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Deckard81

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I admit I didn't give the player an opt out with Jessy and Tracy. (Probably some other as well) That will be corrected when I remaster Chapter One. Other than them, you've had the option to not open a path with a new girl. If there's too many girls in the game for your taste, that's on you bro.

I'm really questioning if I made the right decision to start engaging on this thread again... :cautious:
First off, I adore your game and can't wait for the rest of it, I only picked it up recently but couldn't put it down till I hit the "save here" so much content and such good content, you deserve every patron and sub you get.

Now, about the remaster. While I think the start of the game up to leaving the first town is by far the weakest part of the entire game and I wasn't a fan of the good guy/bad guy dichotomy, I'm assuming you were new to developing games at the time and you were learning as you went so I understand wanting to go back and make it feel more connected to the rest of the game. I'm just concerned that as it happens with so many games, remastering early chapters slows down the production and continuation of the main story. I don't know if it's just you or you have a team behind you now but wouldn't it be better to finish the story and then worry about remastering older content?

Either way I hope you continue to engage on these forums, a lot of people leave very constructive feedback here, sadly you sometimes have to wade through the bullshit to get to it.
 

Krytax123

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Yeez there is a lot of cringe fanboyism here, the users post wasnt even isulting or critisicing this much about the avn, it was more like a matter of stateing his opinion.

Imo he's right about the point that its slowly becoming too many girls, and he probably doesnt lack the mental capacity to "keep up" with it, i love this avn but its not like its a super deep philosophical story, what are you guys even talking about.

Imo (!!!) to many LI's break a the immersion/believeability of a story. Like come on, if it becomes 10+ serious relationships, how does anyone even manage his time and our mc in particular has a lot of other shit to manage as well.

Its always about the balance, every new LI will reduce the time of relationship development of other LI's so i guess everyone has some kind of arbitrary number where he/she thinks its simply too much. I think its maybe 10 (preferably less) while other may are fine with 30 or unlimited.

Its not a big deal but theres no reaon to display the user as an unreasonable troll lol
 
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PigeonPerson

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Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed the update. :cool:(y)

I don't know that I'd say,

763 still images
51 Animations/loops (4,000+ animation slides)
7,600+ lines of code and text is a mini-episode,

but I don't want to be accused of being insecure about size... :oops:

Lady Champagne? Yes, you'll have the option if you are on the corruption path with them. That will be an option during 3-ways with your bi girls and your other submissives as well. (Angel on Jessydom path, guests/clients/hostages, in Angelica's playroom.) :devilish:
Haha, didn't mean to make you insecure :eek: The update was plenty big with lot's of interesting content ;) Should probably used the word "sub-chapter" instead. Thanks again, eagerly awaiting future updates!

Sounds amazing, can't wait to see what you've planned! Hopefully there is enough lady champagne for all the thirsty ladies, served up in the nicest champagne glasses. On second thought, maybe there is no need to dirty the glasses when you can drink straight from the tap :D Just to make sure I didn't miss any content, there aren't any such scenes in the game yet, right?
 

HornyyPussy

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Yeez there is a lot of cringe fanboyism here, the users post wasnt even isulting or critisicing this much about the avn, it was more like a matter of stateing his opinion.

Imo he's right about the point that its slowly becoming too many girls, and he probably doesnt lack the mental capacity to "keep up" with it, i love this avn but its not like its a super deep philosophical story, what are you guys even talking about.

Imo (!!!) to many LI's break a the immersion/believeability of a story. Like come on, if it becomes 10+ serious relationships, how does anyone even manage his time and our mc in particular has a lot of other shit to manage as well.

Its always about the balance, every new LI will reduce the time of relationship development of other LI's so i guess everyone has some kind of arbitrary number where he/she thinks its simply too much. I think its maybe 10 (preferably less) while other may are fine with 30 or unlimited.

Its not a big deal but theres no reaon to display the user as an unreasonable troll lol
While no AVN can really be compared to Shakespeare or Dostoevsky, this is one of the better ones story wise (in mine and many others opinion). And regarding the number of LI's, that, as much else is down to personal opinion. As others have said, I see no problem with the amount of LI's and besides, it's full on Harem game, kinda comes with the territory.....
 

