Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[StapleComm]

OMITTED AGAIN

Thanks for the recommendations. Don't worry about Love and Corruption being vanilla, I actually prefer vanilla stuff. If I didn't care about vanilla I wouldn't even be asking for recommendations and would just play CoC

 

[Haniiwa22]

I can appreciate the game actually letting you roleplay non-con scenes, rather than having your character end up liking it like 99% of these text-based games.

 

[HerrLeutnant]

I'm going to be honest here, there aren't that many text games that offer as much content (and quality) as Fenoxo does with COC and TITS, hyper-futas notwithstanding. Lilith's Throne is only up there because of how customizable it is and because it has no real competition. If it weren't for that it probably wouldn't have the rating it does now... it just doesn't deserve it IMO.

That being said, of all games I've played on F95 so far, there are a few stand out:

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa. The developer is pretty much the opposite of Inno in that they don't like estimates and only release when they feel there's enough content in there to justify an update (and it's ready for the public). They have a good head on their shoulders and try to keep their scope within what they can manage.

It's my favorite of this list, with loads of potential and a good dev behind it.

2) Love and Corruption - This one draws inspirations from Fenoxos' works and it shows... even the UI looks similar. The drawback (for me personally) is that you can only play as a male MC, there's a strong emphasis on pregnancy and combat can be a little tough. Admittedly, it's a little on the "vanilla" side and lacks the variety COC/TITS has, however, this game has only been out for a month so it's understandable. For a game that is just 1-month-old, it already has a respectable amount of content out...

3) Malevolent Planet - If you want a sci-fi like TITS, with lots of aliens a little bestiality in the mix, then this may scratch that itch. Be warned that it's a female-protag only and becomes a sort of "open-world" experience when you advance in the story. Otherwise, the story is relatively interesting and the art good.

4) Degrees of Lewdity - I personally don't like it but lots of people do. It's the opposite of a power-fantasy; everything and everyone wants to r*pe you and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're just a weak underdog straight out of the orphanage and life is tough. It has a decent amount of customization though (including content toggles and tweaks).

5) Unholy Arts - Another somewhat popular title that I'm not big into. It's basically a battle fuck and stat management simulator. I spent most of my time trying to level my stats and I still lost. All the time. Maybe I just suck or made the wrong choices... oh and I found the map to be really confusing to navigate back when I played it. Warning; it's another female-protag only.

(Regardless, I suggest you take a look at the reviews of each game to see what people think of it. My opinion alone doesn't count for much as most of it is just personal bias...)

Lust Doll Is a pretty good one too!

 

[Tynluktu]

So I'm on my 4th day and I got a bug in Rose's sex scene in Lilaya's room after begging Rose to not tell Lilaya I can submit to her or refuse, when I press submit i just get 15 affection points for rose and nothing happens, I can keep pressing it indefinitely and get 15 affection point for every click but the scene doesn't trigger. It triggered without any problem on the 1st day. Refusing works. Is this a known bug? Is there any workaround? Can I just ignore this scene because it doesn't lead to anything more or do I have to restart?

 

[CaptainBipto]

So I'm on my 4th day and I got a bug in Rose's sex scene in Lilaya's room after begging Rose to not tell Lilaya I can submit to her or refuse, when I press submit i just get 15 affection points for rose and nothing happens, I can keep pressing it indefinitely and get 15 affection point for every click but the scene doesn't trigger. It triggered without any problem on the 1st day. Refusing works. Is this a known bug? Is there any workaround? Can I just ignore this scene because it doesn't lead to anything more or do I have to restart?

What version are you playing on? 0.4.3.9? I just tried it, on the newest version, with one of the random characters I have and it worked just fine for me. I was on day 160 something and didn't have any problems with that scene.
It is possible that you have a toggle turned on (or off) that is preventing the scene. Try resetting all of your game settings to default and see if that works.
I am pretty sure you can just ignore that scene, it doesn't really affect anything. You aren't going to miss anything by skipping over that scene with the maid.

