yoyomistro

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Hey man, to be honest I'm pretty tired of thinking about how to make the most realistic way the story should unfold. Even when I'm walking my dog, I'm thinking about it, it's becoming obsessive.

I'll never make everyone happy, I've just reduced the grind and now someone's telling me it feels too rushed.
The previous version, that same guy told me it was too grindy.

Look at the guy's review who rated 3/5, we barely talked about netori and he's making a whole review about it, he's talking about how grindy the game is when you can raise 3 influence points per day with certain characters while 4 are required to unlock the next scene. For the most grindy one, you're repeating a cycle 3 times maximum, so this is plain bullshit.

Therefore, I'll just make the game as it is supposed to be, a porn game.

I know you're just giving your feedback, but I felt the need to write that paragraph, so I can quote it everytime someone tells me an event wouldn't happen like this in real life.
I don't want to sound rude, but English not being my native langugage, it's coming out of my head as I can express it.
This forum is full of dudes who think they're the only person on earth. You should ignore most advice that's not about anything technical/QoL. Also the review complaining about Netori should probably be reported for removal anyway, if it breaks review rules. I'll take a look at it. Haven't played the newest version yet but I'll probably get to it today. Like you said, focus on making a porn game that's interesting and well-designed. That's what the average person who won't bother posting cares about.

For everyone posting about their personal fetish preferences, there are 10-20 people who won't post at all who only care if the game looks and feels good. If you push yourself to make the highest possible quality game you can, they'll get hooked on it and will never say a word lol. Of course you should be looking for feedback, but you have to learn that a lot of what's being said on here needs to be filtered out instantly.

EDIT: Looks like that review was probably already removed.
 

malaac2025

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Audio programming is completely and utterly broken. Music controls everything and adjusting it won't adjust volume

Anyone familiar with Renpy and how to separate the music channel to different tracks help developer with how to fix? This problem typically happens from what I understand is all sound is directed to music channel and if your using HDMI out it will all be on same channel.
 
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malaac2025

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0.4.2 is bugged I did a brand new fresh play through and completed all but Anna wine event at her bedroom. I can click on it but nothing happens.

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Vinkawa

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Audio programming is completely and utterly broken. Music controls everything and adjusting it won't adjust volume it's either on or off I had to use the volume mixer to turn game down. How does someone totally break audio in a simple Renpy game?
Music does not control everything, it only controls random music backgrounds during day and night. Sound effects like cum,moanings, door, etc.. are managed by the sound slider, so what problem are you facing ?

0.4.2 is bugged I did a brand new fresh play through and completed all but Anna wine event at her bedroom. I can click on it but nothing happens.

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It seems that this happens when you buy a set of bottles then reload the game, which modifies the ID of the item because the item changed its name. Good catch, I fixed it for v0.5
 
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sanshisan

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This forum is full of dudes who think they're the only person on earth. You should ignore most advice that's not about anything technical/QoL. Also the review complaining about Netori should probably be reported for removal anyway, if it breaks review rules. I'll take a look at it. Haven't played the newest version yet but I'll probably get to it today. Like you said, focus on making a porn game that's interesting and well-designed. That's what the average person who won't bother posting cares about.

For everyone posting about their personal fetish preferences, there are 10-20 people who won't post at all who only care if the game looks and feels good. If you push yourself to make the highest possible quality game you can, they'll get hooked on it and will never say a word lol. Of course you should be looking for feedback, but you have to learn that a lot of what's being said on here needs to be filtered out instantly.

EDIT: Looks like that review was probably already removed.
I hope you're aware how ironic, awful and gross your post is. Regressive thoughts like yours is why people make patreons which get updated once every two months in the first place, so good job protecting them instead of this developer. And obviously you're right. If the premise of the game is decent it will also attract paypigs to the game in the first few months, which then causes developers to enter in a state where the narcissism takes over which is the cause of all these black sheep that the developer pointed towards as well. Obviously in this case, Vin tries to avoid this through hard work alone. This game essentially is a proof of concept trying to make a quality and quantitaively satisfying game within 150 days over the course of its inception. If anything, paypigs and 100k USD per month would most likely mean more content and faster or more stable release circles while also catering of what people like and want or otherwise Vin would betray their own initial vision and just become like another black sheep. The reason why this game is highly rated is that the developer tries to have both quality and enough and varied content while focusing on their own work ethic, which then reflects the quality of the game. We will see how this goes but i'm confident they can pull it off without becoming just like the others.

