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Yes, I am trying like hell to drop a bug in Dim's ear about Stan surviving because us old bikers need to stand together.
I am still wanting Ryker to invite Della for a ride on his "Fat Boy".
If Stan survives, things are going to get very weird with Della. Nothing against the mc taking Della for a motorcycle ride, but they're almost at the point of having sex; they're very close to it. If Stan survives, I think it would be good if we at least had the option of maintaining a purely friendly relationship with Della, because, as far as I remember, we didn't have the option of refusing to cross the line of friendship with her.
 

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Ehhhhh i'm not in this thread for 2-3 days and shit is happening...

Got a serious question: Why the fuck do you HAVE to analyze how a game works?!

If you cant figure out how to get specific points or paths then activate the EZ Mode or sub on patreon and shoot the Dev a DM! i know for sure that Dima Answers.

Those type of Games are not there for using your brain dude....:HideThePain:
 

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It's ok to have an ethical opinion, but what it comes off as is passively aggressively trying to influence a writers/artists version of their own story; which is absolutely deplorable.
The game offers the option to enable or disable certain fetishes, and exhibitionism is a fetish, and I would disable it if possible. Everything I've said is purely an opinion and an idea about an alternative route for those who aren't comfortable with Ryker's women exhibiting themselves to other men. I'm not pointing a gun at the developer's head to force them to do what I'm saying; it's up to them to decide whether what I've said is viable or not. As a developer, he should act as a filter, not as a wall isolating himself from the public. He should absorb the impact of criticism and suggestions, extract the useful information, and discard what harms the essence of the project.
 

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The game offers the option to enable or disable certain fetishes, and exhibitionism is a fetish, and I would disable it if possible. Everything I've said is purely an opinion and an idea about an alternative route for those who aren't comfortable with Ryker's women exhibiting themselves to other men. I'm not pointing a gun at the developer's head to force them to do what I'm saying; it's up to them to decide whether what I've said is viable or not. As a developer, he should act as a filter, not as a wall isolating himself from the public. He should absorb the impact of criticism and suggestions, extract the useful information, and discard what harms the essence of the project.
No offence you can feel that way if you wish but then dont play a game based partly in a strip joint.
And if don't like your girlfriend stripping that much dont say yes to dating a stripper.
The Fox Box is a big part of this story its also a fekin strip joint.
You can't have stripper girlfriends you agreed to date.
Working at a strip joint as a stripper and not have them stripping Its a large part of the story.
They were strippers when you said yes to dateing them.

Honestly its not that hard to grasp the concept.
Strippers in a strip joint strip.
Just sayin
 
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No offence you can feel that way if you wish but then dont play a game based partly in a strip joint.
And if don't like your girlfriend stripping that much dont say yes to dating a stripper.
The Fox Box is a big part of this story its also a fekin strip joint.
You can't have stripper girlfriends you agreed to date.
Working at a strip joint as a stripper and not have them stripping Its a large part of the story.
They were strippers when you said yes to dateing them.

Honestly its not that hard to grasp the concept.
Strippers in a strip joint strip.
Just sayin
No problem, I'll keep playing because I tolerate it, since there's no NTR content. Another issue is pregnancy; I don't know if all the women will be able to get pregnant. If they can, those who do striptease will end up getting pregnant sooner or later. How will the business work considering that all the women at Fox Box are Ryker's women? They might need to stop working because of pregnancy and, after giving birth, take care of the children. If that happens, whoever is the leader of the Rogues after Stan's death and the protagonist will need to think of an alternative to resolve the situation of falling profits.
 

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Ok Rogues, we are about to a point where we are going to need to make a VERY dark decision.
Tori Taylor? Should we lead her down the path of submission and keep her just a sweetie? Treat her normally as a trusted Inner Circle? Do any of you sick, twisted animals believe she is OL caliber?
 
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I think there's a lot of people screaming based on fear of missing out or the need to unlock every scene like a collector or they're achievements you need to score.

And that's the wrong attitude.

The game is very upfront about every option, far more than real life so if to don't want to date a stripper you don't have to. You can say no, as far as I know, pretty much every girl who's doing that you know about right off. You might bang them and move on at worst without putting a choker on it and claiming it worst case. Moreover if you have a look but don't touch attitude you can tell them not to do VIP dances aside from maybe 2 who already were doing them before you started up with them - so you knew what you were getting into. I mean fuck Nikki was the main stripper and turned out to be a virgin which has probably never happened ever in that line of work but bless that girl she's amazing. I wanna put babies in her so hopefully we can fix that with pelvic biker magic super sperm.

And regarding Della you have the clear option FOR HER TO NEVER EVEN OFFER anything physical preempting your need to even refuse her if you are at all concerned about cucking Stan the Man. Or just don't like older women. Either is a very good reason, and that is there for you. So there should be no concern or need to fret about it unless the idea that some other person reason the same story as you may choose another option.

But fuck that, just play your story, and be happy its a really good story you can make your own. You are not missing out by having standards on who you want to be with. Hell, I wish more men had standards in the dating market to reign in the simp economy. You don't need to say yes to every possible offer iut of desperation. Pick your favorite fantasy hotties or collect them all, but don't bitch about it.
 
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No problem, I'll keep playing because I tolerate it, since there's no NTR content. Another issue is pregnancy; I don't know if all the women will be able to get pregnant. If they can, those who do striptease will end up getting pregnant sooner or later. How will the business work considering that all the women in the Fox Box are Ryker's wives? They might need to stop working because of pregnancy and, after giving birth, take care of the children. If that happens, whoever is the leader of the Rogues after Stan's death and the protagonist will need to think of an alternative to resolve the situation of decreased profits.
By the time Rin, Larissa or Nikki are showing, RMC should have had the showdown. When we win, we will take over Babes, XXX and any other clubs run by mmc. Just like MLB, we can always call up a substitute from the minors to work at The Box. Also San Bernardino[Berdoo] is not far from LA(1 hr), San Diego(2 hrs) and lots of college girls to recruit wait staff and (like Tracy) dancers needing tuition help. Failing all of that we can contact 81 in Fontana for their overflow Club Sweeties.
 