 

[Tynluktu]

What version are you playing on? 0.4.3.9? I just tried it, on the newest version, with one of the random characters I have and it worked just fine for me. I was on day 160 something and didn't have any problems with that scene.
It is possible that you have a toggle turned on (or off) that is preventing the scene. Try resetting all of your game settings to default and see if that works.
I am pretty sure you can just ignore that scene, it doesn't really affect anything. You aren't going to miss anything by skipping over that scene with the maid.

Yeah, I'm playing the latest version, it's not anything with toggles because if I start a new game with the same settings the scene works fine. Anyway it's only a 4th day so I will just start over and hope that it doesn't happen again.

 

[Tynluktu]

Welp, it happened again but now I'm 100% sure that it happenes after doing the sex scene with Rose in the dungeon, after that the scene in Lilaya's bedroom stops working.

 

[arc8495]

maybe im dumb, but for some reason, every time I open and close the game, all my saves disappear?

 

[BaloneyAmone]

maybe im dumb, but for some reason, every time I open and close the game, all my saves disappear?

The game likely does not have permission to create/edit files in the directory that it is installed in.
Do you have the game placed in Program Files/Program Files (x86)? If so, moving it elsewhere may fix the problem.

 

[arc8495]

The game likely does not have permission to create/edit files in the directory that it is installed in.
Do you have the game placed in Program Files/Program Files (x86)? If so, moving it elsewhere may fix the problem.

ok, will give that a try thanks!

 

[chichong]

Guys, I started the game a couple of days ago, I've read guides and that scarce wiki, but I can't find answers to my questions. So maybe you can help. And before everything, I don't mind cheating but I prefer not to. So if there is a legit option of getting what I want, I'll use that and keep the dishonest ways as a last resort.

1. In perk chart, you can get only 16 physique (and 5 from being human). That's 21. Max appears to be 100. Is there any way besides enchanting / cheating / race transformation to get those points? Yes, I've read the bottom line in perk screen - proof of concept. But maybe there are quests giving points (not perk points like Pix).
2. Same as above, but for arcane.
3. Apparently there is a hard cap on your damage / protection. +100% and +500. Is there any way to... avoid those caps? It's not that I lose - I never lost a fight yet, and I play on Lilith difficulty (2x level, 400% and 25% dmg) - but hardest enemy was a level 70 greater succubus. So I assume at some point I'll met enemies I cannot defeat with current limitations. Are the NPCs subject of the same caps?
4. After defeating enemies you have the option to access their inventory and take their money / items. There are enforcers with essence on them, and apparently I cannot take that. Is this correct or am I missing something?
5. What's the highest rank you can achieve in that society? You start as protegee, you become slave owner. And besides that?
6. Is Angel (the brother owner) the only human *special* female in the game besides you?
7. The real-estate limitation thing. It's developer way of saying there is no content regarding this, or you can unlock it via quests?
8. Where you can sell enforcer clothing and weapons? Is there a fence somewhere?

--- and here comes the lewd part ---

9. Even it's very tempting to get certain fetishes in order to unlock certain sex actions, I am very reluctant to do so because of weaknesses they come with. For now I get a fetish before a sex scene then I remove it after with enchanted Mystery Kink. It's getting tiresome and quite costly essence wise. It's the 3x damage (combined with 400% from difficulty) a win-lose thing?
10. There are fetishes I cannot understand - or maybe there are no actions linked to them in game. For example, someone please explain to me what's the difference between leg lover and feet lover. (I mean I know what they means, but what's the difference in game?)
11. Is there a way to let events flow in sex scenes based on your / partner(s) preferences and not having to click-click-click on buttons after each action?