Krytax123

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While no AVN can really be compared to Shakespeare or Dostoevsky, this is one of the better ones story wise (in mine and many others opinion). And regarding the number of LI's, that, as much else is down to personal opinion. As others have said, I see no problem with the amount of LI's and besides, it's full on Harem game, kinda comes with the territory.....
I didnt meant to badmouth the avn when talking about the deepth, its not required or necessary as you said yourself, it was merely a reply towards the people mentioning that the poster wasnt able to keep up with the ("complex") story because of the many LI's ... the story is great imo too.

And yeah the the prefered number of LI's is simply a matter of personal taste as you said so i didnt understood why the guy got so much hate for stateing it lol
 

HornyyPussy

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I didnt meant to badmouth the avn when talking about the deepth, its not required or necessary as you said yourself, it was merely a reply towards the people mentioning that the poster wasnt able to keep up with the ("complex") story because of the many LI's ... the story is great imo too.

And yeah the the prefered number of LI's is simply a matter of personal taste as you said so i didnt understood why the guy got so much hate for stateing it lol
I think a big part of it was that he implied that the story doesn't move forward which is just downright incorrect, opinion or not.

This last Beta update for example, started a big side story for chapter 2.
 

motseer

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Yeez there is a lot of cringe fanboyism here...
Honestly, I didn't care what you had to say after that opener. Just a FYI, regulars here are respectful to one another as well as citizens who don't yet speak the language. You are welcome to an opinion whether it be a minority or majority view. You will quickly find you are not welcome to present a salty attitude. This story offers a glimpse of the little known lifestyle of the American biker with a bit of former military service tossed in. It's a damn good story and, for most of us old war dogs, will never have too many hot women. That's my opinion. You are welcome to yours. I do advise, however, laying off the shit talk. Jus' Sayin':cool:
 
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FatGiant

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I didnt meant to badmouth the avn when talking about the deepth, its not required or necessary as you said yourself, it was merely a reply towards the people mentioning that the poster wasnt able to keep up with the ("complex") story because of the many LI's ... the story is great imo too.

And yeah the the prefered number of LI's is simply a matter of personal taste as you said so i didnt understood why the guy got so much hate for stateing it lol
I don't know what threads you usually frequent, but, in threads with HIGH participation, like this one, the "regulars" tend to really get riled up when unfair and imprecise posts show up.

Why? Well, many of us have dumped many hours (willingly) into this thread. Most of us have played and replayed the game, know the story back and forth, have engaged in hypothesizing over future plot points, have joked and laughed together for a rather long time. This made us feel like a community.

Then along comes a new user that starts by misinterpreting the story, implies that what should be under "personal responsibility" is rather a game problem. This brings the community out. Even if that user may have had ANY relevant point in what he said, as a personal opinion or otherwise, by being unfair, he doomed his comment to be disputed.

You can have an opinion, obviously, but know, that for it to be respected, show respect FIRST. It all comes down to that.

Peace :)
 

Krytax123

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I don't know what threads you usually frequent, but, in threads with HIGH participation, like this one, the "regulars" tend to really get riled up when unfair and imprecise posts show up.

Why? Well, many of us have dumped many hours (willingly) into this thread. Most of us have played and replayed the game, know the story back and forth, have engaged in hypothesizing over future plot points, have joked and laughed together for a rather long time. This made us feel like a community.

Then along comes a new user that starts by misinterpreting the story, implies that what should be under "personal responsibility" is rather a game problem. This brings the community out. Even if that user may have had ANY relevant point in what he said, as a personal opinion or otherwise, by being unfair, he doomed his comment to be disputed.

You can have an opinion, obviously, but know, that for it to be respected, show respect FIRST. It all comes down to that.

Peace :)
Yeah i know and i can understand it to a certain degree, i guess the difference is just that i didnt perceived his comment as this unfairly judgemental.

