Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[BeholdTheWizzard]

In short, if there's a character who lays eggs with an ovipositor clit/penis able to penetrate, they can use somebody else to carry fertilized eggs by depositing them into an orifice on orgasm. The resulting kids show up on the carrier's offspring list as "incubated" (the changelog was about how this had been bugged) so there's potentially 3 parents and they count as incest. The pregnancy cycle ends in an alleyway not Lilaya. I think only spiders end up with the egg/ovi combo as a default, anything else you have to transform.

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

 

[Tattletale21]

The game is unplayable for me, my monitor is too small for the game and there's no option menu to help me set it however i want it to be

how, uh, small is your monitor? because i'm pretty sure the game tells you what buttons to press to resize the game to fit your monitor's size and, unless your monitor is the size of a small tablet, it should work. look around the main menu as you start up, it should tell you what buttons to press.

 

[HumblestRanger]

Well, that's dissapointing. I though that finally an option to use collected cum to impregnate someone sneakily was added.

Speaking of which, for laughs/test, I edited my save and changed some special NPCs races (de-furrifying everyone) and genders. Game works normaly. So all the excuses that special NPC's can't follow general prefernves is UTTER BULLCRAP.

Considering that special NPCs behave exactly the same way as any random ones in sex scenes as well - I am not really surprised. From my bystander's eyes, every single NPC in the game seems to be the same template copypasted over and over with some minor values being randomized(the manner of speech, the appearance, etc.) The only difference in special ones being that they are permanently baked into the game world with some extra detachable "modules"(such as unique dialogues) applied. Otherwise they are all the bloody same.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Which gender is better to start this game with? Considering the unchangeable gender characters, i prefer straight content FtoM or MtoF

You can craft TF potions to turn non-procedural NPCs (and yourself) into the opposite gender if you wish, but in terms of mechanical benefits if you refrain from using TF, I think an ambiphilic female would be the best option, though the situations that I recall where it applies are altogether edge cases:

• Much quicker to reach the necessary thresholds for bypassing the matriarch fights on the Harpy Nest quest, generally only requiring gaining a couple fetishes and perks. They're not very hard to beat, but it's something.
• If you TF into a wolf, you can skip the Brax fight without having to take the Observant perk. Taking Observant is a far better idea anyway since it's literally free to respec in comparison to having to invest a chunk of essence into a transformation potion, but eh.
• If you don't mind creating a lot of children, you can leverage your ability to get pregnant: you can make good money on breeder roulette, and for buying Brax, you can bypass the usual 50,000 price by doing so. This is only relevant if you don't use some exploit/cheese to have infinite money.
• You get access to all NPC current sex scenes, most notably Scarlett on the Helena romance quest line, who is gynephilic, as well as that one fox guard in the Slaver Alley. There might be an androphilic character somewhere in Elis that I remember reading about. If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.
  

Altogether, you can play as pretty much anyone you want without being locked out of too much content, especially since you can transform yourself to be able to access it later.

 

[alfabb]

> You get access to all NPC current sex scenes, most notably Scarlett on the Helena romance quest line, who is gynephilic, as well as that one fox guard in the Slaver Alley. There might be an androphilic character somewhere in Elis that I remember reading about. If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.

The Aligator in the Casino.

 

[kht]

[...]If you decide to make your character androgynous instead of feminine/very feminine, you get access to everyone for certain.

Well yes, but actually no.

Sadly, the way this game implements androgyny is quite hackish (like everything else in it...), so it only gives you a little versatility in letting clothes decide if you'll be treated as male OR female, but not both at the same time, so you're never truly androgynous.

Also, it always fully treats you as a female or a male without letting you mix and match. You cannot be, for example, a femboy who attracts gynephiles (like a female would) but still retains his male pronouns, you are forced to take the entire gender package... which I'd say kinda defeats the whole point of an androgynous character, but whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ </rant>

 

[tehlemon]

From my bystander's eyes, every single NPC in the game seems to be the same template copypasted over and over with some minor values being randomized(the manner of speech, the appearance, etc.) The only difference in special ones being that they are permanently baked into the game world with some extra detachable "modules"(such as unique dialogues) applied. Otherwise they are all the bloody same.

You think that, because that's how the game works. And the manner of speech is literally just the same template with a text filter applied to it, so its the same template as well.

The only stuff that seems to actually matter is the couple intro paragraphs, and some very rare random chat lines that you'll likely never see.

 

[darklove]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

 

[CurtimusPrime92]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

 

[dinodick]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

If you're fine with most NPCs being futa/dickgirls and less nuanced transformations and want more story: TITS
If you want more control over what kind of NPCs show up and more control over transformations and care less about story: LT
For all its faults the ability to fine tune yourself and NPCs is pretty amazing, especially since I'm into stuff most games completely ignore.

