Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[Crel]

Should I still investigate the 3 clues in the library, even though I want to unlock the Primrose dungeon route?

Yeah, you'll need them at some point. If you want Prim arrested just don't present your findings to Samarra

 

[Zontany]

Yeah, you'll need them at some point. If you want Prim arrested just don't present your findings to Samarra

Do you know if the dungeon is available in this update?

 

[Crel]

Do you know if the dungeon is available in this update?

If you're on .10 then yeah, it is. You can meet and speak with Prim down there if she gets taken in. Have to get there by talking to Samarra, and it opens up another remove inhibition option on Samarra.

 

[Revo]

At some point, sure. I have barely enough time to push out monthly releases as it is, so don't expect it anything right now. That's something that it's more likely that I'll add after the game is complete.

Thanks for the reply

 

[kansasdude]

anything new (stat/abilities wise) coming in 0.11

 

[Belle]

anything new (stat/abilities wise) coming in 0.11

Probably not. We're getting close to some more ability building, but I'm focusing on smaller, more fun things this time around.

 

[Steve70]

Here's a weird thought or fucked up twist...

Should all of that be in a spoiler tag?

 

[sloppy gonzo]

@Belle Just realised something. Old releases went as far as 0.6 before going down to 0.10. Was I blind and missed a zero or did you realise you were further away from finishing the game than you first thought?

 

[Belle]

@Belle Just realised something. Old releases went as far as 0.6 before going down to 0.10. Was I blind and missed a zero or did you realise you were further away from finishing the game than you first thought?

None of those options. 10 is a larger value than 6. You're making the mistake of assuming that just because there's a dot in there, it's a decimal number. It's not. If it helps, read the entire version number: 0.10.0. Now it doesn't look like a decimal number any more. These are merely 3 different values separated by dots.

I can easily see why you're confused about it though. I went back and forth with it in my head for several months before I decided to just plow ahead regardless. It's not a mistake, but in hindsight, I should have used a different way of showing version numbers that wouldn't confuse non-programmers in particular.

Edit: Just to be perfectly clear, once and for all: The version numbers for LLtP have never indicated, and will never indicate, distance to the final release. They only indicate how far we are from the first release. Separate your mind from decimals and percentages.

 

[sloppy gonzo]

None of those options. 10 is a larger value than 6. You're making the mistake of assuming that just because there's a dot in there, it's a decimal number. It's not. If it helps, read the entire version number: 0.10.0. Now it doesn't look like a decimal number any more. These are merely 3 different values separated by dots.

I can easily see why you're confused about it though. I went back and forth with it in my head for several months before I decided to just plow ahead regardless. It's not a mistake, but in hindsight, I should have used a different way of showing version numbers that wouldn't confuse non-programmers in particular.

Edit: Just to be perfectly clear, once and for all: The version numbers for LLtP have never indicated, and will never indicate, distance to the final release. They only indicate how far we are from the first release. Separate your mind from decimals and percentages.

Well that's put me in my place lol. I was think the numbering system now would put it like around pre-alpha stage when with the content you've put in, it's gone way beyond that and other games with similar numbering formats.

Good to know it doesn't need to be version 1.00. you'll simply tell us when you've finished. That settles that 'mystery' for me.

Adding any video animations in future?

 

[zazzaro]

Programmers are so weird.

 

[Belle]

I was think the numbering system now would put it like around pre-alpha stage when with the content you've put in, it's gone way beyond that and other games with similar numbering formats.

I don't subscribe to the way AAA publishers have turned terms like "alpha" and "beta" into marketing slogans this past decade, making something sound more exclusive than if they simply called it a "demo." I use the classic definition of these terms: A game has reached Alpha when it's feature complete (from then on out it's all about perfecting those features and fixing bugs). It has reached Beta when it's ready for external testing. Those definitions don't fit with the iterative development schedule I use for LLtP, since each "iteration" (ie. update) is fully developed and tested in its own right. We're going to go directly from "pre-alpha" to "final" the day I pull the trigger and call one of my releases 1.0.0.

Good to know it doesn't need to be version 1.00. you'll simply tell us when you've finished.

Indeed. You'll have a pretty good idea of when we're getting close to that though, because the end-game itself is probably going to occupy a few updates alone.

Programmers are so weird.

I know you mean it tongue-in-cheek, but what's really happened is that gamers in particular are so interested in how game development works that a kind of bastardized version of programmer lingo has become part of regular lingo, and it causes all kinds of confusion since the two don't always match up perfectly (with regular lingo heavily influenced by marketing). Using the kind of versioning I did for LLtP was business as usual for me, but I didn't take into consideration (enough, anyway) the idea that some of my own expectations and language won't match up with the expectations and language of the players.

The version numbers for LLtP work like this:

The first value represents the major version of the game. It will always be either 0 or 1. 0 means the game isn't finished. 1 means it is. That doesn't mean development will stop at that point, but anyone playing it when the first value is 1 will experience a complete game.

The second value started at 1 and increases by 1 for each new minor (ie. monthly) release I put out. I broke that with the second version of this game, when I was still figuring things out, but I've followed this system since then.

