They have neither shut me down nor banned me. They haven't even suspended me. They sent me an email so that I could put things in order before it would have to come to any of that.
I have received confirmation from Patreon now. The official download links on Patreon are going down within the next 24 hours or so to comply with their requirements, and then I will start assembling a modified version of the game for reupload.
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Man, just read about this whole thing now, that's a bummer.
I hope you get back on track with the modified game soon, this roadblock in your development has to be more than a little annoying.
Is it only the Evelyn storyline that's a problem? Will Aldred's and the rest of the MC's family history be modified as well or are you just thinking of a different way of developing Evelyn?
And is that the only objectionable content that Patreon has flagged? Or do you have to modify some other parts of the game as well?
I hope you get back on track with the modified game soon, this roadblock in your development has to be more than a little annoying.
Is it only the Evelyn storyline that's a problem? Will Aldred's and the rest of the MC's family history be modified as well or are you just thinking of a different way of developing Evelyn?
And is that the only objectionable content that Patreon has flagged? Or do you have to modify some other parts of the game as well?
I would say Evelyn's content is what's being objected to, based on what they told me. Please don't try to pick through the game to list things that may or may not comply with their rules. Assume that they read this thread and might make assumptions (correct or incorrect) about the game that could lead to more trouble if people start doing that.
Obviously, any incest content in Evelyn's storyline will be changed. The new version should hopefully not feel any less interesting to new players, though obviously, existing players will have a hard time adjusting to a version of Evelyn who doesn't have the same background as before.
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Gotcha, was already trying to be very careful and diplomatic
Oh and just for shits and giggles, I'm gonna change my Patreon pledge to Subscribestar. Take that
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Fuck Patreon. Take your money elsewhere babe.
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Thats all well and good to say now, but take a look at the numbers. Belle has built up about 1000 followers on Patreon, that's taken about 3 years to build up, especially considering that right now there are 28 followers on Subscribestar. Its going to take time to rebuild those numbers.
Besides which, Patreon isn't the problem, its the companies that handle the money for Patreon, who also handle the money for other sites like Patreon. So while Patreon might be cracking down now, it could easily be another site starts cracking down because of pressure from up above.
Besides which, Patreon isn't the problem, its the companies that handle the money for Patreon, who also handle the money for other sites like Patreon. So while Patreon might be cracking down now, it could easily be another site starts cracking down because of pressure from up above.
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Then Patreon gets away with fucking people over becuse of some anonymous censor. Why doesn't Patreon grow a pair then and tell these self appointed fuck wits to fuck off?????
P.S It is not just the creators that are getting shafted by self appointed censors it is the Investors in the games as well. So I will say it again - Fuck Patreon.
They already did, but compromises have to be made.
A lot of people seem to forget that Patreon went to great lengths to protect adult content creators several years ago. PayPal wanted to drop Patreon entirely because of this type of content, but Patreon resisted and managed to come up with a deal. This is probably a major factor in why only certain types of content are banned today, most likely because PayPal (in particular) set that as a requirement. Patreon has pushed back more than most other companies are capable of, and that's why I can even use their services at all today.
This is a much more complicated situation than "Patreon is bad".
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Before making a show of indignation try to learn the true villains behind this story. As mentioned before in here Paypal and credit card companies, like Mastercard, are the ones forcing a shut down over some types of sexual content on Patreon.
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And when Paypal shutdown Subscribestar's account, they moved on without them
And are not particularly successful at it. The number of people subscribing to projects on SubscribeStar is minuscule compared to on Patreon. For LLtP, it's not even 3%.
Momentum is powerful. It's hard to get people to change habits
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And look at the undermost amount of developers and their supporters there when compared to Patreon.
Subscribestar may work as a alternative way of support but it won't substitute patreon anytime soon.
Not as long as Patreon is an option and all they need are "third party patches". When people get used to something, habits are hard to break. It's why many companies focus marketing money to capture at big life moments, as those are the most likely periods to modify habits.
It's not an easy problem to solve, but it's not intractable. But it's not a great solution when you already have such a large established set of customers
I'll be switching my support of Belle over to SubscribeStar tomorrow, as my Patreon protest.
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One thing we've seen is when a patch writer gets snitched on, they then get shut down by Patreon.