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Fazed

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Thank you very much. That's not for me then. I don't need any Erics hovering over a storyline. Maybe I'll try the non-ntr version. But I guess when he's written as a main antagonist, he's in that version as well, is he?
He's the main antagonist. Of course he's in the story. Just grow a pair and tell him to fuck off when he tries to make a move. The game gives you the option to either be a wimp or stand up for the things you care about. So just dont be a wimp and all will be fine in that department. I'm not a fan of NTR myself and would not be playing the game if not given that agency.
 

Grimtown

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He's the main antagonist. Of course he's in the story. Just grow a pair and tell him to fuck off when he tries to make a move.
Doesn't sound much like an antagonist for the rest of the story if he really is taken out of the picture that easily. :unsure: Anyway, thanks for clearing this up. :)(y)
 

fedorov51

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I downloaded the ntr version but do I need to start a new game since I have a non ntr save files? Plus I still have the earlier version of the game where Carl fucks Sara but also have a threesome with Carl and Sara. Either way it sucks cause of that scene being removed
 

eddie987

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Thank you very much. That's not for me then. I don't need any Erics hovering over a storyline. Maybe I'll try the non-ntr version. But I guess when he's written as a main antagonist, he's in that version as well, is he?
Yeah, but you have complete control over all the important choices. As long as you don't show any weakness in your interactions with him you have nothing to worry about. You can also play the non-ntr version as a good guy or as a more corrupted one, so there are a lot of option. The MC has similar powers, but as he's getting stronger you can choose how you'll use them. Also I wouldn't say he's the main antagonist. He's the main ntr antagonist for sure, but there's a lot more going on storywise.
 
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Fazed

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Doesn't sound much like an antagonist for the rest of the story if he really is taken out of the picture that easily. :unsure: Anyway, thanks for clearing this up. :)(y)
Wont spoil character arcs. It's story development. You will see why when you play. Hope you have fun.
 
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I downloaded the ntr version but do I need to start a new game since I have a non ntr save files? Plus I still have the earlier version of the game where Carl fucks Sara but also have a threesome with Carl and Sara. Either way it sucks cause of that scene being removed
agreed!! i just found out about this game, n rape is 1 of my fav tags/story plots, n yet that scene was removed?? WHY?? n if anyone knows where to find an earlier version (n which version, btw) of this that still has the scene, i'd really appreciate it, thx

n since this guy Carl is trying to cock-block the MC w/all his girls, then it only makes sense that rape would be an essential part of his methods; so the game needs MORE rape, not less! n as far as what the term "NTR" has come to represent, WHO GIVES A FUCK??!! isn't the whole point of porn VNs to get our rocks off?? so what does it matter WHO is fucking the shit out of hot-ass women? the more the merrier!! n don't be so f'n posessive...IT'S JUST A GAME

P.S. n even tho i haven't played this yet (but sounds like i will), hell, i hope there's an option for the MC to join up w/Carl n be on the same team, so they can both go around using their powers on helpless women everywhere!!
 
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Fazed

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who exactly is getting NTR'd... are you doign the NTRing or are you getting NTRd...
NTR tag on this site is not used for netori. Only netorare. In this game the decisions you make mold the MC. if you choose the weak options or choose to let it happen, you will get NTR'd. Solution? Don't take the weak options and the MC will step up and do something about it.
 

Priappus

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Excuse me for this question which may be stupid but what does NTR stand for?
I will answer you very simply,when a man in a whole game fucks only him this is not NTR,when other men fuck in a game this is NTR (and realistic).
 

longjohngold

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As someone who was playing both routes on this, this is kinda annoying to see 2 different downloads for the versions. Did they change it like that just recently?
Yeah I had a save down each just so I got to see all the content... weird it's had to be separated out, I definitely didn't see that last time I played (ep 3 I think)...

Edit: Yeah this spilt thing has totally messed the game up... I'm not just talking about removing the spicy scene from the start, but I started over and got to some bit where you come home to find your mom blowing a dude and then it suddenly ended, which is miiiiles before the content even from the last time I played and if I fire up those saves I can keep going and see more stuff... my only guess I'd chosen too much of a strong reaction at one point and so it was about to move over to non-ntr stuff or something and so I'd then need the other version (weird considering the mother had someone else's dick in her mouth) so it just dead ends me...
 
