Ren'Py Completed Long Live the Princess [v1.0.1] [Belle]

[fitgirlbestgirl]

And its easy for you to say that, but at the end of the day, you're not the one at risk of losing a sizeable source of income.

The only cases of games getting in trouble for incest are if it's right there in the game without having to do anything or if you literally promote the incest patch on your Patreon like a retard. To my knowledge, there isn't a single case of a game getting banned from Patreon just for having an incest patch.

And how could there be? You can't hold devs accountable for what some weirdo mods into the game. I can make a mod right now replacing all the character's dialogue in the game with quotes from Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf, does that mean the dev is a Nazi? Should Patreon take action? As long as the dev isn't seen to be creating or endorsing such a modification there really isn't much they can do.

Now, you could argue most incest games are so thinly disguised that it's obvious that they are supposed to be incest games and obviously Patreon knows that too. Which just reinforces my point. They don't actually give a shit, as long as the incest isn't right there, hosted on their servers.

 

[Thermophob]

The only cases of games getting in trouble for incest are if it's right there in the game without having to do anything or if you literally promote the incest patch on your Patreon like a retard. To my knowledge, there isn't a single case of a game getting banned from Patreon just for having an incest patch.

I think you are right. There is case where MaimLain was suspended, but she got genial idea to post her incest patches on Patreon...

 

[Dragon59]

Dragon59 I've honestly spent a few minutes trying to remember which girls in the game have a sister before I realized what you're talking about

personally I'd avoid talking about anything that Patreon might find bad except Evelyn for now. I don't want to accidentally give them any ideas on what else might need to be changed, creating more work for Belle and delaying the endgame even further. they don't necessarily play the game, so if they see someone posting a screenshot where MC says that Evelyn and Aldred are lovers, they don't know if this relationship is a part of the game or it's just your character saying stupid stuff. for any Patreon staff reading, it's the latter, right after this dialogue line Evelyn says that she hates incest as much as you guys do

That's one reason I merely said "the sisters," instead of naming them.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

The new Evelyn is progressing well. I haven't started writing her yet, but I've been mapping out her basic storyline and setting up every beat to match the existing beats. If I can pull this off correctly, I believe people will find her story to be both satisfying and delightfully naughty. This won't be a second-rate version of her. Both versions should be able to stand proudly on their own.

I look forward to it. I was never much of a incest fan so i don't mind the change as much as others here may do.

 

[RoleDover]

Thats very bad advice to give.

I've seen other developers go the patch route, or even allowed a third party to do a patch. And Patreon have shut them down hard.

Folks, Belle has a good head on their shoulders, they already have something planned for this kind of situation, lets not throw out advice unless its asked for.

I understand what you're saying, but you misunderstood me, I never gave such advice. I asked a question. The whole patch thing is in no way shape or form expected from the developer. Usually patches are made by other people, who are completely independent. Again I understand where you're coming from but I would never give advice to someone who knows everything about this better than myself, you seem to have inferred from my post that I was giving advice. I trust Belle wholeheartedly bro, i'm a patreon.

 

[DSGamer1663]

any saves

 

[RustyV]

Belle I'm sure your new Evelyn 2.0 will give you an opportunity to add more to an already great game.

 

[Saraf]

Ah for the love...what is it with this week and me trying to catch up on games just to then suddenly see something bad has happened.
Starts to feel like a curse.

Not gonna lie,Evelyn´s background was a big draw to her character for me and no matter how well the rewrite will turn out,just aint gonna be the same(not to mention whatever other content Patreon might find offensable...you never now with them and their randomness).
Yeah,dunno what to even say to that at the moment.

Belle said plans are set so there is little value in coming up with alternatives but I guess I will spitball some of the possibilities anyway(if only to delude myself that Belle has something in the backhand aside from completely erasing old Evelyn as she was).

1.(Un)official patch - can always backfire if connections to the author get out,understandble Belle outright declines it
2.Unofficial patch - considering how tight LLtP´s narrative is,I dont see a simple role switch that many other projects use to work for new content
3.custom role insert - see 2. (also needless to say that most games that use it have to castrate their writing to accommodate,rather unsatisfying solution)
4.(Un)official patch post release - now this is actually a interesting solution that I have seen multiple creators promise(if only in private),though I guess that depends on whether the creator wants to keep that particular game listed on their patreon post release
5.stop being a baby and accept it - hnnnnnng at most you will get tolerance out of me

 

[Dragon59]

Ah for the love...what is it with this week and me trying to catch up on games just to then suddenly see something bad has happened.
Starts to feel like a curse.

