Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
Game Developer
Sep 25, 2017
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Ugh, keep strong and dont give up Belle
Whatever gave you the impression that I might give up? I've been ready for this situation for a long time. Not in terms of having the code ready, but in that I have thought a lot about it and can deal with it with only minimal stress.

Challenges only make me more determined to succeed.
 

Orlu

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Dec 10, 2018
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It's unfortunate and annoying, but as you said it was long expected. You've got to make the changes you've got to make to comply, and I can't really imagine that anyone will blame you for the delay involved. It's good to hear that you're confident in the preparations you've made and aren't too thrown off by this.

While I'm not a fan of subscribing to these things, I'll probably be jumping on to send you a bit of money with the next patch (especially if someone reminds me when it happens), and I guess this has decided me in favour of the non-Patreon option.
 
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Armin

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Dec 16, 2017
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Considering that you never hid the incest content under a patch i am surprised it took patreon that long to catch it. :unsure:
Well if should be simple to fix, after all they allow things like milf city to go on under a "landlady bandaid".
Given how the situation is set up already going with step-siblings instead seems more logical.
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
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Sep 25, 2017
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Given how the situation is set up already going with step-siblings instead seems more logical.
That wouldn't solve anything for Patreon, which is why you don't see other adult games going that route either.
 
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kenkko

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That wouldn't solve anything for Patreon, which is why you don't see other adult games going that route either.
Considering that Evelyn leaves the game early if you push a bit too far too quickly, would it be possible to set the Evelyn leave variable so that she doesnt appear in the game at all?
 

DigDug69

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Jun 29, 2019
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Considering that Evelyn leaves the game early if you push a bit too far too quickly, would it be possible to set the Evelyn leave variable so that she doesnt appear in the game at all?
Evelyn plays a big part in the story, so I do not see that as being possible.

Probably better off changing it slightly so that either the MC or Evelyn were taken in as a child, but no direct family relation.
Not adopted, but simply given a place to live.
A patch could then revert it back, if the end user chose to use one.
That way, MC and Evelyn still act like siblings because they grew up together, but they are not related at all, without the patch having been added.
Think of it as Wesley and Buttercup from the princess bride in some ways.
He was a poor servant, so loving buttercup was not something that he could easily admit to, and the same goes for her. She couldn't easily admit to loving a servant.

It would have been socially unacceptable for Evelyn to marry a servant, which could be used as the reason for her reluctance in getting into that kind of relationship with him..
This could make changing it a bit easier, since it would mostly be just a change of text.
The MC simply lived with her uncle and her until he was old enough to take on a skill that would support him. While growing up, he acted as a servant.
 
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professorx10

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Jul 22, 2018
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Yeah, it's paypal and credit card companies wanting to set moral standards for the society. can you imagine fucking bankers trying to set moral standards for us
(Ha ha... I just have to chip in about this.) Why NOT??!! POLITICIANS DO, TEACHERS DO, (not EVEN mentioning Religions, here) Hell WE're TRAINED TO LET OTHER PEOPLE TELL US HOW TO LIVE... It is the mark of an adult to finally look at what we've been told, separate out the Bulsh*t and make our own viewpoint...which I'm sad to say, is work that most individuals fail to do. Just look at everyone following some crowd without even examining to see if they agree with its purpose. Being a Football fanatic (Go packers!) is one thing, voting for a politician because he has a "D" or "R" behind his name is totally different...but PEOPLE DO IT! They'd vote for a BRICK if it had the right Party backing it. That's how this country got so f*cked up. Its US, letting other people tell us how to think, what to say, and what to do!!

And on the other hand, there are certain rules we agree to follow if we're going to live in any society...even a street gang. (Don't rat on anyone!) However, there are still lots of places we can 'tell 'em to shove it' and live by our own standards....

OK RANT MODE <OFF!>
Sorry, I just couldn't help myself... I'll be wishing Belle best of luck and joining him on that 'other' site.
 

voldybuff

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If anything, I am surprised it took this long for you to get that strike. You never attempted to skirt around any of it so it's a wonder that you were up this long without any reports.

