Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[NODOGAN]

(this is basically impossible with 4 enemies unless you use an AOE weapon) or be able to take a ton of damage on higher difficulties.

I mean, you can always summon and gear up an Elemental right? currently trying out a Bear-Morph Soldier with an Earth Elemental both armed to the teeth, it's honestly a slaughterfest lol.

 

[Anon2579]

Honestly the skill tree section does need a pretty big rework, As atm, Seduction tree is pretty useless (bar orgasmic level drain... which is just busted, and the fertile,infertile/male versions of those, cuz they are fetish linked or used to help game performance*).

*Try playing with over 50 offspring... it getts annoying after a while (As you keep running into your kids when you dont want to, or the game lags... )

As atm if you want to lust KO an enemy (which is useless most of the time as against high arcane enemies its just easier to beat them into submission) you are better off using Arcane strike, as it refills your aura and deals consistent lust damage (without fetish variance).

Magic is pretty powerful with the right build... but those builds and some investing in the non-perk parts of the magic path and spell points... NOT perks, short of minmaxing to get as powerful magic strikes as possible theres not much point...

Flat out No point if you have to choose between physical perks and Magic ones (the ONLY good magic perks that ive seen are Aura Vampirism (cuz it means you practically get full restored every time you beat someone) and Chumbiyo (Cuz it gives a big attack boost and makes your character a chumbiyo... which is always fun)

Compared to that... Physical gives you health regen, Max health ups, raised escape chance (Useful against multibattles with imps in submission), flat damage boosts and damage shielding+1.

 

[OffPathGames]

Honestly the skill tree section does need a pretty big rework, As atm, Seduction tree is pretty useless (bar orgasmic level drain... which is just busted, and the fertile,infertile/male versions of those, cuz they are fetish linked or used to help game performance*).

*Try playing with over 50 offspring... it getts annoying after a while (As you keep running into your kids when you dont want to, or the game lags... )

As atm if you want to lust KO an enemy (which is useless most of the time as against high arcane enemies its just easier to beat them into submission) you are better off using Arcane strike, as it refills your aura and deals consistent lust damage (without fetish variance).

Magic is pretty powerful with the right build... but those builds and some investing in the non-perk parts of the magic path and spell points... NOT perks, short of minmaxing to get as powerful magic strikes as possible theres not much point...

Flat out No point if you have to choose between physical perks and Magic ones (the ONLY good magic perks that ive seen are Aura Vampirism (cuz it means you practically get full restored every time you beat someone) and Chumbiyo (Cuz it gives a big attack boost and makes your character a chumbiyo... which is always fun)

Compared to that... Physical gives you health regen, Max health ups, raised escape chance (Useful against multibattles with imps in submission), flat damage boosts and damage shielding+1.

I don't even use skills. I just max physical then triple punch for critical. I tried messing about with skills for a while until I found out the basic attack 3x is still better (at least in early game) than everything.

 

[Icarus Media]

I don't even know what if any animal could be circumcised....can you circumcise a cat penis?

1) Of all the question I ever thought I'd encounter....
2) You could try it but you probably wont have an arm left.

 

[CaptainBipto]

I don't even use skills. I just max physical then triple punch for critical. I tried messing about with skills for a while until I found out the basic attack 3x is still better (at least in early game) than everything.

Combat is pretty screwed up in this game right now. I remember Inno trying to balance it once, because seduction/lust builds were over powered, and it didn't change anything except make lust builds nonviable.

My usual build these days is to pick up the Soldier trait, then take the Martial Artist perk (I don't even need any more physical perks after that). Add in a pair of forceful knuckle dusters (cheap, newbie level gear) and with about 40 - 50ish physical and I can pretty much one shot every single mob in the game.

 

[NODOGAN]

Compared to that... Physical gives you health regen, Max health ups, raised escape chance (Useful against multibattles with imps in submission), flat damage boosts and damage shielding+1.

Also the martial arts perk (even if you ain't going with an unarmed build) gives a pretty huge boost to your critical damage which is usefull for melee characters as they always do the 3 attacks for that crit.

