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It's been a long time since I haven't played the game and it seems some stuff have changed (some positives like golden whore outfit having no limitation, some negatives like the Mage's water spell being the exact same as Deepone Lona's water spell), not much new contents sadly, and there's that Role Play mod that caught my interest. Also the ennemies hit much slower which is kind of a bummer for me but I guess that will make the game more accessible for beginners.
 

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Ill try maybe to mess with weak and sexy stats more. But even when I tried awakened Lona, which gives you 1000 of both, after I juiced someone, they all got aggressive. as far as I remember.
Them getting aggressive means that you're playing on a difficulty that isn't HARD mode.
 
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It's actually the low difficulty (HARD) that makes the Succubus run a breeze. There's actually lotsa stuffs that are made pretty easy in HARD mode compared to higher difficulties, like food/ingredient not spoiling, breastmilk never spilling out when it becomes full, etc etc. I'm not really sure if things have changed since the last time I played during v0.8 of the game, but try to raise the difficulty to HELL or DOOM and you'll notice that the ennemies will start attacking you once one sees that you killed its pal through juicing, and in DOOM mode, once an enemy sees you as a threat, it will always see you as a threat, even if you clear the aggro that made you be seen as such, until you exit the map. Also there's some unique ennemy AI reaction in DOOM mode where, for example, in that place where the goblins are having an orgy with the prisoners, if you so much as alert one of them, all of the goblins group will start killing the prisoners instead of fucking them.

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I'll see if Difficulty really does make a difference in the AI since I checked the Wiki (Miraheze) and found there weren't much changes in HELL (Food Spoilage, Lengthened Pregnancy, and Inability to Leave Are while in Combat), but DOOM is essentially Ironman LonaRPG (Only autosave, Death = Save Delete, 3 Ingame Month Pregnancy, and Food Spoils faster)
 
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I'll see if Difficulty really does make a difference in the AI since I checked the Wiki (Miraheze) and found there weren't much changes in HELL (Food Spoilage, Lengthened Pregnancy, and Inability to Leave Are while in Combat), but DOOM is essentially Ironman LonaRPG (Only autosave, Death = Save Delete, 3 Ingame Month Pregnancy, and Food Spoils faster)
There's myriad of hidden elements and mechanics in the game that aren't told in the wiki, so yeah it's worth testing out yourself.
 

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Like many others here I got problems making a succubus built work. You seem quite experienced, could you give me some early game tips?

2 enemies usually means defeat, as stamina drains rather quickly.

How to get enough weakness? What traits and stats to focus on first?
Ehh not exactly experienced but a little knowledgeable.
Dirt, Creampies, and Bukkakes increase weakness the easiest, though the Rag Clothing set also improves your weakness (although decrease sexy, I'm not sure if sexy increases Sex ATK though).
The clothes I'm wearing (Accessory, Mid, and Bottom) is the Golden Dress set which increases your Weak even higher and Sexy whilst decreasing your Dirty (compensating for your inability to gain Dirty btw). There's another Clothing set (Whore or Dancer set) which yields a little less Sexy and keeps you clean, but decreases your Weak and gives you extra SPD.
There's also Piercings which increase your Sexy and Weak further.

Have Blue and Red Pots at all times just in case, use them whenever you can, and figuring out Sex Battle so you can easily kill folks you're juicing.

Simple build, focus on CONstitution for Nymphomaniac, Prostitute, and/or Succubus, the latter of which is your weapon. If you're starting out your run without Rebirth, it's recommended you go to the Burning Keg Inn and farm XP and Coins by being a Dancer and masturbating for as long as you can go (buy a Key to go to -100 without being kicked out and get yourself back to full), I know the latter provides XP and apparently increases for each Succubus Trait but I haven't verified it yet.
Go for 15-20 CON before taking some points in WISdom (5-10) so you can start gathering more Herbs (possibly craft Blue and Red Pots too). Afterwards, just get as much CON as possible (44-45 iIrc is the sweet spot) and you should be relatively golden.
 

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There's myriad of hidden elements and mechanics in the game that aren't told in the wiki, so yeah it's worth testing out yourself.
Does the AI immediately switch to the selected Difficulty upon selection, or do I need to re-enter a hostile area (exit map and then enter map; exit map, wait a day, and enter map)?
 
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Also there's some unique ennemy AI reaction in DOOM mode where, for example, in that place where the goblins are having an orgy with the prisoners, if you so much as alert one of them, all of the goblins group will start killing the prisoners instead of fucking them.
Huh, I was wondering about that, since I've known that in HARD they can occasinally go berserk but ever since I started playing on DOOM I've noticed I have to be really quick if I want to rescue any prisoners before they beat them to death.
 
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Huh, I was wondering about that, since I've known that in HARD they can occasinally go berserk but ever since I started playing on DOOM I've noticed I have to be really quick if I want to rescue any prisoners before they beat them to death.
In HARD mode, they don't go berserk if you kill them through juicing or sex. The only time they go berserk in that mode is if you break out of their grab, since breaking out of it means you hit them, hence why they start attacking you.
 
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It's actually the low difficulty (HARD) that makes the Succubus run a breeze. There's actually lotsa stuffs that are made pretty easy in HARD mode compared to higher difficulties, like food/ingredient not spoiling, breastmilk never spilling out when it becomes full, etc etc. I'm not really sure if things have changed since the last time I played during v0.8 of the game, but try to raise the difficulty to HELL or DOOM and you'll notice that the ennemies will start attacking you once one sees that you killed its pal through juicing, and in DOOM mode, once an enemy sees you as a threat, it will always see you as a threat, even if you clear the aggro that made you be seen as such, until you exit the map. Also there's some unique ennemy AI reaction in DOOM mode where, for example, in that place where the goblins are having an orgy with the prisoners, if you so much as alert one of them, all of the goblins group will start killing the prisoners instead of fucking them.

