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is that enough .. or do you really want to write it 100 times .. ok now i feel like i'm back 60 years ago and wrote something incorrectly and at the chalkboard told to write it 100 times so i get it right next time :ROFLMAO:
 

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The 1911 is a single-action-only pistol. What that means is that the hammer has to be cocked (pulled back and locked in place) for it to fire. Pulling the trigger only performs a single action, namely releasing the hammer from its cocked position. Hence the name.
In a SAO pistol this must be done manually by the user, either by racking the slide, or physically pulling the hammer back until it locks back (its usually done when loading a magazine and dropping the slide). At that point pulling the trigger releases the hammer which contacts the firing pin and fires the gun. The action then slides back with gas pressure and recoil, racking the slide and automatically locking the hammer back for the next shot.

If the hammer isn't locked back, the trigger being pulled doesn't accomplish anything, since it's purpose is to release the lock holding back the hammer.

The alternative system would be a double-action/single-action. In that case (such as with a Beretta 92 / M9) pulling the trigger will both pull back and release the hammer. Note that the hammer-down uncocked trigger pull is heavier (more finger pressure is required) than the subsequent single-action pull.

There's also such a thing as a double-action-only, but those are mostly revolvers. There's the odd DAO pistol, but they're not terribly popular as the DA/SA system is generally seen as superior.

As an aside, a lot of people think it's unsafe to carry a pistol with the hammer locked, but for the 1911 that's the proper way to carry it, with the safety on. Otherwise you end up in exactly the situation shown in the screenshot.

Edited for clarity and a typo


I see, indeed, a problem for some :p
 

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The 1911 is a single-action-only pistol. What that means is that the hammer has to be cocked (pulled back and locked in place) for it to fire. Pulling the trigger only performs a single action, namely releasing the hammer from its cocked position. Hence the name.
Sorry, friend, but that is incorrect. The M1911 or Colt Government in the case of Colt-produced models) is a single-action, recoil-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered primarily for the .45 ACP. This means you have to cock the hammer for the first round. After that the next round is chambered and the hammer is re-cocked by the recoil action on the receiver. Sorry, I used that weapon in the USMC and it's one of the best semi-automatic pistols ever built. So, I just couldn't let it go...
 
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Sorry, friend, but that is incorrect. The M1911 or Colt Government in the case of Colt-produced models) is a single-action, recoil-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered primarily for the .45 ACP. This means you have to cock the hammer for the first round. After that the next round is chambered and the hammer is re-cocked by the recoil action on the receiver. Sorry, I used that weapon in the USMC and it's one of the best semi-automatic pistols ever built. So, I just couldn't let it go...
I'm gonna butcher the LRH quote here, but the "1911 is best sidearm ever made"... don't have the screenshot saved.
 
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Sorry, friend, but that is incorrect. The M1911 or Colt Government in the case of Colt-produced models) is a single-action, recoil-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered primarily for the .45 ACP. This means you have to cock the hammer for the first round. After that the next round is chambered and the hammer is re-cocked by the recoil action on the receiver. Sorry, I used that weapon in the USMC and it's one of the best semi-automatic pistols ever built. So, I just couldn't let it go...
But that doesn't change the fact that in the image, he hasn't fired a shot, has left himself exposed and close to the target, and hasn't cocked the hammer.
 
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Sorry, friend, but that is incorrect. The M1911 or Colt Government in the case of Colt-produced models) is a single-action, recoil-operated, semi-automatic pistol chambered primarily for the .45 ACP. This means you have to cock the hammer for the first round. After that the next round is chambered and the hammer is re-cocked by the recoil action on the receiver. Sorry, I used that weapon in the USMC and it's one of the best semi-automatic pistols ever built. So, I just couldn't let it go...
Yeah, just re-read my post and it does read like I said it has to be manually done every shot. I was referring to the first shot specifically if the hammer was down (and I clarified that in later posts / DMs). Good catch though, and my bad. In my defense I was posting from bed. :ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah, just re-read my post and it does read like I said it has to be manually done every shot. I was referring to the first shot specifically if the hammer was down (and I clarified that in later posts / DMs). Good catch though, and my bad. In my defense I was posting from bed. :ROFLMAO:
Hehe, yeah, which also could mean he hasn't even chambered a round. When you first insert a mag, normally, you pull back the receiver once to chamber a round, and then ease the hammer back down. Although, since he's a vet he likely does what I did. Chamber a round, eject the mag, add another round from your pocket, and re-insert the mag. Now, you're good to go for 8 shots instead of 7 (on the standard issue mag).
 
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Hehe, yeah, which also could mean he hasn't even chambered a round. When you first insert a mag, normally, you pull back the receiver once to chamber a round, and then ease the hammer back down. Although, since he's a vet he likely does what I did. Chamber a round, eject the mag, add another round from your pocket, and re-insert the mag. Now, you're good to go for 8 shots instead of 7 (on the standard issue mag).
he also doesn't need no gun when he has his trusty brass knuckles :ROFLMAO:
 
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Hehe, yeah, which also could mean he hasn't even chambered a round. When you first insert a mag, normally, you pull back the receiver once to chamber a round, and then ease the hammer back down. Although, since he's a vet he likely does what I did. Chamber a round, eject the mag, add another round from your pocket, and re-insert the mag. Now, you're good to go for 8 shots instead of 7 (on the standard issue mag).
Unless you're using one of those weird models with a magazine safety that stops you from inserting the mag with the slide down or from dropping the slide without a loaded mag inserted. I know for a fact Para does that since I own one of theirs. :ROFLMAO:

Can't have you topping off soldier. You'll make do with your 7 rounds of anti-cow projectile!
 

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Aren't there modern 1911 look a likes with modern mechanisms?
I think a guy I gamed with years ago had a 1911 style gun and a 1911 style compact gun for his wife.
 
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