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I'm a bit confused. I started playing because the tags said "NTR (avoidable)", but reading the comments it sounds like this happens no matter what? Is that the case? I just finished the night of Day 9, but can't play again for a bit. If I'm walking into *un*-avoidable NTR when I do then that's going to suck.
It depends on your actions. If you get the choice it's very clearly marked as NTR. There's also another flashback scene with the LI's boyfriend. So, if you felt NTR'd by that then you're going to feel that way again.
 

girlfairdev

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Don't like it either, but in this case it's (at least so far) an incident, not the theme of the game. MC is the biggest NTR culprit in this game if you look at it with honest eyes.
 

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Phew! That's good to hear! And the flashback of her boyfriend I could deal with, because it's just a flashback. I can understand the fun idea of "no one's ever touched her but me!", but there's already enough stretch of the imagination going on. Adding a young lady that hot that is still a virgin would just be yet another stretch XD.

I figured with the way the black guy was being presented that there was going to at least be an NTR *option* forthcoming. But I'm glad that (so far) she at least wasn't having inner monologues where she's creaming her panties at the mere sight of him no matter what route you're on, like some games would have done. This game isn't top-shelf stuff imo, but I have enjoyed what I've played of it so far, and hope it gets continued a good ways.
 

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Is version Day11-1.2 different than version Day11-1.1? That's the last i played and i don't know if i should download now Day11-1.2. Is there any new content in it compared to Day11-1.1 or just some bug fixes?

The OP says nothing about Day11-1.2...
 

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Don't get me wrong - I don't like NTR as a fetish either. But somehow it is funny how some people first make quite obvious bad choices and then start to cry "NTR! NTR!".
Be good and faithful to your girl and nothing will happen that anybody could call "NTR". But if you decide to neglect her and instead fuck around, please be so honest that it was your decision that makes the MC a "NTR culprit" and look her for love in several wrong places! ;)
 

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Whether you agree or disagree with the NTR tag, Season 2 sets you up as a Beta while Season 1 set you up as an Alpha.

The creator makes a clear decision to bump the MC from Alpha, Season 1, to Beta, Season 2. Check out Conscientious Objector's April 30 post where he shows the MC's equipment, Season 1 to Season 2 comparison. The creator clearly reduced the MC's equipment while giving the Captain a horse d..k.

Why make this change without intending to threaten the MC's relationship with his daughter, unless the creator is so lazy that he does not even pay attention to this anymore...

Those pictures say it all - no respect for what happened during the first season and intentionally bumping Dad from Alpha to Beta.

This feels like a set up for NTR but others may think that an older guy with smaller equipment is the automatic Alpha and more likely to get the girl than a younger guy with a horse d..k, the supposed Beta.

I'm pretty sure that the porn trope does not work this way...
 

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Whether you agree or disagree with the NTR tag, Season 2 sets you up as a Beta while Season 1 set you up as an Alpha.

The creator makes a clear decision to bump the MC from Alpha, Season 1, to Beta, Season 2. Check out Conscientious Objector's April 30 post where he shows the MC's equipment, Season 1 to Season 2 comparison. The creator clearly reduced the MC's equipment while giving the Captain a horse d..k.

Why make this change without intending to threaten the MC's relationship with his daughter, unless the creator is so lazy that he does not even pay attention to this anymore...

Those pictures say it all - no respect for what happened during the first season and intentionally bumping Dad from Alpha to Beta.

This feels like a set up for NTR but others may think that an older guy with smaller equipment is the automatic Alpha and more likely to get the girl than a younger guy with a horse d..k, the supposed Beta.

I'm pretty sure that the porn trope does not work this way...
Possible, but I am not really convinced - at least I do not impute the same determination about this to the dev with the same certainty. If he really wanted the MC to become the Beta, then why is there are path, where the girl did not fuck the captain, but the MC? I myself did not know about the possibility of a scene with the girl and the captain until I read about it here. So my impression is, that the MC becoming the Beta is only one story option, maybe some kind of punishment for making the wrong choices (or maybe a reward for the right choices for those, who like being the Beta), but not an unavoidable fate for this second chapter. But we will see, what the future will bring.
 
