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Well, whatever happened is happened. It's not present dev's (Sihil) fault. I only hope Sihil in his next projects to not mix NTR & Non-NTR in the same game again.
That title is a misnomer. Episode 4 was released in two parts. The first part extended the "non-NTR path," and the second part extended the "NTR path." So the "non ntr version only" was essentially 4.1, while the other was 4.2. (The NTR and non-NTR paths split part-way through Episode 3.)The "non ntr version only" in the op, has it had all the ntr bits edited out of it? Or is it the same game?
On one hand, the politics of a writer will inevitably bleed into a game whether he intends it or not. On the other, I don't consider myself an SJW, ironically or otherwise. Also, to be clear, I'm not an American or even a Westerner.BTW. Am I the only one finding all those cheap anti-racist anti-homophobic pro-progressive moralizing out of place in the game about mafia, killing people, raping women in front of our eyes and normalizing incest? I think people come here after a hard day filled with SJW, religion or media propaganda to take a break from all this crap. I don't want the erotic game to moralize me, it's ridiculous.
I will freely admit I am so incredibly sick and tired of seeing the religion of diversity and inclusion shoehorned into everything these days, and I am so biased against it, I probably see it when it isn't there.On one hand, the politics of a writer will inevitably bleed into a game whether he intends it or not. On the other, I don't consider myself an SJW, ironically or otherwise. Also, to be clear, I'm not an American or even a Westerner.
I'm not even exactly sure how you read this into the game, to be perfectly honest. I guess you ianterpreted the racist bullying of Sonny as me making some anti-racist statement? The fact is that I simply intended it the mafia in the game to be somewhat recognizable from the real world mafia who are pretty racist.
Genuinely don't know how the game is anti- or pro-homophobic as it doesn't even have any real gay people in it.
So yeah, I am very aware that this is a sex game, I'm not trying to make any grand statements about politics, especially American, the MC is pretty political, even though Ashley is obviously leftist, because you know, punk rock, I'm kind of dancing around the fact that in real life, people who'd share her belief will almost always have some communist tendencies. Sara is pretty right-wing from the paper she wrote, which was influenced by the real-life paper that I can't find right now and I don't think I have (intentionally) made her look stupid. Carl is obviously a social Darwinist and Zel is literally a Hobbesian. That's about as right-wing as you can go.
TL;DR: The game is not intended to be political but with so many people playing it, I can see how at least some would take a message that I didn't intend.
The mafia are actually not exactly racist IRL, to them, money is the most important thing and it doesn't have a race. The biggest example I can remember is Michael Franzese working with several black people like Al Sharpton and Don King in Operation Shadowboxing, or John Alite the Albanian working very closely with John Gotti junior.The fact is that I simply intended it the mafia in the game to be somewhat recognizable from the real world mafia who are pretty racist.
How would you know that for certain about Mafia / underworld?The mafia are actually not exactly racist IRL, to them, money is the most important thing and it doesn't have a race. The biggest example I can remember is Michael Franzese working with several black people like Al Sharpton and Don King in Operation Shadowboxing, or John Alite the Albanian working very closely with John Gotti junior.
Sure, there are racists in the mafia, and sure, you do have to have an Italian father to be a made guy, but there are racists everywhere, and being a made guy is not the be-all and end-all of the mafia.
On one hand, the politics of a writer will inevitably bleed into a game whether he intends it or not. On the other, I don't consider myself an SJW, ironically or otherwise. Also, to be clear, I'm not an American or even a Westerner.
I'm not even exactly sure how you read this into the game, to be perfectly honest. I guess you interpreted the racist bullying of Sonny as me making some anti-racist statement? The fact is that I simply intended it the mafia in the game to be somewhat recognizable from the real world mafia who are pretty racist.
Genuinely don't know how the game is anti- or pro-homophobic as it doesn't even have any real gay people in it.
So yeah, I am very aware that this is a sex game, I'm not trying to make any grand statements about politics, especially American. The MC is pretty apolitical, even though Ashley is obviously leftist, because you know, punk rock, I'm kind of dancing around the fact that in real life, people who'd share her belief will almost always have some communist tendencies. Sara is pretty right-wing from the paper she wrote, which was influenced by the real-life paper that I can't find right now and I don't think I have (intentionally) made her look stupid. Carl is obviously a social Darwinist and Zel is literally a Hobbesian. That's about as right-wing as you can go.
TL;DR: The game is not intended to be political but with so many people playing it, I can see how at least some would take a message that I didn't intend.
Thank you, my colorful friend, for putting this concisely, if a little bluntly.I would completely agree with the dev here, it is your story and you have a right to narrate your story whichever way you see fit.
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Additionally, there is no need for players to try and read too much between the lines, or to take home life lessons from the game on politics, sexuality, racism, crime syndicate, drug abuse or supernatural stuffs also.
It is a nice fictional supernatural game and people should play it to enjoy, relax or fap rather than spewing fabricating conspiracy theories exposing their personal psychological prejudice or insecurities.
Yes, if you want play with NTR you have to restart the game hehehehi guys i write u for understand if i must restart the game for playing the NTR scene
If you're making NTR choices from the beginning, then no.hi guys i write u for understand if i must restart the game for playing the NTR scene
so what happened ?Hi,
I wanted to confirm that the game is over. Sorry for that I wish that it would it turned out differently ;(