The part about the main story not moving forward was kinda bullshit as HornyyPussy mentioned as we got quite some progerssion but otherwise it wasnt nearly as bad as the real idiot trolls being around here who shittalk avns without any reason.

And the community part is awesome (and i played the avn at least three times at this point too) but it comes along as rather toxic like that but whatever, its getting blown out of proportion now and isnt really that important of a topic afterall

Honestly, I didn't care what you had to say after that opener. Just a FYI, regulars here are respectful to one another as well as citizens who don't yet speak the language. You are welcome to an opinion whether it be a minority or majority view. You will quickly find you are not welcome to present a salty attitude. This story offers a glimpse of the little known lifestyle of the American biker with a bit of former military service tossed in. It's a damn good story and, for most of us old war dogs, will never have too many hot women. That's my opinion. You are welcome to yours. I do advise, however, laying off the shit talk. Jus' Sayin':cool:
You should start to read stuff if youre going to comment otherwise its kinda useless. Im not sure why youre trying to educate me about the story, i never said anything bad about it and on the contrary mentioned how much i like the avn.

What i dont like are cringe toxic comments brainless defending just because they like it so much. The user wasnt a toxic troll but again, whatever.
 

motseer

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Yeah i know and i can understand it to a certain degree, i guess the difference is just that i didnt perceived his comment as this unfairly judgemental.

The part about the main story not moving forward was kinda bullshit as HornyyPussy mentioned as we got quite some progerssion but otherwise it wasnt nearly as bad as the real idiot trolls being around here who shittalk avns without any reason.

And the community part is awesome (and i played the avn at least three times at this point too) but it comes along as rather toxic like that but whatever, its getting blown out of proportion now and isnt really that important of a topic afterall



You should start to read stuff if youre going to comment otherwise its kinda useless. Im not sure why youre trying to educate me about the story, i never said anything bad about it and on the contrary mentioned how much i like the avn.

What i dont like are cringe toxic comments brainless defending just because they like it so much. The user wasnt a toxic troll but again, whatever.
First, nobody called that "user" a toxic troll but you. Second, you have definitely managed to convince me... You've convinced me that you are truly clueless and beyond redemption. Therefor, on the list you go.
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motseer

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Moving beyond this nonsense...

Here in America we are celebrating Thanksgiving Day. It's simply what it sounds like; a day to give thanks. So, I am thankful to Dima for creating this wonderful story and for all the entertaining hours it has provided for me both reading it and talking about it here with good friends. I am thankful for all the friends and acquaintances I have found here (even the Swedes). Sorry, HP, it was just stronger than me.:p I wish everyone here good health and happiness. May God bless you all.
 

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Yeah i know and i can understand it to a certain degree, i guess the difference is just that i didnt perceived his comment as this unfairly judgemental.

The part about the main story not moving forward was kinda bullshit as HornyyPussy mentioned as we got quite some progerssion but otherwise it wasnt nearly as bad as the real idiot trolls being around here who shittalk avns without any reason.

And the community part is awesome (and i played the avn at least three times at this point too) but it comes along as rather toxic like that but whatever, its getting blown out of proportion now and isnt really that important of a topic afterall



You should start to read stuff if youre going to comment otherwise its kinda useless. Im not sure why youre trying to educate me about the story, i never said anything bad about it and on the contrary mentioned how much i like the avn.

What i dont like are cringe toxic comments brainless defending just because they like it so much. The user wasnt a toxic troll but again, whatever.
I disagree with most of this sentiment. In general no one has really been toxic. But we did get riled up. And thats happens its the internet. They weren't attacked and neither were you. Though if you keep that salt in your mouth we may end up getting toxic. But I and many others here would prefer that didn't happen. So maybe lose the snarky attitude and comments and we can have an actual civil discussion...or don't its up to you. Just don't get mad at the consequences of your choice to continue with the snark. People get mad when you repeatedly make backhanded and hidden insults. You can add as much depth to your comments as you want but when it contains repeated insults hidden in the subtext yeah we get mad. Simple as that.
 
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