VN Ren'Py Light of My Life [Ch. 1-7 v1.0.0] [Naughty Road]

[Miðgarðsormr]

Of course side characters are important for a long story, they may not be that important in a short story. But that's beyond the point. The point is, in a big production such as a Star Wars movie, or a big company game, there are resources, people and money to be invested in developing each detail of the product, be it, sound effects, soundtrack, props, wardrobe, animations, side characters, etc. without compromising the production deadline.
It is a quite different story when we're talking about a single guy, a couple of guys project. Each new feature added, soundtrack, voice, animations, side characters, etc. will have a big impact in the product development time. So, things that won't add much to, in this case, the game, shouldn't be added. No need for adding voice, no need for much depth for side characters, they are good for context. The limited time and resources should be focused on the main story.

If the guy or the small group of guys decides to make the "perfect" game with everything they imagined, it may take forever for them to finish it, and halfway through the game development they may have lost the enthusiasm to do it, and we have another abandoned game.

I agree especially when you consider many games on this board that get more and more and more stuff added till the fanbase stops caring anymore as the game has more side characters as the year has days and at that point no one cares about anything anymore. Same with the points you made about voice, soundtrack, animations etc.

However if you can manage to put a handful of people into the story like here it works like a charm as you get more and more pulled into the story and the characters even the side characters work and the player gets attached to them. If we take the game Being a DIK for example this worked well till a certain point. Now the characters are already to much and Dr.PinkCake has kinda his hands full branching out every character and their stories.

Thats the tricky part in writing in general. OFC you wanna add as much of your vision into it as you can. But at a certain point you have to realize less is more or it grows over your head so fast you don't know what hit you.

LomL has a very good mix for that. 2 Main Characters. 1 kinda dubious not sure if also a main character or not type of women.
3 side characters and thats it. You could even add one or two more but thats about it and it would still work. Either naughty had some help in figuring this out or he knew from the get go how short and compact works best. It took me 15 years to figure this shit out

 

[reDDevilZA]

This game has so much potential, but it is repetitively exhausting and the spice of it just goes away

 

[naughtyroad]

(...) Either naughty had some help in figuring this out or he knew from the get go how short and compact works best. It took me 15 years to figure this shit out

Well, I've always maintained that I have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm sticking to that.

TBH, coming from First Contact (my first and very very much a training project), I thought LomL would be a second step up to this big fantastic fantasy romp I was going to do that was so gonna slay, and I figured I'd spend about 6 to 9 months on LomL before wrapping it up and moving on to the big leagues. Little did I know. So, the very first drafts for LomL just had the wards, Brooke, Charlotte and the MC as the cast, even more limited than the current one.

The coven started out as a little cameo from three characters from First Contact, when I needed some extras, and I hadn't really figured they'd be regulars. But people seemed to like them, and I did too, as they're great fun to write for: given how they didn't really have a fixed role in the original drafts, they could run around wild and free, stirring things up and filling in where needed. They have these little closed storylines each episode, because there's no real arc laid out for them and I just ad lib them each chapter.

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

This game has so much potential, but it is repetitively exhausting and the spice of it just goes away

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Well, I've always maintained that I have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm sticking to that.

TBH, coming from First Contact (my first and very very much a training project), I thought LomL would be a second step up to this big fantastic fantasy romp I was going to do that was so gonna slay, and I figured I'd spend about 6 to 9 months on LomL before wrapping it up and moving on to the big leagues. Little did I know. So, the very first drafts for LomL just had the wards, Brooke, Charlotte and the MC as the cast, even more limited than the current one.

The coven started out as a little cameo from three characters from First Contact, when I needed some extras, and I hadn't really figured they'd be regulars. But people seemed to like them, and I did too, as they're great fun to write for: given how they didn't really have a fixed role in the original drafts, they could run around wild and free, stirring things up and filling in where needed. They have these little closed storylines each episode, because there's no real arc laid out for them and I just ad lib them each chapter.

For not having any idea what you are doing you do quite alot of things well. So Kudos to you.

On the other hand i knew those 3 seemed familiar to me. Looks like i have to replay first contact again but ther big alien lady is really really scary. And i still suffer from the trauma meeting her.

But i find it amazing that you wanted a more compact game at first. Cause in my experience you can start with 2 characters only and before you realize it you already have a group of 5 people you write about and wonder one day to yourself: "How the fuck did that happen?" which you can only blame yourself but the story got kinda alive and demanded more of you so you ran with the flow.

On the plus side we have a little devil who calls me "papi" and hopefully soon a sierrabot. (Ofc i will never abandon this idea. And you all know why)

 

[Wonko_the_Sane*]

"... in my experience you can start with 2 characters only and before you realize it you already have a group of 5 people you write about and wonder one day to yourself: "How the fuck did that happen?"

You can say that again! I have this epic fantasy project—think Game of Thrones scale for characters and plot complication—that started out as a satirical short story about clichés involving only a Royal Princess and her young (male) slave! (I've also been tinkering with it for about 40 years. If I were to flesh out all the background sketches of significant past events the whole thing would probably run to 10 or 12 books at this point, should I ever choose to complete and publish it.)

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

You can say that again! I have this epic fantasy project—think Game of Thrones scale for characters and plot complication—that started out as a satirical short story about clichés involving only a Royal Princess and her young (male) slave! (I've also been tinkering with it for about 40 years. If I were to flesh out all the background sketches of significant past events the whole thing would probably run to 10 or 12 books at this point, should I ever choose to complete and publish it.)

