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i really am excited to see this game progress. already it appears to be laying a lot of threads for gameplay elements that you don't see in the adult game genre.
 
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Gomly1980

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Hence, if it's a world without slut shaming, [/SPOILER]
Slut shaming is a relatively new thing.

If you look back at the middle ages sex wasn't something people were "shamed" for.

If you go through the years, Greeks and Romans were famous for orgies, incest and general fuckery.

Even more modernish times like the 60's were sexually open. In the 80's and 90's sexuality was flaunted.

It wasn't until the late 00's onward that this whole new "think of the children" mentality came about and "sex is bad, yo".

Slut shaming in a medieval game just wouldn't work. People would shrug and walk on to fuck the next hole plastered infront of them. Brothels and prostitution were common place.

My own country of England used to screw the Scottish ... literally. There was a law called Prima Nocta which gave lords the right to fuck a Scottish woman on her wedding night before her husband.

Sex was a very open thing.
 

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Sex was a very open thing.
I have to respectfully disagree with a lot of what you posted there. There are some periods of history in which sexuality was flaunted, but like everything else this has been something that has gone back and forth, sometimes depending on the era, and sometimes depending on geography. Many of our modern interpretations of medieval times are based on myth and legend. The Prima Nocta you mention is an excellent example. Modern historians agree that it is a myth and not something that truly happened, at least not in an organized way such as what that supposed law suggests.

Having said that, Long Live the Princess is not supposed to be historically accurate. Historically accurate facts and fantasy tropes are just some of the tools I can and will apply where appropriate to create an entertaining game, but they will never take precedence over the entertainment factor.
 

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Slut shaming is a relatively new thing.
Discounting the Edwardian and Victorian eras of course . . .

If you go through the years, Greeks and Romans were famous for orgies, incest and general fuckery.

Even more modernish times like the 60's were sexually open. In the 80's and 90's sexuality was flaunted.
Judging from modern advertising I would argue that sexuality is still flaunted. In what other way would models who are Victoria Secret models become famous?

Slut shaming in a medieval game just wouldn't work. People would shrug and walk on to fuck the next hole plastered infront of them. Brothels and prostitution were common place.
Agreed, with the majority of common people living in single room dwellings you would actually get used to the parents getting you new siblings from what i have read. Admittedly not about general slutting around but there was a much healthier attitude towards sex as a biological function.

My own country of England used to screw the Scottish ... literally. There was a law called Prima Nocta which gave lords the right to fuck a Scottish woman on her wedding night before her husband.
While Wikipedia is not the be all and end all of historical research some of them are fairly well researched. It says in the article about this practise: "There is no evidence of the right being exercised in medieval Europe, and all known references to it are from later time periods"
Of course this would conflict with the lovingly accurate view of medieval history as portrayed in Braveheart :p
EDIT: Damn ninjaed by @Belle
 
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Slut shaming is a relatively new thing.

If you look back at the middle ages sex wasn't something people were "shamed" for.

If you go through the years, Greeks and Romans were famous for orgies, incest and general fuckery.

Even more modernish times like the 60's were sexually open. In the 80's and 90's sexuality was flaunted.

It wasn't until the late 00's onward that this whole new "think of the children" mentality came about and "sex is bad, yo".

Slut shaming in a medieval game just wouldn't work. People would shrug and walk on to fuck the next hole plastered infront of them. Brothels and prostitution were common place.

My own country of England used to screw the Scottish ... literally. There was a law called Prima Nocta which gave lords the right to fuck a Scottish woman on her wedding night before her husband.

Sex was a very open thing.
Hey, i love you, Bro, but looks like you slept through your Dark Ages classes.
 
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the last thing I would want in a porn fantasy medieval game is for it to be historically accurate, it is much better to let it be free of these bounds and just enjoy the medieval setting, exactly like @Belle is doing right now
 

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the last thing I would want in a porn fantasy medieval game is for it to be historically accurate, it is much better to let it be free of these bounds and just enjoy the medieval setting, exactly like @Belle is doing right now
I agree. If this was an accurate medieval setting, everybody would be praying or working all the time, and not much , if ANY porn going on. Not to mention famine, desease, pillaging, constant war...they called it "Dark Ages" for a reason, right ?
 
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Gomly1980

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We'd have the crusades, they were cool ... right?

They did rapey stuff and murderising of people.

Yeah ... cool.
 
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We'd have the crusades, they were cool ... right?

They did rapey stuff and murderising of people.