Honestly, you should take your time and read every comment thoughtfully if you can. Most does seem to be very valueable for the developer. And honstly, you treating them like a child telling them what to like you want to do. Its insane to me, the developer has 8 years of development expertise, so they're obviously aware what to look for. In my opinion, given what Vin said and what others say all feedback, no matter how much infighting has happened, can have its value and quality and may add towards the general vision of the project. But only people with a keen eye, development experience and actual vision and drive can be aware of this. The others just tell the developer to ignore every post and only look for feedback that entitled users want while threating the guy who actually works on the project like they're a child. So good job there bud
 
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Vinkawa

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I hope you're aware how ironic, awful and gross your post is. Regressive thoughts like yours is why people make patreons which get updated once every two months in the first place, so good job protecting them instead of this developer. And obviously you're right. If the premise of the game is decent it will also attract paypigs to the game in the first few months, which then causes developers to enter in a state where the narcissism takes over which is the cause of all these black sheep that the developer pointed towards as well. Obviously in this case, Vin tries to avoid this through hard work alone. This game essentially is a proof of concept trying to make a quality and quantitaively satisfying game within 150 days over the course of its inception. If anything, paypigs and 100k USD per month would most likely mean more content and faster or more stable release circles while also catering of what people like and want or otherwise Vin would betray their own initial vision and just become like another black sheep. The reason why this game is highly rated is that the developer tries to have both quality and enough and varied content while focusing on their own work ethic, which then reflects the quality of the game. We will see how this goes but i'm confident they can pull it off without becoming just like the others.

Honestly, you should take your time and read every comment thoughtfully if you can. Most does seem to be very valueable for the developer. And honstly, you treating them like a child telling them what to like you want to do. Its insane to me, the developer has 8 years of development expertise, so they're obviously aware what to look for. In my opinion, given what Vin said and what others say all feedback, no matter how much infighting has happened, can have its value and quality and may add towards the general vision of the project. But only people with a keen eye, development experience and actual vision and drive can be aware of this. The others just tell the developer to ignore every post and only look for feedback that entitled users want while threating the guy who actually works on the project like they're a child. So good job there bud
I don't know if his message was directed to the type of guys you are defining, who indeed are very valuable persons since my v0.2, v0.3 and even v0.4 changelogs contain modifications that these guys requested in the game's thread, for example being able to name the catgirl, modifying the way to open the navigation, adding grope scenes for Anna so it does not feel too rushed, etc...
All these changes came from requests you can find in this thread.
They helped me improve the game in a fast pace and I can't thank them enough.
Your response was very well constructed and I liked that you gave recognition to those who could be confused with yoyomistro message.

On the other hand, he has a fair point. You have guys coming here on a daily basis, watching every single of my actions to find the slightest mistake to sabotage the project, because there was one day when I didn't give in their demands. Giving credit to the guy who created Mathilde's model is one of them, for example.

So I'll "take advantage" of your message to send one to these guys :

- Selling Koikatsu cards is illegal and is breaking Koikatsu's terms of service, which means that when you share a character card, everyone can simply use it and does not owe you anything. That's why they play the victims and take the moral high ground everytime they see a model they recognize in any Koikatsu game, that's what we call cognitive dissonance, as a well-known member stated it in the past.
- I did credit him in the v0.3 but at the same time I got threatened by private message from his community before they could even see the credits, which just made me decide not to credit the guy. That's how you deal with these people.
- Thousands of successful Renpy games are made with DAZ 3D, and no one has ever given credit to the creator of the Genesis 8, 8.1 and 9 models (even older genesis, actually), and I don't see any Koikatsu devs giving credit to the authors of their characters neither, as generic as they could look. But yeah my models look cool so they decided that I should be the only one on this platform to give credit to people.

I know that properly creditting the authors is important, but this does not apply when the market is illegal or when you paid for an asset allowing redistribution. You would think these guys took the time to inform themselves, but there is no legal background for what they're fighting for. Congratulations guys, your time was very well spent.

As Egris stated and got laughed at in reaction by the guy himself, a guy spent his most precious time of the day to write the most structured review he could make to shit on my game. It's a private account made in 2022 who posted 2 messages in two years, and it's preventing any incoming private message (idk if he blocked me or if that's a global feature), that's obviously a mad guy using a backup account.