 

[Fikedever]

I think you're either replying to the wrong person, misinterpreting my posts, and/or misinterpreting the problem.

I don't think I'm replying to the wrong person. I could be misinterpreting what your definition of a memory leak is or the problem.

The actual issue has nothing to do with allocation/deallocation. That's why I was arguing against calling it a memory leak. The issue is that the dev in question didn't put a limit on the size of an object, and that both caused issues with memory usage and performance (since said data was being shoved directly into a GUI control).

"A memory leak is the gradual deterioration of system performance that occurs over time as the result of the fragmentation of a computer's RAM due to poorly designed or programmed applications that fail to free up memory segments when they are no longer needed."
What parts of the above definition do you think doesn't apply?

If you want I can be more specific to Java: "A memory leak is a situation where unused objects occupy unnecessary space in memory. Unused objects are typically removed by the Java Garbage Collector (GC) but in cases where objects are still being referenced, they are not eligible to be removed. As a result, these unused objects are unnecessarily maintained in memory."

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This has nothing to do with the GC failing to garbage collect, or Inno failing to release resources.

But you said they didn't put a limit on the size of an object? If there should be a limit on something, then that resource is allocated past when it should be. It is an indirect failure to release resources.

It was nothing more than unchecked, unrestricted, and unnecessary resource use.

I think unchecked, unrestricted and unnecessary memory usage fits the definition of a memory leak.

Would it be okay to call it a resource leak (maybe a space leak if you want to get really specific)?
Is your issue the usage of the term "memory" or "leak"?
Do you think its possible to have a memory leak in a GCed program?

 

[Sarkath]

"A memory leak is the gradual deterioration of system performance that occurs over time as the result of the fragmentation of a computer's RAM due to poorly designed or programmed applications that fail to free up memory segments when they are no longer needed."
What parts of the above definition do you think doesn't apply?

If you want I can be more specific to Java: "A memory leak is a situation where unused objects occupy unnecessary space in memory. Unused objects are typically removed by the Java Garbage Collector (GC) but in cases where objects are still being referenced, they are not eligible to be removed. As a result, these unused objects are unnecessarily maintained in memory."

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The element is still being both used and referenced. It's not a dead object, nor is it unused. It's not even a memory leak by that definition.

Did you actually read through the blog post that you cited above? It shows three types of memory leaks that can happen in Java:

"1. Through static fields"

Not the case here.

"2. Unclosed resources"

Specifically referring to file handles and stream objects. Also not the case here. This is a string or map of strings that is continuously growing (and, again, actively being used by both the UI and game).

"3. Improper equals() and hashCode() implementations"

Again, not the case here.

Simply using an object does not a memory leak make. A memory leak is the failure of the programmer or GC to clean up an object after it falls out of use.

Would it be okay to call it a resource leak (maybe a space leak if you want to get really specific)?
Is your issue the usage of the term "memory" or "leak"?

I take issue with "leak," because it's not a leak. Leaks refer to lost resources. If this object fell out of scope it would be released, but, once again, it's actively being used by the application. It's bending the definition of a "memory leak" far more than I'm willing to accept.

It's literally just "wasted resources." I don't know why people feel the need to attach technical terms to it. Sometimes a spade is just a spade.

Think of it this way. If water escapes from a pipe via a crack, puncture, hole, whatever, you'd rightfully call it a leak. If someone leaves the tap on for no reason, you'd say that they were wasting water. Inno is leaving the tap on. It's not that she didn't maintain her plumbing, it's that she left the faucet on for no reason.

Do you think its possible to have a memory leak in a GCed program?

I know it's possible. I gave an example of how you could easily do it in .NET in one of my previous posts. Aside from holding file handles and streams open, in .NET all you need to do is call Marshal.AllocHGlobal without a matching Marshal.FreeHGlobal. I'm not sure about the specifics behind how Java handles native integration, but I'm sure something similar would be possible there as well.

Basically, any time you're careless with OS resources (whether you're talking about file handles, unmanaged memory for native integration, etc) you can leak memory. This includes interop, as that generally involves passing a chunk of memory to a program that your execution environment has no control over.

