass that ofc. So IDK, and frankly don't care, just funny seeing you pressed. On that note, not reading anything else you wrote since you've shown yourself consistent incapable of holding a coherent discussion so don't waste your time lol.

 

[Kotobiki]

Ok, if it really is as you say and in the vanilla route there is that NTR feeling, I think I would definitely prefer to avoid the game. I was attracted by the fact that I could choose the vanilla route and discard the NTR shortly after starting the game, but if I choose that route it's so that the netorare doesn't appear, not even as a theoretical assumption (even less as a feeling). So that feeling goes against how I like that route to be.

The first choices give a NTR vibe cus FMC is talking with antag in a teasy way so some people thought this meant NTR was happening behind MCs back even if it wasn't shown. That's not the case, there's no NTR in that route, but it did give those vibes to some people. So I was pointing out how Ariana always being capable of such is a consistent trait, it's not that she'd a different character per route or event, its simply that one takes decisions based on what her character is capable of.

 

[Sieglinnde]

Ok, if it really is as you say and in the vanilla route there is that NTR feeling, I think I would definitely prefer to avoid the game. I was attracted by the fact that I could choose the vanilla route and discard the NTR shortly after starting the game, but if I choose that route it's so that the netorare doesn't appear, not even as a theoretical assumption (even less as a feeling). So that feeling goes against how I like that route to be.

When I first started the vanilla route, I had some NTR “traces” that I had not noticed, but many people brought it to my attention, and I removed those things or any NTR traces in the vanilla route... That's why it's called Vanilla, there is 0 NTR there, Ariana was never unfaithful, or anything like that

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[BlasKyau]

When I first started the vanilla route, I had some NTR “traces” that I had not noticed, but many people brought it to my attention, and I removed those things or any NTR traces in the vanilla route... That's why it's called Vanilla, there is 0 NTR there, Ariana was never unfaithful, or anything like that

Ok, I haven't started, I've simply responded to what they just commented, so I'm glad to know that none of that exists.

 

[Kotobiki]

When I first started the vanilla route, I had some NTR “traces” that I had not noticed, but many people brought it to my attention, and I removed those things or any NTR traces in the vanilla route... That's why it's called Vanilla, there is 0 NTR there, Ariana was never unfaithful, or anything like that

You rewrote that for the Vanilla fans? Well that explains why some people might have perception that her character changes on a whim, back when I started playing it, it was pretty easy to see that Arianas character was p much the same no matter the route and she just was a bit firmer in her decision to be faithful even if flirty thoughts crossed her mind every now and then.

 

[iamvenom_t]

Hello.


Unfortunately, I can't agree with that. It would destroy the meaning of Sieglinnde participating here.

If a paid supporter would ask him/her to add harem, how is he/she supposed to react? I've often read on other threads that listening too much to Patrons was having a negative effect on the game itself.

We can't take comments only when they are positive. We can't take negative ones at heart either. A dev should use them to make his game better.

I already said it before but I can't help him/her anymore since I stopped playing after he/she switched from real porn to 3dcg, though I continued reading the thread because what most contributors write is interesting, with some exceptions, and I just participate when it's something more generic like this.

Your PS is wonderfully said but doesn't match our societies, more and more individualistic.

Good continuation.

1. "Unfortunately, I can't agree with that. It would destroy the meaning of Sieglinnde participating here." Yea and I advised him against doing so, as the very first sentence of my post would suggest.

2. "If a paid supporter would ask him/her to add harem, how is he/she supposed to react? I've often read on other threads that listening too much to Patrons was having a negative effect on the game itself." Absolutely with you on that cuz it's objectively true, hence why I wrote "as the creator you shouldn't 100% cater to what they ask you to do. Most, if not all should be whatever tf you want!"

3. "We can't take comments only when they are positive. We can't take negative ones at heart either. A dev should use them to make his game better." Wise words, but unfortunately very unrealistic, as most of us (including game devs) are emotional beings and not complete psychopaths who don't feel nothing.

4. "I already said it before but I can't help him/her anymore since I stopped playing after he/she switched from real porn to 3dcg, though I continued reading the thread because what most contributors write is interesting, with some exceptions, and I just participate when it's something more generic like this." I'm more interested in human behavior than the games themselves, so can't comment on that, but I'm sure he's doing his best.

5. "Your PS is wonderfully said but doesn't match our societies, more and more individualistic." You disagree? Don't you think the world's more chaotic right now than it has been in the last 79 years? I'm not sure about any anti-politics rule of the forum, maybe it's best that we just disagree rather than go deeper into it?

 

[BlasKyau]

I plan to add those things to the existing vanilla route... Right now most of the content is just with your main love interest

Ok, I was going to ask if the game had multiple LIs and if the vanilla route could have a harem ending. I like to know that yes.

 

[OG Log5000%]

Hello everyone is the Ntr in this game are avoidable i'd like to know before playing it

 

[Griev]

You rewrote that for the Vanilla fans? Well that explains why some people might have perception that her character changes on a whim, back when I started playing it, it was pretty easy to see that Arianas character was p much the same no matter the route and she just was a bit firmer in her decision to be faithful even if flirty thoughts crossed her mind every now and then.

Nah she doesn't flirt in the Vanilla route. It's wholesome and cute AF. It's GREAT even! They come off as a believable couple. Ari gets jealous and MC calms her with kind words and kisses. Unfortunately we've been stuck on a cliff hanger of Ariana seeing MC trip and fall on top of Queen, who she's extremely jealous of btw, for several updates. Like 4-5 months.

 

[Sieglinnde]

Hello everyone is the Ntr in this game are avoidable i'd like to know before playing it

It is, but is mainly NTR focused... There is a completely vanilla route without any kind of NTR, and with much content, but there is more NTR content than "vanilla only" content

 

[OG Log5000%]

Nah she doesn't flirt in the Vanilla route. It's wholesome and cute AF. It's GREAT even! They come off as a believable couple. Ari gets jealous and MC calms her with kind words and kisses. Unfortunately we've been stuck on a cliff hanger of Ariana seeing MC trip and fall on top of Queen, who she's extremely jealous of btw, for several updates. Like 4-5 months.

Hello broh can you tell me how to get in the vanilla path becaus no matter what choice i made she is very flirty so please can you give me an advise in the choice of the begenning in the game