Listen to me and listen very carefully. Write it. Regardless of how big it gets. Do it, do it, do it, do it. AND SEND IT TO PUBLISHERS!!!!!!! Not 10 not 20. Everyone you can find.

If people like you would realize they sit on gold but are to afraid or ciritical of their own work we would never get stuff like Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones and many many more to enjoy.
Writing is not that hard. Well it is quite hard but the hard part is in the head not in the actual writing or wording of stuff. But many people including myself are way to critical with their own work and think its not good enough.

Meanwhile shitty romantic novels get printed and appear like shrooms everywhere. Reading one of them for 10 Minutes ensures your IQ starts dropping every minute by 10 points.

JUST DO IT! I promise you will not regret it even if it takes years to get a publisher. Even if you make no money out of it. The first one is the hardest so just DO IT!

 

[Deleted member 2345731]

lol nice easter eggs..

"FYI, she did not recently have it stuffed"
"going with the all natural look this year?"
"aww denise loves kittens"
"catch of the day"
"its a fanny ole word, innit?"
"doesnt it just make your mouth water?"
"be careful what you put in, you might not get it back"
"a bit of a botanist, are we?"
"a fine place to put your junk in"
"that's not a real word"
etc..

ProTip: you should've added similar easter eggs for when i was looking up porn of "Barbara Streisand", "Margaret Thatcher" and "Tina Turner when she was in Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome" in the bathroom, too

 

[Jacobsm]

Oh I'm Afraid the Catapults will be quite operational when the "bears" arrive....

Edit: as Penultimateanon pointed out i meant catapults not just trebuchets ^^

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This sort of catapult. Its lore friendly.

 

[Bobotheclown]

Well, I've always maintained that I have no idea what I'm doing, and I'm sticking to that.

TBH, coming from First Contact (my first and very very much a training project), I thought LomL would be a second step up to this big fantastic fantasy romp I was going to do that was so gonna slay, and I figured I'd spend about 6 to 9 months on LomL before wrapping it up and moving on to the big leagues. Little did I know. So, the very first drafts for LomL just had the wards, Brooke, Charlotte and the MC as the cast, even more limited than the current one.

The coven started out as a little cameo from three characters from First Contact, when I needed some extras, and I hadn't really figured they'd be regulars. But people seemed to like them, and I did too, as they're great fun to write for: given how they didn't really have a fixed role in the original drafts, they could run around wild and free, stirring things up and filling in where needed. They have these little closed storylines each episode, because there's no real arc laid out for them and I just ad lib them each chapter.

Not knowing what you're doing and yet doing such a good job so far. That is what's called being a naïve artist. Keep up the good work!

 

[XPanda]

naughtyroad, As much as people complain, you have something unique here that people treasure. As frustrating as the wait is, I know that it is going to be something worth waiting for. Thank you for taking the time to make sure that your story gets told the way that you want. We will all be the better for it.

 

[tubitubler]

any news regarding the date release of this updated?

 

[davemarg]

any news regarding the date release of this updated?

Sometimes this year (2021). Apparently they have a progress bar somewhere on Discord published every Wednesday (good luck finding it tho). Sometimes it is posted here but you have to look for couple of pages of (insufferable) posts. They should pin that progress thing in the OP

 

[Belfaborac]

They should pin that progress thing in the OP

Although I'm among those perfectly happy to wait, this is an idea I wholeheartedly support.

 

[tubitubler]

Sometimes this year (2021). Apparently they have a progress bar somewhere on Discord published every Wednesday (good luck finding it tho). Sometimes it is posted here but you have to look for couple of pages of (insufferable) posts. They should pin that progress thing in the OP

ok thank you

 

[Miðgarðsormr]

Apparently they have a progress bar somewhere on Discord published every Wednesday (good luck finding it tho).

My god. Would you look at that?
It is literally on Discord on the Section

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For some strangely very hard to find. Maybe we should hire some professionals to look into this issue cause apparently is so hard to find you could almost think that you didn't look for it at all as it took me literally 5 seconds to find it.

They should pin that progress thing in the OP

Oh my god yes. Thats a GENIUS IDEA! Cause clicking the link in the OP to go on discord and spend 5 seconds to look at the new progress bar is way to much work.

If you find the sarcasm in this post or any of my other posts offensive

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[Wonko_the_Sane*]

Oh no! Another (insufferable) post! (Actually, davemarg, some of us enjoy reading the posts here—almost as much as we enjoy posting them!—that's how I know you called them 'insufferable'...in parentheses.)

Just wanted to mention that I'm turning 60 on the 24th, so that would be a particularly fine time for the new update to happen...not that I'm gonna hold my breath for it or anything. Just sayin'.

 

[Belfaborac]

Cause clicking the link in the OP to go on discord and spend 5 seconds to look at the new progress bar is way to much work.

That'd be a GENIUS solution if I was registered at Discord. Which I'm not, nor want to be, so sadly it doesn't do squat.

 

[jestertlw]

That'd be a GENIUS solution if I was registered at Discord. Which I'm not, nor want to be, so sadly it doesn't do squat.

Or if you are ever curious about the progress, use the search box in the upper right corner of every page of this thread for the word "progress" or "update" and review the results. Amazingly, in the first page are several posts with reports on the progress over the past several weeks.

 

[Belfaborac]

By all means, I've searched for and looked at the progress diagrams posted here often.

There's really to need to make such a huge meal out this though, as it pertains to myself. I merely thought it would be a nice idea to have the diagram on the first page, not that it's an absolute must or a huge deal.

 

[Bill_Buttlicker]

I've heard this VN is really about a lonely bear living in the woods who tries to make friends with a goth chick only to scare her off and never see her again