Yeah ... cool.
Not quite. Before the Crusades, Europe saw, by this order, Vikings, Moors, Magyars and Turks, all of them got a nasty habbit of killing the men, raping the women and enslaving the children. For centuries, the elite military Turkish unit, the Janissaries, was made up of enslaved and brainwashed Christian children. Only by the XVI Century you began to see Europe kicking asses and taking names. Until then, we were a punching bag, mate.
 
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Not quite. Before the Crusades, Europe saw, by this order, Vikings, Moors, Magyars and Turks, all of them got a nasty habbit of killing the men, raping the women and enslaving the children. For centuries, the elite military Turkish unit, the Janissaries, was made up of enslaved and brainwashed Christian children. Only by the XVI Century you began to see Europe kicking asses and taking names. Until then, we were a punching bag, mate.
Well to be fair, Vikings are European, Moors got kicked out of Spain by El Cid, Not that familiar with Magyars is that another term for huns? While Mongols et al were a pain and it was only Austria that stopped the Turkish invasion, Europe wasn't really overrun by anyone after Attila except for each other. That being said I'm getting old and my medieval history courses were alot of years ago :)
 

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The word Viking means "Raider ". When they showed up in Lindisfarne, in 693 , they killed everybody. By that time, "Europe " meant the Greco-Roman World. The Moorish invasion started in 711 , and they were finally kicked out in 1492, Cid had nothing to do with it. The Magyars are the modern Hungarians. As for the Turks, Vienna was saved by dumb luck. The Turks were so confident, that they "forgot" to bring along their heavy artillery. So, it was a very long siege, during which the Vienese were reduced to eat tiny loafs of bread, which they called "croissants ", and finally an outbreak of the plague made the Turks pull back . But this was 1683, the Middle Ages were long gone.
 
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The word Viking means "Raider ". When they showed up in Lindisfarne, in 693 , they killed everybody. By that time, "Europe " meant the Greco-Roman World. The Moorish invasion started in 711 , and they were finally kicked out in 1492, Cid had nothing to do with it. The Magyars are the modern Hungarians. As for the Turks, Vienna was saved by dumb luck. The Turks were so confident, that they "forgot" to bring along their heavy artillery. So, it was a very long siege, during which the Vienese were reduced to eat tiny loafs of bread, which they called "croissants ", and finally an outbreak of the plague made the Turks pull back . But this was 1683, the Middle Ages were long gone.
Nice lesson :) Well aware who the Danes were and that the term "viking" was more of a trade (hey sea raider can be a trade :) ). I see what you are saying about the entire thing being centered around the Med but by the Seventh century people really didn't think in terms of the Romans or Greeks anymore. What with the Western Empire folding in the 400s and the "Holy Roman Empire" not yet in evidence until Charles coronation. Don't forget the "Dark Ages" were essentially only the centuries between the Fall of Rome and the rise of the HRE (at least that's what I remember from my courses). Can't really say much about Constantinople (though I did know the origin of croissants) but regardless of dumb luck or whatever the Turks never got past that point. Of course that didn't help the Balkans (had some individuals from the Balkans in some of my Master's courses, got really tired of hearing about "four hundred years of the Ottaman yoke" so parts of Europe were indeed punching bags. All in all though they managed much better than say Baghdad after the 1200's or even India. Point is that I don't see Europe being anymore of a punching bag than other areas in the world at this time.
Sorry for derailing the thread and we now return you to your original channel.
 

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@Belle , is it possible to build relationship with you ? err.. i mean the pixie in the game. i just thought the MC and the pixie could be a best friend or have a some kind of relationship going with how the story progress.
 
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@Belle , is it possible to build relationship with you ? err.. i mean the pixie in the game. i just thought the MC and the pixie could be a best friend or have a some kind of relationship going with how the story progress.
There will be some kind of story progress for Belle in that regard, yes. It won't the same as for the rest of the girls (so no Invade Mind with her, for example), but it will be there in some form. The first parts of this will be added to the game as soon as I have the time, which means most likely for 0.2 or 0.3.
 
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There will be some kind of story progress for Belle in that regard, yes. It won't the same as for the rest of the girls (so no Invade Mind with her, for example), but it will be there in some form. The first parts of this will be added to the game as soon as I have the time, which means most likely for 0.2 or 0.3.
good to know. well, i would love know what's in the pixie's mind :test:, but that would be too much spoiler i guess :closedeyesmile:
 
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good to know. well, i would love know what's in the pixie's mind :test:, but that would be too much spoiler i guess :closedeyesmile:
It would. :) Suffice to say, the first line of dialogue I ever wrote for this game was for Belle, and it's not in the current version. Once we get to that line, which should be soon, you'll have a much greater understanding of what makes her tick.
 
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