Cameo

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Not sure if this is a bug or smth, but weight lifting minigame isnt responding to any key for me
EDIT: okay, nvm me, switched keyboard language to english and restarted game and it worked
 

invman

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groped chloe in the bathroom, got intimidation at 4 and still cant get the boobjob

can anyone help me? i think its bugged
 

hermesh

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groped chloe in the bathroom, got intimidation at 4 and still cant get the boobjob

can anyone help me? i think its bugged
It works, just tested it for 0.4.3

I'm pretty sure this is what happened:
1) you didn't really grope her before, you just went into the bathroom, went "compliment"->"Legendary" and then didn't even get the option "Why not?" which leads to (actively) touching her breasts.
2) This is the result of an earlier interaction during the evening freeroam: when she was watching TV in the livingroom, you choose to "wake her" up instead of "Close TV"
 

Darkness65

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groped chloe in the bathroom, got intimidation at 4 and still cant get the boobjob

can anyone help me? i think its bugged
Did you choose "Close TV" when Chloe was sleeping on the couch? That, gropping Chloe in the bathroom, and intimidation > 3 are the only requirements.
 

ladguru

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Why devs like so much to disable rollback...? :cautious:
Dunno, really dunno... Sadists? Assholes? Idiots?
It's understandable to block rollback AFTER important choices.
But cockblocking rollback BEFORE choices is so insanely stupid... It's just brain dead.
"Accept"/"Refuse", ey what? What was the question?

I tried to fix a few issues but it's hopeless. The "fuck with rollback" code is scattered all over the sources.
Nothing makes any sense. They just fucked with rollback to fuck up rollback.
 

Bibifoc

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It's understandable to block rollback AFTER important choices.
According to dev's vision maybe but I totally disagree with that. All games should be full rollbackable.
What happens in reality when players want to have choices... They save again and again and load a previous game if they don't like the choice they made. That means it's always possible to reverse a bad a choice but blocking rollback just makes things tedious.
At worst, this thing could be linked to a parameter.
 
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ladguru

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According to dev's vision maybe but I totally disagree with that. All games should be full rollbackable.
What happens in reality when players want to have choices... They save again and again and load a previous game if they don't like the choice they made. That means it's always possible to reverse a bad a choice but blocking rollback just makes things tedious.
At worst, this thing could be linked to a parameter.
I haven't I said I agree. I just said I understand the notion to make certain decisions final.
It can improve the game if it's done right. But this is not so easy.

But here I can roll back and fore through the dialogue until I have to make a decision.
Then I cannot roll back to see what the decision is about?
Meanwhile I ran into several "Accept/Refuse", "Sure/Nope", "Yes/No" decisions.
In the end I spend a lot of time trying to find the accompanying dialogue in the sources to figure out what I was about to accept or refuse.
So I decided to end this experiment. Delete? Yes! What was the question? Dunno. Cannot rollback.
 

Bibifoc

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I haven't I said I agree. I just said I understand the notion to make certain decisions final.
It can improve the game if it's done right. But this is not so easy.

But here I can roll back and fore through the dialogue until I have to make a decision.
Then I cannot roll back to see what the decision is about?
Meanwhile I ran into several "Accept/Refuse", "Sure/Nope", "Yes/No" decisions.
In the end I spend a lot of time trying to find the accompanying dialogue in the sources to figure out what I was about to accept or refuse.
So I decided to end this experiment. Delete? Yes! What was the question? Dunno. Cannot rollback.
I know, I know, I was just ranting against the developers. :whistle:
I got the info from the dev that rollback are used only because of problems in code. They intend to improve that so they are forgiven :p
 

ladguru

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I know, I know, I was just ranting against the developers. :whistle:
I got the info from the dev that rollback are used only because of problems in code. They intend to improve that so they are forgiven :p
Rly?
I haven't seen anything in the code that would demand such measures. It's just straight forward VN code.
But roll back fuckup is splattered all over the source. Have fun mopping up this mess.
 

Bibifoc

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Rly?
I haven't seen anything in the code that would demand such measures. It's just straight forward VN code.
But roll back fuckup is splattered all over the source. Have fun mopping up this mess.
Yes, he considers they made bad decision in the beginning. It seems that the game will have a big revamp of the interface.
 

ladguru

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Yes, he considers they made bad decision in the beginning. It seems that the game will have a big revamp of the interface.
Maybe I give it another try in a couple of months'...
Recently I've seen a few game using the same framework. All of them looked awesome at the start but sucked big time when you tried to play them. None of them survived more than 5 minutes.
If the framework is the reason for the rollback issues they have to start all over... good luck.
 
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I can't find the Red Book n°28 (classroom 2nd floor). I had easily the one under the red folder (n°29) but not the other collectible in the room. If someone can help me with this (maybe I've unlocked it without having the animationn it can be another possibiliy).
 

ptahn

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I believe I played this game when it first came out. It seems to me that some changes have been made to the game since I first played it. As I recall, when I originally got to the scene with Lauren and the kids in the bathroom, I had the definite impression that something sexual happened. When I played it this time, I did not have that impression. It seems like Lauren's character has been drastically changed. In the prologue, she answers the door with her nipples showing even though MC tries to stop her. When Lauren talks to Billy, he mentions that something happened between Lauren and a student before the incident with the two guys in the bathroom. Lauren denies that anything happened with the two kids but does not deny the previous incident. Even in her denial she throws in a "no one can prove anything." After the prologue, she seemed much less "slutty." I believe that most players do not want Mom to be a slut especially in an incest game. Am I imagining it, or was there a shift in her character possibly due to player comments?

In playing the prologue, I saw a number of events that I thought might turn some players off. Ron seeing Iris topless, Mom laying topless next to Billy, Phil watching Karen and MC together, having to give MC's LI's panties to Dave, etc. Too many dudes involved in the "sexual" events. Chapter One seemed to tone down the other guy scenes. Anyone else have the same impression?
 

hermesh

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When you go for just one girl or woman the dialoge on others goes very weird, they respond on things i haven't done.
For some reason i never met sylvia and yet i get a dialoge with a guy at school(son of a autodealer?) about her.
Iirc the son of the autodealer only can be interacted with if you met Sylvia first (otherwise you cannot even click on him). She is the girl "guarding" the blue door with Rose behind...
 
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hermesh

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In playing the prologue, I saw a number of events that I thought might turn some players off. Ron seeing Iris topless, Mom laying topless next to Billy, Phil watching Karen and MC together, having to give MC's LI's panties to Dave, etc. Too many dudes involved in the "sexual" events. Chapter One seemed to tone down the other guy scenes. Anyone else have the same impression?
Lauren lying in bed with her husband is normal, the MC spying on her is the transgression (player choice, easily avoided). MC gets blackmailed by Dave & doesn't like the panty deal at all - in fact does everything he can to get out of it & soon has the chance to kill Dave for blackmailing him. Ron and MC walking in on topless Iris happens at a time when there is no sexual relationship with MC (and Iris is shocked, not acting seductive towards MC or Ron). Maybe your perception is modified since you already played the game before, so you view girls in the Prologue at LIs when they are definitely not (yet) seen as such by the MC.

After the prologue, when the girls slowly turn into LIs, the dad is divorced & away, the relationship with Ron is stained by the end-of-prologue event (so he doesn't show up at MCs home anymore) and Dave is dead with the MC a (possible) responsible party. Even in the relationship with Karen - which started out with her husband calling the shots - said husband is no longer part of their next encounter(s).

Long story short, as soon as you get past the prologue and the MC starts to think about them as LIs, there is no more competition
 
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