Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Yeppers34]

Wow almost a whole week with no one here saying anything, has everyone's interest and frustration finally peter out

 

[braveliltoaster]

Wow almost a whole week with no one here saying anything, has everyone's interest and frustration finally peter out

Well now you ruined the streak

 

[sehdal]

honestly i feel like inno just does not want to work on this game anymore and is forcing herself to add tiny little alterations until she has enough for an update every four months . and it's fine that she doesn't want to work on this game anymore - she's been working on it for years now . the burnout doesnt surprise me . it just sucks that she's still getting supporter money while delivering nothing . i think she should just hand off development cuz atp this game clearly isn't good for her mental heath & the supporters are spending money on nothing

Why every nswf game developers has mentall illness?

 

[CaptainBipto]

Wow almost a whole week with no one here saying anything, has everyone's interest and frustration finally peter out

Pretty much.
People have vented their spleen, their bladder, their brains, and anything else they wanted to dump on this thread and on the developer.

They have exhausted themselves of invectives to hurl at the developer and they need to take a break, to rest and recover and go into complete radio silence because they 'just got so stressed out' from all the slings and arrows they have hurled .... or they could just be reloading for another round.

 

[Kallumin]

The last patch was like 3 months ago, which isn't even a particularly long time to wait for a new LT patch. Inno has been glacially slow to update for years now, what more is there to say that hasn't been said a dozen times already?

 

[Draupnir7]

that hasn't been said a dozen times already?

Or that will not be said a dozen times more the next time it happens?

 

[Elicusneh]

This game's combat is so stupidly broken that it amuses me how an RPG with a lot of build variety and customization which had a lot of thought put into it can get so unbalanced.

Like just a few one of the most broken things imagineable.

• Giving yourself extra-arms increases AP as you are attacking with more limbs this is a detriment since some criticals require using specific attacks in sequences and the extra damage per limb doesn't add up to criticals. To counter that you can use all-out attacks to deal insanely stupid amounts of damage for no real cost as the AP cost does not increase for all out-attacks.
• Firebombs can be obtained pretty early on - they deal insanely high amounts of AOE fire damage. The game only gives you 10 at start but if you find a shopkeeper that can remake them you can get an infinite number of firebombs for basically no real cost as they are dirt cheap.
• Guns are incredibly powerful, having quite a few skills that deal a LOT of damage - but they cost essence to fire, which is used for a lot of the crafting, modifying and etcetera. This would be a problem but using the sadist fetish gives you back essence for attacking enemies, in some cases you're left NET POSITIVE in essence wise after firing a gun.
• You can get a trait which allows you to one-shot any imp.
• Combat regeneration regens 5% of your hp for free with no real downside.
• Elementals existing.
• Any sort of AP removal move like witch's seal and flash can gimp enemies aslong as you have enough aura to spam it.

And I am pretty sure there's even more broken and busted combinations that one could use. This game's combat balancing is horrible.

 

[sgb3]

This game's combat is so stupidly broken that it amuses me how an RPG with a lot of build variety and customization which had a lot of thought put into it can get so unbalanced.

That's easy, just never attempt to balance anything and only nerf/remove mechanics. Elementals are hilariously busted for an essentially free spell because Inno removed companions, as she didn't want to have to balance the game around having multiple party members. But you can still have a party member with the elemental, so it just trivializes combat by giving you a regenerating meat shield in a game 'balanced' around all out damage. I'm sure the 2036 version will address it. By removing elementals from the game.

 

[Draupnir7]

This game's combat is so stupidly broken that it amuses me how an RPG with a lot of build variety and customization which had a lot of thought put into it can get so unbalanced.
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And I am pretty sure there's even more broken and busted combinations that one could use. This game's combat balancing is horrible.

Which is fine. This is first and foremost a porn game. And it is built around a potential power fantasy if what we have of the story so far is anything to go by.
That is not to say that I do not have topic-relevant complaints, but mine center around spells or seduction NOT being the better combat methods in the game where orgasms are literally magic.

she didn't want to have to balance the game around having multiple party members.

I recall the reason was due to companions bogging down the game during sex scenes. And if the tales of the code-jockeys in the thread are anything to go by... yeah, that makes sense.

I could not tell you what this game needs more, main story updates or a code revamp in a new engine. But the combat, for the time being, is fine if exploitable.

 

[KaiSakurai]

I could not tell you what this game needs more, main story updates or a code revamp in a new engine.

 

[Arkus86]

I recall the reason was due to companions bogging down the game during sex scenes. And if the tales of the code-jockeys in the thread are anything to go by... yeah, that makes sense.

As I recall the reason most commonly thrown around is that most of the game simply does not account for having a party member - it assumes you are alone, and rather than changing existing content to accommodate possible party members and accounting for it in all future scenes too, simply disabling the feature was the quick and easy fix. It can still be enabled, there's just a warning any support for it was dropped, so it's stuck with the content it had by 0.3.9.

And that said, even if it does bog down the sex engine, the games' performance never seemed to be Inno's focus.

 

[Yeppers34]

I could not tell you what this game needs more, main story updates or a code revamp in a new engine. But the combat, for the time being, is fine if exploitable.

