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Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]
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- Jul 21, 2017
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Because shes getting antsy. She is accelerating versions to mask the lack of progress.
Realistically we are still at v04.0.1, she has only JUST gotten around to polishing 4.0 release.
We will be at v5.0 by Easter and nothing substantial will be added.
She keeps
She knows she a flake, and her zealots are getting restless.
- Mar 1, 2018
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Last year we got two meaningful content updates.
I think anyone expecting any more than that at this point might not being paying attention to the game's history.
I think anyone expecting any more than that at this point might not being paying attention to the game's history.
I really, REALLY want Ferals to finally be added and i hope one of the modders from the community will see to it because at this point i'm slowly losing my faith in Inno to do it herself.
Tbh I'd be fine getting less frequent "updates". I just hate the false hope seeing the game on "Latest Updates"
I'd love to give this game another shot if there were a combat overhaul. Every time I see this game bumped, I breathlessly check the notes for that, but alas..
- Jul 21, 2017
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I assume he counts the monthly modder inclusions and halfhearted bugfixes as updates.
I reiterate shes bloating her updates with useless fluff and
Even AceXP is getting tired of being her unpaid codemonkey.
- Jul 21, 2017
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TFgames forum. While hardly damning, there are clear... implications.
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That's pretty crappy... in fact this whole situation is.
Inno would benefit from encouraging her community to take a more proactive role on modding - it keeps the game alive and takes some of the responsibility off her shoulders so she can work on something else (like Ace stated). She doesn't have to of course, just like modders don't have to help her out either, as neither signed a contract with each other, but it would be nice a nice gesture from her part and it could attract new players and potential modders to the fold.
She makes 7k a month. Even if Sub. Star took half as taxes, the remaining sum is more than enough for her to be financially comfortable, with a little extra to invest forward **1. "As a reward for helping me out, the top 3 contributors this month are getting 100/250/500$ respectively. Thanks guys!" Or something like that. She doesn't have to deal with the hassle of hiring and managing a team, while still getting things done because people feel motivated to help. Win-win.
**1 -People would be less inclined to call her greedy and a "milker" too, if they saw her investing a portion of the money towards the game's future. Something more than just paying her bills and the occasional commission for a character portrait. Because, regardless of our definition of donation/investment, fact is she's making money BECAUSE of the game. Compensating modders is, at this point in time, an investment towards the game's future.
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While I would not assume malice, sloth is definitely an issue.
I do not wish to put words in Inno's "Dev Team's" mouths...
But each release is more modder code, and less her code.
Money would only create dramabombs.
Still unfair she steals their time, effort, and passion; only to reimburse them with excuses, delays, and placeholders.
I do not wish to put words in Inno's "Dev Team's" mouths...
But each release is more modder code, and less her code.
Money would only create dramabombs.
Still unfair she steals their time, effort, and passion; only to reimburse them with excuses, delays, and placeholders.
Drama usually hinges on the individual in question and circumstances, not so much the money (though it can be a factor too).
While the modding community has been amazing so far, you can't avoid the occasional bad apple. What's stopping an active but "bad" modder from coming along one day and clashing with Inno, stating a good chunk of the code can be attributed to them; their work/time/skill invested into it? Or a "good" modder turning sour towards the developer and asking her to strip all of their work from the game? Would Inno even do it? If she says "no" (because ownership of content, after permission is given, is transferred to her) it would still lead to drama.
There's not a whole lot a modder can do to "hurt" the game from a legal stand point, but it would still leave a bad rep. And negativity spreads like wildfire, sometimes with little to no context. So yes, creating an incentive (and depending too much on modders) to advance your project comes with risks of its own, not too dissimilar from those that come with hiring a team. The difference is, with modders, the ball is on Inno's court.
I can't wait until 4.4 drops in it's completed form in... what, the next six or seven months?
Also, how long until we start ascribing ownership of this game to AceXP? I'm pretty damn sure they have added more content to Lilith's Throne than Inno has this past year. Certainly has been the case for the last few months.
Every day I wonder if the end game for LT, is just a silent and/or pathetic resignation ala abandonment or if this ends in some big breeding season-esque drama where modders try and take their code and just use to create their own game. I feel as if the LT modding community is too loyal to try that kind of Shakespearian betrayal then again it sounds like even Ace's patience is wearing thin.
In any case I expect a lot of updates going forward to be made up of mostly mod team content, which wouldn't be that bad if you know Inno was providing more meaningful story content to compensate but we'll see how the year goes.
Have you downloaded feral mod? If not, you can wait forever.
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Just put Phobos in Lilith's Throne\res\mods