- Jul 3, 2020
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I enjoy the side characters and the variety they bring. Keep up the great work!
He got a blowjob...Does he ever get to fuck them?
Side characters are essential to pacing (even more so given the episodal development cycle of 99% of Indie AVNs): they allow the developer to explore interactions they cannot with the main love interests, provide comic and other relief, and pick up roles as support actors in the story line.Sex with side-characters(co-workers) is the biggest turn-off in visual novels. Total waste of content. It's like watching porn but 100x more boring.
The thing is that they never look nowhere near as good as the main characters. After a while the daughters get very attractive, and that just makes scenes without them feel like a waste of time. And specifically for incest games: Every non incestuous relationship seems dull and vanilla by comparison(which is not a problem for some I guess) . The same goes for corruption games as well.Side characters are essential to pacing (even more so given the episodal development cycle of 99% of Indie AVNs): they allow the developer to explore interactions they cannot with the main love interests, provide comic and other relief, and pick up roles as support actors in the story line.
They are anything but a waste of content from that perspective. That is, if you're actually interested in the content, and not just skipping between lewds. Which isn't bad, I mean everyone gets to play as they want, but it doesn't make sense dismiss their value if you're skipping the content they add value to.
However, throwing side characters in to just pad content and string players along for another seasons, or service supporters demanding inclusion of a certain fetish without them having a function in the story such as it is, is a waste of content, I'll agree.
Well, that is an interesting point, but the alternative would be to have the MC be intimate with a tenant (ward), roommate or landlady filling the side-part role right off the bat, which I feel kinda erodes the thrill of the illicitness of getting involved with someone with whom the MC has a non-vanilla relationships.(...)And specifically for incest games: Every non incestuous relationship seems dull and vanilla by comparison(which is not a problem for some I guess) . (...)
Some people(like me) are only here for the amazing incestual or corruption based relationships only games can provide. And those are extremely hard to get right. You have done a great job so far with the former.Well, that is an interesting point, but the alternative would be to have the MC be intimate with a tenant (ward), roommate or landlady filling the side-part role right off the bat, which I feel kinda erodes the thrill of the illicitness of getting involved with someone with whom the MC has a non-vanilla relationships.
The contrast of having both vanilla and the other flavor adds to the latter, not subtracts from the first, I personally feel.
But this definitely has something to do with the way people zoom in on certain fetishes to the point it's hard to enjoy anything not related to it, and I wonder if there's some sort of peak-moment in the development of a AVN perv where they're just debased enough to enjoy the heck out of whatever tickles their fancy before it becomes this all-consuming must-have-or-pass thingie. Not judging, mind, just observing.
Side characters serve a very important role in slow-burn, story-driven AVNs. They allow the MC to have sex to satisfy one side of the market while allowing the development with the main LIs to progress at the proper pace.Usually I agree with that: More time and resources spent on side characters less time and resources spent on what really matters. But I'm very happy with the amount of content involving the main female characters we have in every update. So it hasn't been an issue with this game, since we're used with the long wait between updates.
They may not be actively monitoring this thread, but if someone were to report the account to the big P, they would definitely scan the thread for evidence that the developer considers it to be an incest game. NR needs to cover his bases. This is why no developer should endorse a patch as "official."BTW: Patreon can't hear you. I don't know why you call them wards on here.
I approach the term along the lines of "fashion model looks do occur in the real world, but they are statistically rather rare." I see the label as saying "statistically realistic." Especially when you consider body and face types around the world, expecting everyone to have Northern European fashion model looks is a bit unrealistic. I feel it's also a push back from all the harassment that "women who do not match the current western beauty standards," often receive.damn...what a ride....this is honestly...one of the greatest's AVN I ever played...
The character models..uff, it was kinda of a shock to see a VN with non conventionally attractive models, I had my reservations at the beginning but not much later I ended up totally in love with the girls, both their bodies and personalities..I don't like to call them "real people" because conventionally attractive girls are real people too, but is nice to see different body types in a sea of sexy girls, it was super nice and I want to give mad props to the developer for taking that risk with their story because it did nothing but improve the quality of the game.
Of course side characters are important for a long story, they may not be that important in a short story. But that's beyond the point. The point is, in a big production such as a Star Wars movie, or a big company game, there are resources, people and money to be invested in developing each detail of the product, be it, sound effects, soundtrack, props, wardrobe, animations, side characters, etc. without compromising the production deadline.Side characters make alot of sense and claiming they do not is not only ignorant in and of itself it beats the purpose of side characters inside a story.
As i assume everyone knows the original three star war movies i take that as an example to cut out all side characters and present you a clusterfuck of a story that makes no sense...
...The main reason for side charactes is also you get alot of main character development done when using side characters. Like moral behaviour which is showcased in this game.
Sorry for my rant. Didn't have coffee yet.
It is still within the regular updates timespan for this game9 months and no abandoned tag?
There is a weekly update on progress unlike many other games labeled with the "abandoned" tag9 months and no abandoned tag?
No words of mine can add to this. DAMN dude, well said !damn...what a ride....this is honestly...one of the greatest's AVN I ever played...
The character models..uff, it was kinda of a shock to see a VN with non conventionally attractive models, I had my reservations at the beginning but not much later I ended up totally in love with the girls, both their bodies and personalities..I don't like to call them "real people" because conventionally attractive girls are real people too, but is nice to see different body types in a sea of sexy girls, it was super nice and I want to give mad props to the developer for taking that risk with their story because it did nothing but improve the quality of the game.