It's 2024 and these people still think porn game devs should be Ernest Hemingway's descendants in terms of story and gameplay. Also he's mad that some of my animations are inspired by others, and think that I'm not putting work on my game, without knowing that when a male model is replaced and the dick is twice bigger, I have to change most keyframes and modify bones positions and rotations, then create a logical set of keyframes to make the animation loop, which basically make me redo the whole thing and is taking me hours for some scenes, as I stated more accurately in a post that people can find in a previous page.

According to him that's an easy task, but surprisingly no one ever took the time to do what I'm doing (randomly download any Koikatsu game and you'll find the same pre-built animations delievered with the engine), I let you guys draw your own conclusion.

I don't really know if yoyomistro was talking about these guys, but his first statement was very correct. There really are dudes who think they're the only person on earth. I can tell you that over time, you'll see 1/5 or 2/5 reviews popping up using the same argumentation axis. Most of them didn't even download the game, they're just here to shit on the project for the examples I mentionned above.

I'll keep separating their fake bad reviews with fair ones which give me elements I can work on, and I know they're reading me and preparing another shit fake review in response to this post, or because I said no to NTR or to credit a guy exploiting an illegal market.

They can call as many friends as they want to spam bad reviews on my game, they're just a bunch of haters.
 
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sanshisan

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Anticipating v0.5 eagerly. On my end, nothing more needs to be said.

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I see :WeSmart:some people like that are easily filtered through my senses and out of my bumhole so I never noticed people can be like this. I was mostly thinking about some infighting people and things like that. I agree with your assessment.

I like to think everyone using this forum has a wineglass ready but a man can dream.
 
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yoyomistro

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I hope you're aware how ironic, awful and gross your post is. Regressive thoughts like yours is why people make patreons which get updated once every two months in the first place, so good job protecting them instead of this developer. And obviously you're right. If the premise of the game is decent it will also attract paypigs to the game in the first few months, which then causes developers to enter in a state where the narcissism takes over which is the cause of all these black sheep that the developer pointed towards as well. Obviously in this case, Vin tries to avoid this through hard work alone. This game essentially is a proof of concept trying to make a quality and quantitaively satisfying game within 150 days over the course of its inception. If anything, paypigs and 100k USD per month would most likely mean more content and faster or more stable release circles while also catering of what people like and want or otherwise Vin would betray their own initial vision and just become like another black sheep. The reason why this game is highly rated is that the developer tries to have both quality and enough and varied content while focusing on their own work ethic, which then reflects the quality of the game. We will see how this goes but i'm confident they can pull it off without becoming just like the others.

Honestly, you should take your time and read every comment thoughtfully if you can. Most does seem to be very valueable for the developer. And honstly, you treating them like a child telling them what to like you want to do. Its insane to me, the developer has 8 years of development expertise, so they're obviously aware what to look for. In my opinion, given what Vin said and what others say all feedback, no matter how much infighting has happened, can have its value and quality and may add towards the general vision of the project. But only people with a keen eye, development experience and actual vision and drive can be aware of this. The others just tell the developer to ignore every post and only look for feedback that entitled users want while threating the guy who actually works on the project like they're a child. So good job there bud
You're completely misunderstanding what I wrote. I and many other people have been on here providing useful feedback to Vinkawa based on the type of game he wants to make. Then there are other who are only here to harass him because he's not reading their minds and making the game to follow their exact fetish preferences. Not sure how you got what you did from my text. I guess you're assuming I mean anyone who references any sort of preference whatsoever. If you read the thread, you'd clearly be able to distinguish between the type of people I'm referencing and everyone else here.
 
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Great game personally love it hope dev takes heart and ignores haters ,love the game for netori planned and harem specifically, good luck dev and I hope you take care of yourself will be rooting for you see you in next update and keep it up.......
 
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Vinkawa

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man....despite that hate...keep up the good work. this game is quickly shaping to be one of if not my favorite sandbox
Great game personally love it hope dev takes heart and ignores haters ,love the game for netori planned and harem specifically, good luck dev and I hope you take care of yourself will be rooting for you see you in next update and keep it up.......
Thanks a lot, guys

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sanshisan

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0.5 is excellent btw and has some of the best scenes but heres my obligatory "needs more Laura". Hope all characters get fleshed out but I'm sure you know the trap that comes with adding more characters at random. Some games never see progress because of that problem many devs have by adding character over character:FacePalm:.