 

[IvoryOwl]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TITS:
Content in TITS is curated and focuses primarily on hyper proportions and futa-women, especially if you decide to play with art on. There are other types of scenes and fetishes in the mix as well, just not as common. I find sex scenes to be of higher quality just because they are actually thought out and written by a person rather than added by code based on whatever body parts you have, though your mileage may vary.

Progress in TITS is steady and stable. It has been in development for a longer period of time and Fenoxo has an entire team backing him up. Alas, the old engine they were using (Flash) was officially deprecated due to it's age and security concerns and this forced Fenoxo to port everything to a newer one, something they are still in middle of (the newer version is still incomplete). The community has its share of writers as well, and Fenoxo sometimes adds their work to the game (with their permission).

Some years back Patreon decided to tighten the rules around what content was allowed on their platform and the lead developer caved in to their demands. Incest was removed and newer content comes with certain limitations in mind.

LT:
Lilith's Throne is a newer game being worked on by a single developer, Innoxia (though lately modders have been a big help too, some may even argue they do more than the developer herself does, and aren't even being paid for it...).

Its bread and butter lies in its customization, both in terms of character appearance as well as content toggles and tweaks. Sex scenes are modular and generate based on the body parts and fetishes of the participants. In terms of sex, TITS and LT are in the opposite ends of the spectrum. In TITS sex scenes are hand-written but offer no variability, LT has variability but lacks flair, meaning you're forced to rely on your imagination more often to carry it through.

LT's development is a bit of a joke (or sore spot) among the community. Innoxia is known for her inability to keep up with her own deadlines and getting side-tracked quite often. This results in promised content getting delayed for weeks or months in favor of her "spontaneous ideas". Progress has slowed down over the years and there are questions regarding how feasible this all is in long-term (i.e, whether it will survive or not). So far, all feedback regarding the game's pitfalls and suggestions have fallen on deaf ears, and half the community is liable to jump at you if you so much as voice your criticism... (though less so on this website).

The game is as wide as an ocean but deep as a puddle, and suffers from feature creep. There are a lot of fetishes and customizations options but they are mostly inconsequential as the game doesn't recognize or even acknowledge even half of those things in any meaningful manner. Most people who praise the game are newcomers who haven't become disillusioned with it yet... we've all been there. Lilith's Throne is one of those titles whose enjoyment comes with an expiration date.

Once the novelty feeling fades, you really only need to check this thread once a year to see if there has been any progress.

Both games have their pros and cons and several hours worth of fun, it all depends on what you prefer.

 

[StapleComm]

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On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

 

[Saxxy]

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

They had to scrap the flash version cause of the whole flash shutdown situation

 

[alfabb]

On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

As in "Furry text game with customizable/transformable PC"? Flexible Survival is on the same scale of content. That's pretty much it as far as i am aware.

 

[tehlemon]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

TiTS has more good content, even if you hate all the hyper futa shit they keep adding, than LT. Both versions of the game also run better than LT. The bugs you run into are less prone to destroying your saves or the game itself than with LT. Having looked at how the new version is being redesigned, it's definitely better designed than LT.

But its still a very different style of game, that fits into different niches.

TiTs was better than lillith's throne IMO, BEFORE TiTs team decided to scrap developing the flash version, they are currently rebuilding the game from the ground up in web/html/javascript, so there isn't much of the game that once was in the flash version....

The majority of TiTS is in the new version already. I suspect they'll have it fully up to parity within the month, which is honestly kind of impressive. I wish CoC2 would accept some of the engine changes the TiTS team has added.

That said, for the love of whatever fucking gods you choose, can they *please* finally allow for horizontal scaling? The locked aspect ratio is so fucking stupid.

They had to scrap the flash version cause of the whole flash shutdown situation

Anyone crying about that is a fucking moron. There's one or two people in particular who I'm thinking of here. Flash needed to die. That's why literally everyone banded together to force its death.

 

[Luciel]

So I've had these pepperball handguns for the longest time, but they seem kinda weak going up against later enemies. Any place I can get some stronger versions?

 

[ebonheart2319]

So I've had these pepperball handguns for the longest time, but they seem kinda weak going up against later enemies. Any place I can get some stronger versions?

The only stronger vanilla guns are from the Wes Quest...

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There is another quest in the batcave for rebel armor and grenades.

 

[IvoryOwl]

On that note, is there any similar games to those two? Not including CoC1 and 2

I'm going to be honest here, there aren't that many text games that offer as much content (and quality) as Fenoxo does with COC and TITS, hyper-futas notwithstanding. Lilith's Throne is only up there because of how customizable it is and because it has no real competition. If it weren't for that it probably wouldn't have the rating it does now... it just doesn't deserve it IMO.