I'm not worried anyway. You mentioned before that you have planned for this. Take your time.

...On second thought, don't take your time. Bad idea. Patreon already has their hammer up.
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
Game Developer
Sep 25, 2017
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There's no need to try to think of a way for me to solve things. I was already prepared for this, as I said. While I still have to tweak a few details, I know what I'm going to do with Evelyn, and it should be every bit as interesting as her original incarnation.
 

Dragon59

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Apr 24, 2020
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All right, everyone! I'm afraid I have some bad news to share.

I have been contacted by the Patreon Trust & Safety team and told that my account there is at risk of being suspended unless I remove the offending content from my page, though they don't go into specifics. Most of us probably knew that this day would eventually come.
...
I understand if this news makes some of you angry and upset, but anger won't solve anything at this point. Let's be constructive and get over this speed bump together, and consider ourselves lucky I managed to slip through the cracks for this long.
I have 28 subscribers on SubscribeStar and 1025 patrons on Patreon. I can't just "quit Patreon" if nobody uses the alternative site.
I'm thankful they let you know before the end of the month. I will be moving my patronage to SubscribeStar at the first of the month, so that will be at the very least 29 and 1024.

So some Karen decided to report the game.

Fucking Karen.
That's usually how it happens. Perhaps lasting so long could be seen a credit to Belle's fans. So many fans and no snitching until now...
 

Meushi

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I have been contacted by the Patreon Trust & Safety team and told that my account there is at risk of being suspended unless I remove the offending content
Bummer! Given how well organised your code is hopefully it won't be too onerous to rework it to meet Patreon's requirements.
 

Sancrest

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I have been contacted by the Patreon Trust & Safety team and told that my account there is at risk of being suspended unless I remove the offending content from my page, though they don't go into specifics.
Patreon/Youtube/or Any Other Corp: Please remove offending content.
You: Sure, please specify what is offending so I can remove ASAP
Patreon/Youtube/or Any Other Corp: We can not disclose such sensitive information to you.
 

Evil13

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Patreon/Youtube/or Any Other Corp: Please remove offending content.
You: Sure, please specify what is offending so I can remove ASAP
Patreon/Youtube/or Any Other Corp: We can not disclose such sensitive information to you.
Thing is, there is only one type of content in the game that Patreon is referring to, and its pretty much a big part of the game.
 

RoleDover

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Belle This has probably been implied that you won't do it, but are you going to make a Patreon version, with the changed content? And a subscribe star version that has the original content? Surely they have no say or business in what you do outside of their platform, even if it is linked to you. If not then an patch shouldn't be too difficult to make.
 

Evil13

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This has probably been implied that you won't do it, but are you going to make a Patreon version, with the changed content? And a subscribe star version that has the original content? Surely they have no say or business in what you do outside of their platform, even if it is linked to you. If not then an patch shouldn't be too difficult to make.
Thats very bad advice to give.

I've seen other developers go the patch route, or even allowed a third party to do a patch. And Patreon have shut them down hard.

Folks, Belle has a good head on their shoulders, they already have something planned for this kind of situation, lets not throw out advice unless its asked for.
 

Belle

Developer of Supermodel & Long Live the Princess
Game Developer
Sep 25, 2017
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Belle This has probably been implied that you won't do it, but are you going to make a Patreon version, with the changed content? And a subscribe star version that has the original content? Surely they have no say or business in what you do outside of their platform, even if it is linked to you. If not then an patch shouldn't be too difficult to make.
I am complying with Patreon's demands on their platform to the letter. That's all I can say. Remember, Patreon might be monitoring this thread.
 
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Zenithtb

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It's quite worrying nowadays when business can shut down other business on a whim, and because it's their platform there's really nothing you can do.

YouTube and Patreon both seem to suffer from a twitchy Ban finger.
 
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