What this game really needs...is to finally finish the shadow and silence content.

 

[Elicusneh]

Which is fine. This is first and foremost a porn game. And it is built around a potential power fantasy if what we have of the story so far is anything to go by.
That is not to say that I do not have topic-relevant complaints, but mine center around spells or seduction NOT being the better combat methods in the game where orgasms are literally magic.

It kinda boggles my mind that this game doesn't have battle-fuck mechanics. Being able to force opponents into orgasms, using spells that focus on bringing enemies to pleasure, constricting to leave them helpless, the ability to play into one's fetishes with possible illusion or arcane magic is a missed opportunity.

I do like the magic system and how the arcane works but that's because I enjoy magic systems as a whole. It fits a nice power-fantasy of being a strong magician even if said power fantasy does somewhat conflict with the world and climaxing like a mad bitch being the way to get stronger.

 

[TheeSonus]

It kinda boggles my mind that this game doesn't have battle-fuck mechanics. Being able to force opponents into orgasms, using spells that focus on bringing enemies to pleasure, constricting to leave them helpless, the ability to play into one's fetishes with possible illusion or arcane magic is a missed opportunity.

I do like the magic system and how the arcane works but that's because I enjoy magic systems as a whole. It fits a nice power-fantasy of being a strong magician even if said power fantasy does somewhat conflict with the world and climaxing like a mad bitch being the way to get stronger.

at risk of being a pedantic fuck, you in fact CAN constrict your enemies, assuming you have a snake lower half. do it three times and they instantly lose, iirc. don't remember how much AP it costs because fuck if I know how long I haven't actually played the game for. but I remember you can do that.

or maybe you can't and only npcs can do that. I just saw my elemental do it once. never actually did it myself because I go the "gigachad human" route and never transform myself. dunno. but it is certainly one of the two.

but anyways, you can do that one specific thing. don't know about the other things though.

 

[quadangle]

I don't really want this game's combat to be "balanced" tbh, not without a big rework of gameplay as a whole anyway. there's so many people you have to fight through the second you step out of the safe areas that it feels like wading through a swamp, if each battle takes more than 1 turn it's an even bigger waste of your time than normal

 

[MisterPinkie]

at risk of being a pedantic fuck, you in fact CAN constrict your enemies, assuming you have a snake lower half. do it three times and they instantly lose, iirc. don't remember how much AP it costs because fuck if I know how long I haven't actually played the game for. but I remember you can do that.

or maybe you can't and only npcs can do that. I just saw my elemental do it once. never actually did it myself because I go the "gigachad human" route and never transform myself. dunno. but it is certainly one of the two.

but anyways, you can do that one specific thing. don't know about the other things though.

To add to the pedantry, equipping a witch broom gives you access to the witch seal skill, which binds the target with tentacles. The Halloween chapels even have a semi-unique sex option on win, and I'm pretty sure you can cast it during any sex scene you have control in to bind the target.

 

[Shadow mage]

So my game almost crashes whenever i enter or exit a new place, i was wondering if this problem is an AMD adrenalin thing or just the current state of the game

 

[Draupnir7]

So my game almost crashes whenever i enter or exit a new place, i was wondering if this problem is an AMD adrenalin thing or just the current state of the game

That may be incompatibility. What version are you using?

 

[Edelvays]

This game's combat is so stupidly broken that it amuses me how an RPG with a lot of build variety and customization which had a lot of thought put into it can get so unbalanced.

Like just a few one of the most broken things imagineable.

• Giving yourself extra-arms increases AP as you are attacking with more limbs this is a detriment since some criticals require using specific attacks in sequences and the extra damage per limb doesn't add up to criticals. To counter that you can use all-out attacks to deal insanely stupid amounts of damage for no real cost as the AP cost does not increase for all out-attacks.
• Firebombs can be obtained pretty early on - they deal insanely high amounts of AOE fire damage. The game only gives you 10 at start but if you find a shopkeeper that can remake them you can get an infinite number of firebombs for basically no real cost as they are dirt cheap.
• Guns are incredibly powerful, having quite a few skills that deal a LOT of damage - but they cost essence to fire, which is used for a lot of the crafting, modifying and etcetera. This would be a problem but using the sadist fetish gives you back essence for attacking enemies, in some cases you're left NET POSITIVE in essence wise after firing a gun.
• You can get a trait which allows you to one-shot any imp.
• Combat regeneration regens 5% of your hp for free with no real downside.
• Elementals existing.
• Any sort of AP removal move like witch's seal and flash can gimp enemies aslong as you have enough aura to spam it.

And I am pretty sure there's even more broken and busted combinations that one could use. This game's combat balancing is horrible.

To be fair, balancing numbers is very difficult when you have so many of them. Companies have special teams for that

 

[Shadow mage]

That may be incompatibility. What version are you using?

I assume you're asking about the version of the game itself, which is 0.4.11.3 Alpha.

And the Adrenalin version that i am using is 25.9.1, which is the latest version.

my chipset drivers are also updated to the latest version.

I tried running the .jre version of the game but honestly i kinda don't wanna fill out the long ass form that oracle wants you to do