Not gonna lie,Evelyn´s background was a big draw to her character for me and no matter how well the rewrite will turn out,just aint gonna be the same(not to mention whatever other content Patreon might find offensable...you never now with them and their randomness).
Yeah,dunno what to even say to that at the moment.

If "Mind Control" is ever prohibited, that will hit a lot of games. Likewise for molestation of people sleeping and other non-consensual acts.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Belle already said they will not put their patreon income at risk. So give up on any "patch".
I trust Belle to make up a new interesting story for Evelyn.

On the bright side if Belle ever wants to sell this game on Steam now it will likely be easier.


ps:
Now i realize i don't know if Belle is a boy, a girl or a eldritch being. Well back to them/they pronoums.

 

[Saraf]

If "Mind Control" is ever prohibited, that will hit a lot of games. Likewise for molestation of people sleeping and other non-consensual acts.

Rape already is on their no-no list,aint it?
Pretty sure if they see fit mind control falls under that(as do all other non-consensual acts...which these days means anything that isnt contractually documented and notary approved hah).
I vaguely remember devs getting axed for that under the pretense of a fetish being denoted as a extension of rape.

Belle already said they will not put their patreon income at risk. So give up on any "patch".
I trust Belle to make up a new interesting story for Evelyn.

On the bright side if Belle ever wants to sell this game on Steam now it will likely be easier.


ps:
Now i realize i don't know if Belle is a boy, a girl or a eldritch being. Well back to them/they pronoums.

Yes,keep destroying the dreams of people who actually care for that particular content
Let us poor fools cope however we wish,even if its grasping at thin air.

 

[RustyV]

If Patreon didn't bring it up with Belle, it's not an issue.
The game follows every other Patreon rule.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Yes,keep destroying the dreams of people who actually care for that particular content
Let us poor fools cope however we wish,even if its grasping at thin air.

The dream was over already. Deluding yourself won't help, suck it up.

 

[Saraf]

If Patreon didn't bring it up with Belle, it's not an issue.
The game follows every other Patreon rule.

Just to clarify,that was aimed at other Patreon projects in general,not LLtP.

The dream was over already. Suck it up.

Never!
The dream shall live on!
Vive la perverse résistance!

 

[DSGamer1663]

any saves

 

[Evangelion-01]

If "Mind Control" is ever prohibited, that will hit a lot of games. Likewise for molestation of people sleeping and other non-consensual acts.

Rape already is on their no-no list,aint it?
Pretty sure if they see fit mind control falls under that(as do all other non-consensual acts...which these days means anything that isnt contractually documented and notary approved hah).
I vaguely remember devs getting axed for that under the pretense of a fetish being denoted as a extension of rape.

It actually already is... same as hypnotism invoke trance... pretty much anything that robs a person of their free will and turns them into a mindless slave... atleast this is nothing Belle has to worry about

 

[molerat21]

I don't know if this has been answered but; will the Evelynn rework be before or after the end of the end game story, or at least before or after the next update?

 

[Evangelion-01]

I don't know if this has been answered but; will the Evelynn rework be before or after the end of the end game story, or at least before or after the next update?

Belle already is hard at work at it and said in order to comply with Patreons guideline this takes priority to continuing the story

 

[Dragon59]

It actually already is... same as hypnotism invoke trance... pretty much anything that robs a person of their free will and turns them into a mindless slave... atleast this is nothing Belle has to worry about

Next thing you know, having sex with your....landlady....while she's stuck under the table, in the dryer, or with her hand in the sink is going to be banned--all the modern porn tropes are dropping away!

 

[DA22]

Next thing you know, having sex with your....landlady....while she's stuck under the table, in the dryer, or with her hand in the sink is going to be banned--all the modern porn tropes are dropping away!

Well the only solution is for all of us as Patrons to stop using Patreon if you do not agree with their censorship. Of course you can keep using them if you feel comfortable about companies pushing their morality rules on the rest of the world and are hypocrite like hell about it.

Any "female protagonist in rape town" game is more against their TOS as Belle's game is. This game falls well under the exceptions in their TOS as also a show as Game of thrones does.