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Possible, but I am not really convinced - at least I do not impute the same determination about this to the dev with the same certainty. If he really wanted the MC to become the Beta, then why is there are path, where the girl did not fuck the captain, but the MC? I myself did not know about the possibility of a scene with the girl and the captain until I read about it here. So my impression is, that the MC becoming the Beta is only one story option, maybe some kind of punishment for making the wrong choices (or maybe a reward for the right choices for those, who like being the Beta), but not an unavoidable fate for this second chapter. But we will see, what the future will bring.
Even if she doesn't fuck the captain, the MC instantly thinks what a big strong man he is because he has a firm handshake... I mean who the fuck actually thinks something like that when he meets a random dude for the very first time? Plus the way the MC reacts in general. Take the scene where Desmond won't let him get a blowjob from one of his sluts (I won't even try to remember her name) because he finished banging the other one as an example. As soon as he raises his voice the MC goes "timid little boy" mode. Now add to that how easily the other guy can get (literally seconds after he shows up) what we had to wait for, for a couple of years and the "shrinkage" some people mentioned, so that the rival has a bigger dick! Plus after the first release of season two, all the sex scenes are with other guys and the MC got some groping and that's only if you didn't get the sex scene at the very start... There's a very obvious change of "direction" between seasons one and two. Don't get me wrong, I didn't expect the MC to whip his cock out and start banging all the women on the yacht (I personally don't care for Desmond's whores anyway), but there's a difference between being cautious and acting like a little bitch...

If I hadn't spent so much time on this game (especially after having to replay it from the start so many times, with the broken saves, the minor revamps etc.) I would have probably given up by now. At this point it's mostly curiosity that keeps me around. To see if it will ever have an actual ending and how much sense it will make.
 

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Don't get me wrong - I don't like NTR as a fetish either. But somehow it is funny how some people first make quite obvious bad choices and then start to cry "NTR! NTR!".
Be good and faithful to your girl and nothing will happen that anybody could call "NTR". But if you decide to neglect her and instead fuck around, please be so honest that it was your decision that makes the MC a "NTR culprit" and look her for love in several wrong places! ;)
It's because it came along after two years of development if not more and hasn't been stated by the dev that the story will go in such a way. Years of just trying and trying get with the daughter, and finally getting... 1 scene. Hell, it's not even that it's optional, don't want it, don't watch it, BUT it will take away from the development time and be seen by many as a useless waste of time and content
 
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Possible, but I am not really convinced - at least I do not impute the same determination about this to the dev with the same certainty. If he really wanted the MC to become the Beta, then why is there are path, where the girl did not fuck the captain, but the MC? I myself did not know about the possibility of a scene with the girl and the captain until I read about it here. So my impression is, that the MC becoming the Beta is only one story option, maybe some kind of punishment for making the wrong choices (or maybe a reward for the right choices for those, who like being the Beta), but not an unavoidable fate for this second chapter. But we will see, what the future will bring.
It's not just the obvious stuff like shrinking the MC's dick. You can see it in the dialogue and the inner monologue for both the MC and the daughter. It is all geared towards that now. The way the characters think, and talk, and behave is with NTR in mind. And that is not at all how the game was for the first season. He abandoned the project that created his brand and gained him the support of a lot of patrons, and left it to creators who completely changed the essence of the game. To me that is the dev giving a huge middle finger to all the supporters who helped him get to where he is today.
 

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It's not just the obvious stuff like shrinking the MC's dick. You can see it in the dialogue and the inner monologue for both the MC and the daughter. It is all geared towards that now. The way the characters think, and talk, and behave is with NTR in mind. And that is not at all how the game was for the first season. He abandoned the project that created his brand and gained him the support of a lot of patrons, and left it to creators who completely changed the essence of the game. To me that is the dev giving a huge middle finger to all the supporters who helped him get to where he is today.
Somehow I hope you are wrong...
 

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Welp...off to the ignore pile this goes....
I went through both this and the new games threads and it seems Dev is turning both games into NTR/Voyuer/Cuck fests all the while saying they aren't or its for the plot... After force feeding the NTR/Voyuer narrative into Red Falls in almost every update after saying no more he nerfs the MC's tool in this game and turns the personality from Alpha to Beta while throwing in "Avoidable" NTR as a plot point.... :WaitWhat:

Writing is on the walls fellas, if you dont like NTR then best to ignore this one and Red Falls cause if not you are going to get it force fed to you in both games.... to help the plot....:p
 
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Welp...off to the ignore pile this goes....
I went through both this and the new games threads and it seems Dev is turning both games into NTR/Voyuer/Cuck fests all the while saying they aren't or its for the plot... After force feeding the NTR/Voyuer narrative into Red Falls in almost every update after saying no more he nerfs the MC's tool in this game and turns the personality from Alpha to Beta while throwing in "Avoidable" NTR as a plot point.... :WaitWhat:

Writing is on the walls fellas, if you dont like NTR then best to ignore this one and Red Falls cause if not you are going to get it force fed to you in both games.... to help the plot....:p
Dev is turning both games into NTR/Voyuer/Cuck
After force feeding the NTR/Voyuer narrative into Red Falls

So at least in the case of Red Falls, that was the plan from the start.
 
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