That's quite all (for the moment). I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

LT is honestly a burning trainwreck.
I tried the latest version and compared to the version from a year ago, practically nothing was added.
Features that were implemented 3(???) years ago are still unfinished (like genital modification...how hard is it to add +1 to lust for ribbed vagina for examaple? The bonus is already there for other things)
The development of this game might as well be a presentation on what not to do. Tons of time spent on useless, vapid things, exceptionally bad managment of time, exceptionally little progress.
And lets not forget that the people Inno listens the most are his discord fans. And all the modsnad the loudest vocies are ultra furries that react to extreme hostiltiy to anything that they don't like (which VERY muhc includes option for turning and tweaking hings they like). I remember one time suggesting a cum regeneration modifier in options (a trivial thing to implement) and you'd think I murdered someone mother.
The "new" area.. Elis or something... all character are furries. At least in Dominion you had some half-morphs...and actual content.

Absolutely, utterly terrible.

 

[ara1111]

Hey bro they added 15 colored shirts in 3 years, is that not enough

 

[ebonheart2319]

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That's quite all (for the moment). I'd appreciate any help. Thanks.

1-3) Humans have the worst stats in game. Races can get stupid overpowered. Dragons/Alitaurs specifically.
Stat progression is borked. You hit the difficulty plateau, hypothetically a Dragon could ruin you... if they naturally spawned.
Hard caps are hard capped. Editing XML files would be cheating.
4) Enforcers are protected from post battle robbing. The upgraded Vortex can strip them and you can loot their clothes (not weapons) from the ground. Supposedly the RNG based Christmas Presents can contain the Steal Skill book.
5 and 7) Tossed on the TBD pile with properties. The spaghetti code makes mapping exponentially harder than it should be.
6) Angel is an abandoned commission from years back. Her content is now entirely AceXP mods baked in. She, like the Romance store clerk were part of abandoned plotlines.
8) Fence is in the Submission Casino.

9-11) This is where all the game math ended up, and where it goes to die. Inno is paid extra to highlight specific fetishes, even if it drags/bloats/damages the system as a whole.
Its not optimized, its not supported, it breaks a lot of other systems. She adds things for a cheap paycheck then abandons them. Someday modders might streamline this system, but until then its a general mess of arbitrary math and constant clicking.

 

[chichong]

1-3) Humans have the worst stats in game. Races can get stupid overpowered. Dragons/Alitaurs specifically.
Stat progression is borked. You hit the difficulty plateau, hypothetically a Dragon could ruin you... if they naturally spawned.
Hard caps are hard capped. Editing XML files would be cheating.
4) Enforcers are protected from post battle robbing. The upgraded Vortex can strip them and you can loot their clothes (not weapons) from the ground. Supposedly the RNG based Christmas Presents can contain the Steal Skill book.
5 and 7) Tossed on the TBD pile with properties. The spaghetti code makes mapping exponentially harder than it should be.
6) Angel is an abandoned commission from years back. Her content is now entirely AceXP mods baked in. She, like the Romance store clerk were part of abandoned plotlines.
8) Fence is in the Submission Casino.

9-11) This is where all the game math ended up, and where it goes to die. Inno is paid extra to highlight specific fetishes, even if it drags/bloats/damages the system as a whole.
Its not optimized, its not supported, it breaks a lot of other systems. She adds things for a cheap paycheck then abandons them. Someday modders might streamline this system, but until then its a general mess of arbitrary math and constant clicking.

Thank you for taking the time to answer. Can't say I'm thrilled of what I've learned.

It appears all the depth and detail in this game it's just on surface. Once you try to dig deeper you hit hard rock.
Eh, I would've expected more judging by it's age.

I'll keep playing to see where story-line leads me.


Later edit. Question. I'm not exactly a fan of bestiality / inter-species sex. (That's why my character only partner is that Angel girl - and that's why character is still a virgin). Turning furries off from options only affected randomly generated NPCs - story characters are still half-animals. That being said, my only option to enjoy the lewd part of the game is Angel or human slaves?

 

[Aazkaal]

Turning furries off from options only affected randomly generated NPCs - story characters are still half-animals. That being said, my only option to enjoy the lewd part of the game is Angel or human slaves?

Yes, though you can find occasional demon partners (some of whom are also furry); the game is mainly furry-themed, and is actually made by a furry. If you wish to avoid furry, you would be severely limited in what content you can play. By the way, the bestiality isn't in the game yet, despite the toggle for it being available: the game still has no way to make someone feral legitimately or even through debug menu.