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Thats actually really cool and interesting. Really makes trying the harder difficulties more worthwhile. Too bad we arent told that in game. Didnt play much of doom mode because the ai made an ironmode plathrough maddening, so random and unpredictible when you cant reload a save for important story missions.
 

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The effect of the new selected difficulty should get in place right away.
Alright, just tried the same mission with the same build in HELL difficulty and you would be right, Juicing in HELL draws aggro from enemies upon witnessing a kill! Though I still found the mission a cakewalk tbh, did it naked the entire time and, though I did have a bit of a close call from attempting the gangbang method again, I was smooth sailing the entire time. Didn't really use much potions either aside from a few blues and most of my reds (though mostly for SPD and to not see my Lona too beat up)
 
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Alright, just tried the same mission with the same build in HELL difficulty and you would be right, Juicing in HELL draws aggro from enemies upon witnessing a kill! Though I still found the mission a cakewalk tbh, did it naked the entire time and, though I did have a bit of a close call from attempting the gangbang method again, I was smooth sailing the entire time. Didn't really use much potions either aside from a few blues and most of my reds (though mostly for SPD and to not see my Lona too beat up)
Good to hear. That mission isn't exactly all that difficult since it mainly involves scouting for surviving people and then get out of the map. As much as Succubus build can be a force to be reckoned with in its own merit, there's certain content that this build can't do unless you use a bomb, like
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Good to hear. That mission isn't exactly all that difficult since it mainly involves scouting for surviving people and then get out of the map. As much as Succubus build can be a force to be reckoned with in its own merit, there's certain content that this build can't do unless you use a bomb, like
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Aaaaand I've finished it again without much issue.
It's a little more tedious and I do like the challenge of being unable to open the menu whilst fighting (really makes planning ahead or having Blue and Red Pots on hand paramount!), but I didn't find it anymore difficult than if you were in HARD mode aside from enemies being disillusioned a little faster.

That said, yeahhhh, not saying Succubus Lona is the end all be all- I'd be fucked if it were against the
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. Of course, getting outnumbered and cornered is always a bad time.
But is it borderline unplayable, or one of the most difficult builds to play? Nah.

Note: When I say "finished," I mean "killed/juiced everything"
 
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Aaaaand I've finished it again without much issue.
It's a little more tedious and I do like the challenge of being unable to open the menu whilst fighting (really makes planning ahead or having Blue and Red Pots on hand paramount!), but I didn't find it anymore difficult than if you were in HARD mode aside from enemies being disillusioned a little faster.

That said, yeahhhh, not saying Succubus Lona is the end all be all- I'd be fucked if it were against the
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. Of course, getting outnumbered and cornered is always a bad time.
But is it borderline unplayable, or one of the most difficult builds to play? Nah.

Note: When I say "finished," I mean "killed/juiced everything"
If you love challenge, I recommend downloading a mod called SURVIVAL mod. This mod pushes your thinking limit to the extreme and tests your knowledge of the entire game, the mod maker even suggest that you play this mod ONLY if you're familiar enough with the game's mechanics. So give it a try when you can.
 
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Alright, just tried the same mission with the same build in HELL difficulty and you would be right, Juicing in HELL draws aggro from enemies upon witnessing a kill! Though I still found the mission a cakewalk tbh, did it naked the entire time and, though I did have a bit of a close call from attempting the gangbang method again, I was smooth sailing the entire time. Didn't really use much potions either aside from a few blues and most of my reds (though mostly for SPD and to not see my Lona too beat up)
I mean, that mission is extremelly early game, and you have extremelly late game build. Stealth missions against humans and fishmen are way more difficult, they alert very quickly, in some they alert immediatly, you can just use mines to trim their numbers, like in broadblade gang Cecily mission. They give the alert instantenously.
 

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I mean, that mission is extremelly early game, and you have extremelly late game build. Stealth missions against humans and fishmen are way more difficult, they alert very quickly, in some they alert immediatly, you can just use mines to trim their numbers, like in broadblade gang Cecily mission. They give the alert instantenously.
In that mission in particular, I started it after alerting everyone.
I've already mentioned that I had done so in Cecily's missions and find them just as easy, though the second-to-the-last mission is the hardest due to it being in a semi-closed space.
I've done the same in the
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as well as some water caves, still don't find them difficult; alot more easier due to it being fairly open-spaced, with the only issue being overwhelmed by attracting too many Deep Ones.
Again, I always went in, alerted everyone, fucked everyone to death, and then went away.

On another note, considering whether to go Survival Mod first, or Roleplay S cuz... it kewl
 

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On another note, considering whether to go Survival Mod first, or Roleplay S cuz... it kewl
I'm checking out Roleplay S as it's updated to the current version now and so far it's fascinating. There are some new traits that seem highly specialized (and probably ridiculously broken, though with high requirements and some heavy penalties), some gimmick traits like the one that prevents you from equipping weapons but gives you some new skills and a hefty ATK bonus, or the one that locks you out from every other trait but gives you 2 trait points per level (there seems to be some new non-high quality weapons to help that out, like the shortbow which is like just a worse longbow).

But the most interesting thing I've noticed so far is how they rebalanced XP gain. XP from quests have been nerfed (my usual starting routine of 2 crystal cave cleanup with the deep one artillery and then repairing it brought me only to 10 while in vanilla it's enough to boost me to 15 immediately), but killing enemies are actually giving you XP now, with tougher enemies giving more. So far looks like this might make leveling more gradual and might allow one to level lategame organically, instead of you being able to skyrocket to around 25-30ish, after which you're forced to spam masturbate/prisoner rescue to get a decent amount of XP.
 
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