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Ok Rogues, we are about to a point where we are going to need to make a VERY dark decision.
Tori Taylor? Should we lead her down the path of submission and keep her just a sweetie? Treat her normally as a trusted Inner Circle? Do any of you sick, twisted animals believe she is OL caliber?
Tori will be a valuable ally if we know how to handle her; since she is a shrewd and powerful woman, the best thing would be to keep her on equal footing in the relationship and influence her to use her power to help us, but anyway, regardless of who it is, I always prefer a normal relationship, I don't like this submission thing. We can help her with her goals in exchange for her helping us with ours; one hand washes the other. But if possible, it would be great to add you to the harem.
 
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If you Try to make Tori a Submissive LI is one thing.
But if you mean making her Submissive to the Rogues.
Fuck no how would that make us any better than her brother or the other minions.
Nah I don't think she's trustable yet... but I want Tori to to be like Reba.
And have Ryker treat her firm but fair like he did with Reba.
Unless Tori does something dogy or puts Rogue's at risk she should be treated well.
So she comes to want to be part of the Rogues family for herself.
But then thats just my opinion on Tori
 

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Ok Rogues, we are about to a point where we are going to need to make a VERY dark decision.
Tori Taylor? Should we lead her down the path of submission and keep her just a sweetie? Treat her normally as a trusted Inner Circle? Do any of you sick, twisted animals believe she is OL caliber?
It's true that Tori could become an antagonist depending on our decision regarding the deal she offers, but in my opinion, she's not a villain by nature. If we know how to play our cards right and don't interfere with Tori's plans, acting instead in her favor, we'll neutralize the danger she represents. Thus, instead of using her cunning and power to harm us, she could begin to use that same cunning and power to protect the Rogues' interests when truly necessary. Now, about bringing her into the harem, that's complicated. I'd only accept it if she stopped being that despicable mayor's mistress, but it seems she'll end up abandoning him sooner or later; it's only a matter of time.
 
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Ok Rogues, we are about to a point where we are going to need to make a VERY dark decision.
Tori Taylor? Should we lead her down the path of submission and keep her just a sweetie? Treat her normally as a trusted Inner Circle? Do any of you sick, twisted animals believe she is OL caliber?
Oh, she's definitely gonna be a sub, and never gonna be an Ol'lady.

I'm not pointing a gun at the developer's head to force them to do what I'm saying; it's up to them to decide whether what I've said is viable or not. As a developer, he should act as a filter, not as a wall isolating himself from the public.
Dude, I get that you are trying to put forward your impressions of the story. But, here's a tip. This VN is 16 huge chapters long after nearly 6 years in development. At this point in development there is no such thing as a developer who is looking for suggestions on what direction the story should take. There are about 40 or 50 regulars in this thread who could tell you that it would be a long shot with this dev if he was only 2 weeks into development. Not because he doesn't listen, but because he knows the story he wants to tell. It's one of the reasons he has loyal supporters. Enjoy the ride, or not, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking to change the destination or the route being taken.
 

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Another issue: if Tori is truly an option to join the harem in the future, something needs to be done to stop her from being so manipulative, because currently she doesn't respect Ryker and still sees him as a piece she needs to control on her chessboard. Because if she continues like this, I would prefer her to be just an ally with certain benefits.
 
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Dude, I get that you are trying to put forward your impressions of the story. But, here's a tip. This VN is 16 huge chapters long after nearly 6 years in development. At this point in development there is no such thing as a developer who is looking for suggestions on what direction the story should take. There are about 40 or 50 regulars in this thread who could tell you that it would be a long shot with this dev if he was only 2 weeks into development. Not because he doesn't listen, but because he knows the story he wants to tell. It's one of the reasons he has loyal supporters. Enjoy the ride, or not, but you're barking up the wrong tree if you're looking to change the destination or the route being taken.
I don't believe the developer is so easily manipulated that he'll read something and automatically start thinking about changing his plans. If what I said goes against his plans for the game, he can simply ignore it and move forward with the story he intends to tell; there's no need to make such a fuss over something as simple as what I think about certain things.
 

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Nearly half of the posts on this page are yours. I'd say that's pretty good evidence that you're the one making a fuss.
That's an exaggeration, considering the more than 1000 pages of comments the game has here. Some people here are very sensitive and get irritated by anything, when in fact I didn't offend anyone who disagrees with what I said.
 

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No offence you can feel that way if you wish but then dont play a game based partly in a strip joint.
And if don't like your girlfriend stripping that much dont say yes to dating a stripper.
The Fox Box is a big part of this story its also a fekin strip joint.
You can't have stripper girlfriends you agreed to date.
Working at a strip joint as a stripper and not have them stripping Its a large part of the story.
They were strippers when you said yes to dateing them.

Honestly its not that hard to grasp the concept.
Strippers in a strip joint strip.
Just sayin
Well, it is easy, change the Fox Box from a stripper club to a monastery. I mean, for sure it would be weird if some 1% club would invest in a monastery or if all of the nuns in that monastery would then date and fuck Ryker after their second date - and I'm sure I've missed some other things...

But that would fit his wishes and Dima for sure is willing to change the whole game just for the wishes of one zoner.
Sorry, I just see some of my module have thrown some errors, it seems I need to repair them...
 
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