The third value represents hotfixes. It resets to 0 with each monthly release, and increases by 1 whenever I put out a minor update that does nothing but fix bugs.

Some developers think of the 0.1 to 1.0 scale as a kind of percentage value. If the version is 0.3, their game is 30% done. The result is that most of them start increasing version numbers by smaller and smaller values for every update they put out, making the whole thing rather confusing. With LLtP, the version numbers should always be predictable and logical. In other words, if you see something like LLtP version 0.10.1 (a version that doesn't exist, thankfully), it means that it's the 10th monthly release of the game (disregarding the 0.15 anomaly that was the second release) and that it includes a hotfix for a bug that cropped up in that version.

 

[zazzaro]

I know you mean it tongue-in-cheek, but what's really happened is that gamers in particular are so interested in how game development works that a kind of bastardized version of programmer lingo has become part of regular lingo, and it causes all kinds of confusion since the two don't always match up perfectly (with regular lingo heavily influenced by marketing). Using the kind of versioning I did for LLtP was business as usual for me, but I didn't take into consideration (enough, anyway) the idea that some of my own expectations and language won't match up with the expectations and language of the players.

The version numbers for LLtP work like this:

The first value represents the major version of the game. It will always be either 0 or 1. 0 means the game isn't finished. 1 means it is. That doesn't mean development will stop at that point, but anyone playing it when the first value is 1 will experience a complete game.

The second value started at 1 and increases by 1 for each new minor (ie. monthly) release I put out. I broke that with the second version of this game, when I was still figuring things out, but I've followed this system since then.

The third value represents hotfixes. It resets to 0 with each monthly release, and increases by 1 whenever I put out a minor update that does nothing but fix bugs.

Some developers think of the 0.1 to 1.0 scale as a kind of percentage value. If the version is 0.3, their game is 30% done. The result is that most of them start increasing version numbers by smaller and smaller values for every update they put out, making the whole thing rather confusing. With LLtP, the version numbers should always be predictable and logical. In other words, if you see something like LLtP version 0.10.1 (a version that doesn't exist, thankfully), it means that it's the 10th monthly release of the game (disregarding the 0.15 anomaly that was the second release) and that it includes a hotfix for a bug that cropped up in that version.

I did not mean for me actually as I'm studying to be a programmer, but you still got to admit that we are a weird bunch. Like it's natural now, but starting to count from 0 with my first arrays was... weird.

That said your way of assigning version number is actually the most common I feel, which is always a good thing.

 

[buwamo]

I want more scene with Nelle

 

[baneini]

I never understood why boob jobs are a thing. It's an anime porn trope isn't it? I guess the joke is it's a petite character doing the boob job. Anyway it's a turn off for me, I'd just want the characters to do something more useful with their time.

 

[zazzaro]

Looks like some quality time to me honestly.

 

[Belle]

It's an anime porn trope isn't it?

What? How could you possibly think that? It's been a part of porn and people's sexual lives for ages.

I guess the joke is it's a petite character doing the boob job.

It's not a joke.

 

[baneini]

What? How could you possibly think that? It's been a part of porn and people's sexual lives for ages.

It's positionally awkward rubbing of dry skin on penis, might as well use the back of her knee or armpit. Why not use hands or mouth if your plan is just making the guy have an orgasm.

 

[Belle]

It's positionally awkward rubbing of dry skin on penis, might as well use the back of her knee or armpit. Why not use hands or mouth if your plan is just making the guy have an orgasm.

This game uses the porn approach to sex. In other words, there's no need for stuff like lube. If it helps, imagine that Primrose's breasts are lubed in that scene. The same goes for things like anal scenes.

But I get it. You don't get off from boobjob scenes. That's a shame for you since you obviously didn't like the main scene from that update, but it won't change anything in the game itself or in its development. I just want to make that clear. It would be pretty amazing if everyone liked all the kinks games like these explored all the time, but that's just not the case. I explore lots of different concepts in this game, and it's not always going to be up your alley. That's fine. Just move on and let others enjoy the scene. There will be other scenes in the game that you are likely to enjoy more than others, so it goes both ways.

 

[kansasdude]

It's positionally awkward rubbing of dry skin on penis, might as well use the back of her knee or armpit. Why not use hands or mouth if your plan is just making the guy have an orgasm.

This game uses the porn approach to sex. In other words, there's no need for stuff like lube. If it helps, imagine that Primrose's breasts are lubed in that scene. The same goes for things like anal scenes.

But I get it. You don't get off from boobjob scenes. That's a shame for you since you obviously didn't like the main scene from that update, but it won't change anything in the game itself or in its development. I just want to make that clear. It would be pretty amazing if everyone liked all the kinks games like these explored all the time, but that's just not the case. I explore lots of different concepts in this game, and it's not always going to be up your alley. That's fine. Just move on and let others enjoy the scene. There will be other scenes in the game that you are likely to enjoy more than others, so it goes both ways.

What he probably means by awkward rubbing of dry skin on penis is it's kind of like rubbing 2 things not lubricated together