The technical details...and details is the key word here I've never seen an AVN with such dynamic "camera work", seeing the characters blinking, moving around the screen, zooming in and out in some areas...it was a visual delight and made the characters look not like soulless mannequins but like real human beings...seriously..the attention to detail is insane, seeing little things like movements in the background while the characters are talking help a lot with the immersion and I loved every single tiny detail put into this game even though the bear scene in the background scare the shit out of me. Also mad props for speeding up the development process by reusing character poses from time to time, Im sure that helps a lot to get things running.
The sex scenes...Im usually a fan of the animations when they are well made, but sometimes I feel the developers invest waaaay too much time animating a sex scene when they could be working on something else specially since when Im invested a a AVN I care waaaay more about the story progression than the sex scenes per se... that said, the dirty talk, the healthy amount of frames, all the moving parts and oh my god the climax...seeing Macy reach the climax moving her thighs with the help of her little sister was incredibly hot! it blows out of the water all those developers making 5 second loops of some amazing sex scenes!
The characters...I love all the characters if that wasn't obvious the writing is pretty clever and enjoyable to read there wasn't a single point I wanted to skip the dialog, I even really liked all my interactions with the Coven, since there seems to be a little discourse around those ladies I wanted to throw my 2 cents in... I though these ladies were just some kind of "bitch squad" made just to get in the way of the MC and cause conflict but after we got involved in the first sex scene with one of them (the one with daddy issues) I started to see them as something else...they were all troubled ladies in their own way, and I decide to help them not because they had something I needed, but because it felt right to help them out, teaching the girl with daddy issues that sex doesn't have to involve violence, or helping a fellow parent cope with their sexual needs being unfulfilled...it felt nice to make them happier.... Now Im 1000% sure I don't have a pregnancy fetish but I still had sex with the pregnant lady because before playing this game I was kinda in the position of her husband (mentally I mean), when I saw a pregnant lady I saw a fragile being that must be kept from all harm, but now I notice it was all ignorance for my part, they are still woman, they aren't that fragile, they wont break for having sex and more importantly, they are in a moment of their lives when their self confidence tends to be in a all time low... with the leakings, the constant bladder problems, the weight gain...that's the moment when they must feel super insecure about themselves and ignoring their sexual needs, even if is out of care, can be a hard for them...I can't believe Im saying this but I learned something with this AVN....something I will keep close to my hearth in the future and Im thankful for that.
More than 3 years here and still no understanding of the tag system.9 months and no abandoned tag?
That's definitely a good point, and I'd say as an indie dev, you have to pick your battles. Every now and then you see a new game popping up in the feed with a title screenshot that looks like one of those official portraits from when parliament takes office, and where the dev seems to have tried to account for every 'dere variation, fenotype, and fetish combination imaginable in there. Most seem to fizzle out fast.(...)
If the guy or the small group of guys decides to make the "perfect" game with everything they imagined, it may take forever for them to finish it, and halfway through the game development they may have lost the enthusiasm to do it, and we have another abandoned game.
Yeah, it is a breath of fresh air ain't it? Rare and unusual, One can only hope other creators follow.damn...what a ride....this is honestly...one of the greatest's AVN I ever played...
The character models..uff, it was kinda of a shock to see a VN with non conventionally attractive models, I had my reservations at the beginning but not much later I ended up totally in love with the girls, both their bodies and personalities..I don't like to call them "real people" because conventionally attractive girls are real people too, but is nice to see different body types in a sea of sexy girls, it was super nice and I want to give mad props to the developer for taking that risk with their story because it did nothing but improve the quality of the game.
The technical details...and details is the key word here I've never seen an AVN with such dynamic "camera work", seeing the characters blinking, moving around the screen, zooming in and out in some areas...it was a visual delight and made the characters look not like soulless mannequins but like real human beings...seriously..the attention to detail is insane, seeing little things like movements in the background while the characters are talking help a lot with the immersion and I loved every single tiny detail put into this game even though the bear scene in the background scare the shit out of me. Also mad props for speeding up the development process by reusing character poses from time to time, Im sure that helps a lot to get things running.
The sex scenes...Im usually a fan of the animations when they are well made, but sometimes I feel the developers invest waaaay too much time animating a sex scene when they could be working on something else specially since when Im invested a a AVN I care waaaay more about the story progression than the sex scenes per se... that said, the dirty talk, the healthy amount of frames, all the moving parts and oh my god the climax...seeing Macy reach the climax moving her thighs with the help of her little sister was incredibly hot! it blows out of the water all those developers making 5 second loops of some amazing sex scenes!
The characters...I love all the characters if that wasn't obvious the writing is pretty clever and enjoyable to read there wasn't a single point I wanted to skip the dialog, I even really liked all my interactions with the Coven, since there seems to be a little discourse around those ladies I wanted to throw my 2 cents in... I though these ladies were just some kind of "bitch squad" made just to get in the way of the MC and cause conflict but after we got involved in the first sex scene with one of them (the one with daddy issues) I started to see them as something else...they were all troubled ladies in their own way, and I decide to help them not because they had something I needed, but because it felt right to help them out, teaching the girl with daddy issues that sex doesn't have to involve violence, or helping a fellow parent cope with their sexual needs being unfulfilled...it felt nice to make them happier.... Now Im 1000% sure I don't have a pregnancy fetish but I still had sex with the pregnant lady because before playing this game I was kinda in the position of her husband (mentally I mean), when I saw a pregnant lady I saw a fragile being that must be kept from all harm, but now I notice it was all ignorance for my part, they are still woman, they aren't that fragile, they wont break for having sex and more importantly, they are in a moment of their lives when their self confidence tends to be in a all time low... with the leakings, the constant bladder problems, the weight gain...that's the moment when they must feel super insecure about themselves and ignoring their sexual needs, even if is out of care, can be a hard for them...I can't believe Im saying this but I learned something with this AVN....something I will keep close to my hearth in the future and Im thankful for that.