 

[H8MyselfLoathing]

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[kaelcayla]

does anyone know a way to block male npcs to try and do naizuris and being the passive? thats all the sex my character is getting, i want my character to be the one fucked, not the dominant one

 

[Tattletale21]

does anyone know a way to block male npcs to try and do naizuris and being the passive? thats all the sex my character is getting, i want my character to be the one fucked, not the dominant one

do the obvious thing and lose? or surrender? or unrestrict their control and assume submissive positions?

EDIT: Or, after you win a battle...pick the submissive option?

 

[kaelcayla]

do the obvious thing and lose? or surrender? or unrestrict their control and assume submissive positions?

EDIT: Or, after you win a battle...pick the submissive option?

Im talking about consensual sex, i always choose to be sub during prostitution and when male clients come they always act like this, doing dominant prostitution lets me do whatever i want but i dont really want that, you know what im saying?

 

[DarkShroud]

Went away from this for quite some time, and now I'm back again.

Does anyone yet have any knowledge on how to correct the invisible text when played on Linux? It's all there, but the only way to see anything is to drag across and highlight everything. Not the easiest way to play this game, I have to admit.

 

[Tattletale21]

Im talking about consensual sex, i always choose to be sub during prostitution and when male clients come they always act like this, doing dominant prostitution lets me do whatever i want but i dont really want that, you know what im saying?

i'm pretty sure the prostitution system is busted, so you're SoL

 

[NODOGAN]

Im talking about consensual sex, i always choose to be sub during prostitution and when male clients come they always act like this, doing dominant prostitution lets me do whatever i want but i dont really want that, you know what im saying?

Go to option, fetishes preferences and disable the one named "breasts" (person's desire to have their breasts used by others) so they stop performing naizuri on you? alternatively get Irresistible Appeals perk to force the position you want even as the submissive one?

 

[Sarkath]

Went away from this for quite some time, and now I'm back again.

Does anyone yet have any knowledge on how to correct the invisible text when played on Linux? It's all there, but the only way to see anything is to drag across and highlight everything. Not the easiest way to play this game, I have to admit.

Weird…I've played quite a bit on Linux and have never run into this.

Which distro, DE, and JDK are you running?

 

[DarkShroud]

Weird…I've played quite a bit on Linux and have never run into this.

Which distro, DE, and JDK are you running?

Ubuntu 20.04, using the exe version and playing with Lutris, aaaand that's basically all I really know. I'm not that great with fiddling stuff.

 

[Sarkath]

Ubuntu 20.04, using the exe version and playing with Lutris, aaaand that's basically all I really know. I'm not that great with fiddling stuff.

Ah, yeah, I've read that LT has issues running under Wine. I think it might be an issue with JavaFX.

You can run the JAR version natively. Download that and extract it somewhere in your home directory. Now what you'll want to do is install OpenJDK 11 and OpenJFX. Open up a terminal and run the following:

sudo apt install openjdk-11-jre openjfx

Next, change into the Lilith's Throne directory using cd. Make sure that you're in the directory that has the JAR file.

Now you're going to need to fetch a startup script I just wrote and flag it as executable. You can do so by doing the following:

wget https://files.sarkath.net/liliths_throne/start-lt.sh
chmod +x start-lt.sh

Now you can run the game by going into the directory in Terminal and invoking the script with ./start-lt.sh. Et voilà:



If you'd rather run it from Files rather than mucking about in the Terminal: start up Files, click on the Hamburger menu, and click "Preferences." Go into the "Behavior" tab, and select either "Run them" or "Ask what to do" in the "Executable Text Files" section:



I highly recommend using the "Ask what to do" setting, as that still gives you a bit of a safety net when dealing with unknown/untrusted shell scripts.

I hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[SheepPun]

You know, I'm surprised there's no fetish system for size difference. And I'm not talking about the size queen fetish, I'm talking like; likes small breasts/dicks/etc, likes shorter/taller partners, etc etc. Unless I'm missing some toggle button, every npc runs off the logic of bigger is sexier.

Do I want Inno to implement this? God no, not right now, but this feels like a really common set of preferences/fetishes unaccounted for from a developer who struggles with keeping her people pleaser tendencies at bay