As for fetishes, the bonus lust damage from them isn't that big to be afraid to take them; they have stronger effect on sex scenes, where they affects the speed of lust accumulation, slightly alters some dialogues (as is everything in the game, this feature is underused), and allows to avoid gaining corruption if it bothers you (or allows to bypass corruption requirement if you set it on). So, basically, pick whatever you want, you're unlikely to lose a battle because you picked something wrong; nor you're gonna win because you picked something "right": the combat is beyond broken.

 

[ebonheart2319]

Question. I'm not exactly a fan of bestiality / inter-species sex. (That's why my character only partner is that Angel girl - and that's why character is still a virgin). Turning furries off from options only affected randomly generated NPCs - story characters are still half-animals. That being said, my only option to enjoy the lewd part of the game is Angel or human slaves?

Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. And getting wider each update.

As you found, the magnitude toggles can shift the descriptions of RNG Generated Npcs down to standard anime catgirl levels of furry.
But special NPCs are treated/described as Inno "intended". She has yet to explain if this is due to older NPCs and Races being tangled in the engine rather than XML files or if she is just being a little dictator.

Angels, Humans, and Demon races are, as of 4.3, still locked in the spaghetti code rather than the XML files like the rest of the races.

Slaves and Tenets can be fed potions to be human. And Helen can make custom order slaves. That's about as good as it gets.

 

[sneezy_of_tie]

1-3) Humans have the worst stats in game. Races can get stupid overpowered. Dragons/Alitaurs specifically.
Stat progression is borked. You hit the difficulty plateau, hypothetically a Dragon could ruin you... if they naturally spawned.
Hard caps are hard capped. Editing XML files would be cheating.

It takes a bit but if you know what you are doing, you can run Lilith difficulty and not lose a single fight as human.
The first trick is knowing that you do not need to get into a fight to unlock aura. Then it is a bunch of days grinding potions, money is power in this game . Money allows you to stock up on temporary effects through potions (since you'll go through a lot of em and generally they are essence heavy to get as many of the stats to the potion cap bonus) and more permanent effects through enchantments (If playing with the enchantment limit I recommend raw stats first, the more specialized). And finally an elemental is the best meatshield there is, keep it alive and unless the enemy is throwing around AoE lust effects you'll won't even have to use those calming potions.

That said the game has had little progress from the first time I've ran across it. The most important things would have been the enchantment and potion balancing. Other then that there have been a few side quest. It has taken a year or more for the next town to be accessible and get some content. Part of that is Inno getting writers block, part of it the dread of having to face the commentators/followers after yet another update and having to explain why not everything got in there and a major part is what you described with Innoxia being pushed around by the demands others make.

 

[BeholdTheWizzard]

Later edit. Question. I'm not exactly a fan of bestiality / inter-species sex. (That's why my character only partner is that Angel girl - and that's why character is still a virgin). Turning furries off from options only affected randomly generated NPCs - story characters are still half-animals. That being said, my only option to enjoy the lewd part of the game is Angel or human slaves?

Do what I did - edit the save. All characters are in there and you can do whatever you want. Change body parts (including genticals), fetishes, etc..
I basically de-furrified story characters.

 

[chichong]

Do what I did - edit the save. All characters are in there and you can do whatever you want. Change body parts (including genticals), fetishes, etc..
I basically de-furrified story characters.

Hey, that's an excellent idea.

... However, it seems to be a lot of work.
Lol, it took me 2-3 hours only to find (and chose - because I'm a very picky moron) images for my character and her companion(s). Changing all those horrid pics from \res\images\characters with others reflecting the changes made in .xml save - that's a full weekend chore. And cropping low res jpgs took from deviantart for 12-16 hours it's not quite my idea of "fun". (That is, without counting the .xml editing as well.)


Thank you for sharing tho. If I ever do this on a level better than "for personal use" I'll share the images and a save at day 1 level 1. But after reading previous comments about general attitude regarding "defurrification" I suspect this would upset a lot of... uhm... "people".