From my standpoint, 0.5 is rather stable too, very good.

BTW, a issue I've noticed is back when you told on the forum that you told me and others that in the games credits you gave the the links to the models you've used but I haven't found the textfile. Theres only one credits button and its contents are almost empty. So I thought that perhaps you posted the credits as a seperate text somewhere but I haven't found the file.

Maybe I was missing something here or maybe you forgot, just want to make sure and wanted to tell you.
 
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Vinkawa

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only i have problem and dont see location only after some time, like after minute etc
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Hey man, I don't understand the problem, the locations appear when you put your cursor at the bottom of the screen, is this what you talked about ?

0.5 is excellent btw and has some of the best scenes but heres my obligatory "needs more Laura". Hope all characters get fleshed out but I'm sure you know the trap that comes with adding more characters at random. Some games never see progress because of that problem many devs have by adding character over character:FacePalm:.

From my standpoint, 0.5 is rather stable too, very good.

BTW, a issue I've noticed is back when you told on the forum that you told me and others that in the games credits you gave the the links to the models you've used but I haven't found the textfile. Theres only one credits button and its contents are almost empty. So I thought that perhaps you posted the credits as a seperate text somewhere but I haven't found the file.

Maybe I was missing something here or maybe you forgot, just want to make sure and wanted to tell you.
Hey man, "needs more Laura" come on man I've just given her exactly a titjob and an assjob as requested, I can't give her 4 scenes per update or another character would lose content :KEK:

As for the credit, I might have not expressed myself properly, I wanted to say I started giving credits in the v0.3 but I got threatened at the same time in private message so I removed it before releasing the v0.3 because I didn't like their attitude, I think that's how we should deal with these people. :cry:
 
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sanshisan

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A nice comment
I may be a retard, but i'm not a retard that demands stuff.

Don't take me too seriously :LUL: of course Laura has two really great scenes in 0.5 which probably the best ones out of them all :BootyTime:. You're outdoing yourself, but that doesn't stop me asking for more, or rather, my dick does the asking and demands you to obey. Jokes aside, in the same comment I was implying that every character should have a large amount of sex scenes. I am kinda fed up of all the subpar shitty games, while some great hentai games have large amounts of scenes for the handful of characters, who are all flashed out. And since you try to convey the story and personality of the characters through the sex scenes. For instance Laura thinking she is the sadistic bitch but is actually submissive. So the more sex scenes you add, the more fleshed out the characters becomes overall, the hotter and complete the character your're fucking with. So when I repeat the same scenes of the same character in another version, the contexts of all the scenes combined make the game a overall hotter experience. So in my opinion, it doesn't matter when you add more scenes for her as long as you keep fleshing out everything by making great sex scenes for every character equally. Otherwise the sex overall may feel incomplete. It would suck and be really stupid if you would focus on just one character while leaving anyone out, but we both know that this would be a sign of a terrible dev and you ain't terrible chief.

And thanks for actually adding scenes to her in 0.5, you're the best my man :BootyTime: but truth be told I like all the characters. Its just that Laura is the thiccest and her clothes are fucking great. With that said, I would love to see some more bodyworship scenes at some point because she clearly has the largest tits and all, you already implied that this will happen with the whole photography scene or second sexy scene with her or whatever.

One "bug" though, the cock in Lauras final assjob sex scene looks weirdly smaller than in the other sex scenes. Is it just the perspective or are you tinkering with the size depending on the scene? Koikatsus biggest plug for me is that its 3d so you can stay consistent. I would like the reasoning but maybe its just me.

And you where threatened? Why the fuck would anyone do that to you thats so ridiculously stupid for them to harass you. I feel like theres a lot of retards crawling everywhere but you're right, ignoring and reporting them is the best choice. Report them too to the admin or any of the mods, force them to do their fucking job. Do it like I do, don't consider trolls or people harassing you as human beings just as nobody sane would and rightfully so. Since nobody sane would threat anyone for reasons related to a fucking porngame or any other serious thing. Handling a peculiar situation like harrasment is exactly why laws and rules are made for, so everyone can have a sort of productive conversation to some degree. So again, report anything that people do to you to the admin or the mods and get that sorted out.

And just so you know. A good example for a game I consider a decent quality baseline for sex scenes is Chichigami ke no yakata. You can take inspiration out from it for whatever reason or not, especially the perspective. Just stating what i consider of alright quality.
 
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