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JesterAI

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I am seriously wondering why devs keep putting NTR in games where it's not the main point.
Or giving a Non-ntr path if NTR is the main point. Because all you get with that is the never-ending pissing contest between cucks and normal people.
And yes I kinkshame. Yes IDGAF what you think about my kinkshaming. So many games ruined either by trying to bait the NTR crowd, bait the non-NTR crowd or just by proponents of either coming in to shit on the game.

Either go full NTR or full non-NTR. A middle ground only serves to make both sides pissy at each other.
Which is a shame as this is a darn good game and I hate watching the neverending bitching potentially ruin it.
Now if only the normal people could just pressure the dev into dropping NTR, everyone would be happy. except the cucks. But their opinion is moot.
I totally agree and love cuck content

Nobody is happy with the middle ground, I say either go HAM with it or leave it out.

Additionally, NTR isn't the only kink I appreciate. I feel like the other kinks are less developed when including lukewarm NTR- attention that could be spent going deeper into other kinks, and making them more erotic, is wasted on a small time NTR plot point.

Taken a little further, mind control and NTR seem at odds to me in general- I wouldn't imagine most people like both completely dominating people against their will AND being completely humiliated by the autonomous decisions of others.
 

RandomGuy99

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what new in this update i didn't see any ntr scene.
This is a very small update, i would recommend skip it and wait next update.
Scenes:
Diane Scene When she was caught by Carl. She have another scene at the office with Carl
Olivia Naked scene with Carl
Sara Scene with Mafia at the end

To trigger this scenes, you have to be a loser. Not sure why ppl like to play this route.
It doesnt make sense when you have superpower but weaker mentally than a normal man. Maybe i just dislike NTR stories :cautious:

Also Ashley clothes are not consistent in this update
 

Koronak

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my only guess I'd chosen too much of a strong reaction at one point and so it was about to move over to non-ntr stuff or something and so I'd then need the other version
I checked full weak way, and get the same result. So i misunderstood why 4 months of development gave us only 2 small scenes.
4.5 nonntr was much larger
 

RandomGuy99

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He's the main antagonist. Of course he's in the story. Just grow a pair and tell him to fuck off when he tries to make a move. The game gives you the option to either be a wimp or stand up for the things you care about. So just dont be a wimp and all will be fine in that department. I'm not a fan of NTR myself and would not be playing the game if not given that agency.
The main antagonist suppose be the death god no ? Carl should be sub antagonist. The part where Carl is trying to screw MC at every turn does not sit well with me. If MC is a weak person he would have ran away, staying and being tortured constantly by Carl means he will fight. So i feel this direction is quite forced
 

Satyr90

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To trigger this scenes, you have to be a loser. Not sure why ppl like to play this route.
It doesnt make sense when you have superpower but weaker mentally than a normal man. Maybe i just dislike NTR stories :cautious:

Also Ashley clothes are not consistent in this update
I'll admit while playing it I had to force myself to go down that path just to find out what would've happened. Personally I would've linked trying to be good or moral with the NTR. So that way if you're trying to be a nice person and help people Carl would try to break you aka turn you into a cuck. So the gamer would have to try to find some way to balance being a dick with being a nice person in order to play the game without completely corrupting all the women in his life. I thought that would make more sense however the NTR is still better in this game than in others. I just got done playing an NTR game where the girl just continuously got raped by the villain until she liked it. That was fucked up.
 

longjohngold

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I checked full weak way, and get the same result. So i misunderstood why 4 months of development gave us only 2 small scenes.
4.5 nonntr was much larger
I think it's bugged and not supposed to end there maybe?

Like I said I can load a save I had from when I played Episode 3, and I don't know if that's a strong or weak one as they got a bit jumbled... but it's got the content there... and then when I kept going there was more other content that I'd not seen (though it wasn't ntr stuff)... so I'm really confused... either the game wasn't supposed to stop at that point and he forgot to take out a "thanks for playing" jump... or the NTR route is 1/2 the length of the non-ntr one and the NTR download contains all the content from the one for some reason (in which case I don't get why it's split, especially as the rape scene is still removed in the NTR one)...
 
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