That being said, of all games I've played on F95 so far, there are a few stand out:

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa. The developer is pretty much the opposite of Inno in that they don't like estimates and only release when they feel there's enough content in there to justify an update (and it's ready for the public). They have a good head on their shoulders and try to keep their scope within what they can manage.

It's my favorite of this list, with loads of potential and a good dev behind it.

2) Love and Corruption - This one draws inspirations from Fenoxos' works and it shows... even the UI looks similar. The drawback (for me personally) is that you can only play as a male MC, there's a strong emphasis on pregnancy and combat can be a little tough. Admittedly, it's a little on the "vanilla" side and lacks the variety COC/TITS has, however, this game has only been out for a month so it's understandable. For a game that is just 1-month-old, it already has a respectable amount of content out...

3) Malevolent Planet - If you want a sci-fi like TITS, with lots of aliens a little bestiality in the mix, then this may scratch that itch. Be warned that it's a female-protag only and becomes a sort of "open-world" experience when you advance in the story. Otherwise, the story is relatively interesting and the art good.

4) Degrees of Lewdity - I personally don't like it but lots of people do. It's the opposite of a power-fantasy; everything and everyone wants to r*pe you and there's not a whole lot you can do about it. You're just a weak underdog straight out of the orphanage and life is tough. It has a decent amount of customization though (including content toggles and tweaks).

5) Unholy Arts - Another somewhat popular title that I'm not big into. It's basically a battle fuck and stat management simulator. I spent most of my time trying to level my stats and I still lost. All the time. Maybe I just suck or made the wrong choices... oh and I found the map to be really confusing to navigate back when I played it. Warning; it's another female-protag only.

(Regardless, I suggest you take a look at the reviews of each game to see what people think of it. My opinion alone doesn't count for much as most of it is just personal bias...)

 

[ara1111]

Tits or Lilith's throne? Which is the better game?

Tits by miles. Lilith's throne is 'anything fits' sex and poorly designed in general. You just pick soldier on spawn, punch succubus, capture, sell it, use infinite funds to casually buy a wep to 1-3 shot everything in the game and then either manually change your body via buying 500 essences and 1 (one) transforming item or just go become a slime person.
Then you fuck anyone you want with the same sex acts available with everyone the only functional dif being if they have a dick or vag and if they go "OHHHHHHHHH I HATE THIS!" or "OHHHHHHHHH I LOVE THIS" every time you spit on them.
Its about as exciting as jacking it to an excel sheet, but at least the ui is good.

Tits imo has the best sex scenes of any of the coc/tits games. Its combat is also fairly bad, but there's just far more to do. And meaningfully do. Fucking the snake girl mechanic (best girl) and snake girl wall slut is entirely different. Doing those with big or small dick changes the dialogue noticeably. Choosing to give in or not to the wall slut changes her dialogue in future encounters, and I think gives a game over if you do it enough. The scenes tend to be pretty long (unlike coc 1) and the combat is simple but never tedious (unlike coc 2) while offering enough challenge to make class choices feel somewhat meaningful.
Also tits has meaningful updates and not "hey we spent over a month copy pasting clothing code, adding a few of these bad boys ",", then pasting it in, and renaming it from "red shirt" to "blue shirt". Took 5 whole minutes. Enjoy your new completely functionally identical clothing and nothing else.
Also has a goo form to trivialze transformations though.

1) Dryad's Quest - This is probably THE closest you can get in terms of quality, the crux is that you cannot play as a male MC, only female or futa.

More importantly you can only really play as sub which largely kills my interest. You can use your (excessively limited) resources to make people want to fuck you but they'll still insult you and the character will still just take that. There's no real choice in dryad beyond 'have a sex scene with this dude now or another dude later' and picking which hole they fuck. This means you're constantly missing scenes because you dared to do something lewd earlier in the game about being lewd.

Pretty much everything outside of tits/coc tends to either offer too much freedom (ie this, where all sex feels the same; unholy arts also has excel sheet sex) or too little (the ones where you can't even pick gender).

 

[HimaKira]

Anyone knows where the file for Rose's Fertility is? Changed her Lilaya's_Dungeon > Dominant sex to Resisting submissive sex (and also changed dialog+txt to match) but she can't get pregnant for some reason (even with broodmother pill and yes my character has maxed virility)... (unless you export her data and buy her at the slave auction)

And if anyone can tell me where is Vicky's (Arcane Arts) Files Regarding her Dominant/Nervously leave sex (not the dialog or txt) would be greatly appreciated.

edit: nvm, looks like both files are inside the complied exe.file and not on the outside res folder.