VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lord of Imagination [Ep. 4.5 NTR] [AgentGames]

[ijako3]

Non-NTR path doesn't have to ruin the game. The general reason for NTR was to show how powerful the mafia is and they can take whatever they want whenver they want. This still happens in the non-NTR path, but instead of fucking your girls they beat you up and force you to work under the threat of NTR.

Don't get me wrong, im not against NTR or against non-ntr, but i feel like it's their first game and they planned the game from the ground up in that specific way of having NTR and in my opinion it's cool that they did some changes to quickly and listened to the feedback.

It will take some time to make it all work together based on the devs vision and the feedback they take, but sadly good chunk of people will just start raging and calling names, throwing insults at everybody instead of actually providing some better feedback or just wait for how the story unfolds in the future updates.

But maybe im not even that surprised, there's lately so much negativity on this forum and many new games threads get's a feel of that.

 

[JokerLeader]

It would be nice to have a scene, any scene but I understand why it wasn't there for the hotfix since it's easier to write a scene than make renders and animate them. If they didn't add that hotfix we'd have non-NTR in 0.2 and they probably want feedback on those paths before 0.2 so they have the time to re-write. The "non-NTR" where you just turn away from the rape happening should be remade into an actual non-NTR or removed because the beating one sets up MCs fight well enough.

I agree, maybe in the future they re-wright that part, but we can only hope to become better in the next update.
As farthe Game is now, it's not a bad choice, it's something that could be great or not, but we willhave to wait to see the next update.

And thanks for being a great Guy or Girl can tell by the name sorry,i see a lot of pepole in here just ofending other instead of having a real debate,for that thanks.

 

[ProofreadingRUS]

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is she not worthy of a name?..WTF..STOP THAT...sighhhh..we get it..making sure patreon dosnt ban you for mother fucking..but to address her like that is just retarded writing..GIVE HER A NAME!!!!

Use the patch Luke. The patch is with you.

 

[AgentGames]

There is no 'hidden NTR' - it's just your imagination that makes you think something happens behind your back. The demon clearly says that they were only talking and even explains it by drawing our attention to Sara's behavior - she didn't have a chance to relief her sexual tension (hint - because no one fucked her!).

If you assume something happens based on the NTR path - sorry, but we can't do anything about it. It just happens in the other path and it doesn't happen in that path, it's just the same place with the same characters but the story is different.

 

[RedPillBlues]

Too bad, I was actually quite hopeful for this update, but this seems to come from a place of spite. "'Hey guys here's 2 'non-ntr' routes but one isn't actually, and the other we made the MC as pathetic as we could.'"

 

[ProofreadingRUS]

Too bad, I was actually quite hopeful for this update, but this seems to come from a place of spite. "'Hey guys here's 2 'non-ntr' routes but one isn't actually, and the other we made the MC as pathetic as we could.'"

Arent all the mcs in all the games like that?

 

[RedPillBlues]

Arent all the mcs in all the games like that?

In games like these, usually.

 

[JohnJG]

The NTR and Non NTR debate rages on.

 

[ijako3]

There is no 'hidden NTR' - it's just your imagination that makes you think something happens behind your back. The demon clearly says that they were only talking and even explains it by drawing our attention to Sara's behavior - she didn't have a chance to relief her sexual tension (hint - because no one fucked her!).

If you assume something happens based on the NTR path - sorry, but we can't do anything about it. It just happens in the other path and it doesn't happen in that path, it's just the same place with the same characters but the story is different.

Well that settles it then, thanks for clarifying.

 

[Gervoh]

There is no 'hidden NTR' - it's just your imagination that makes you think something happens behind your back. The demon clearly says that they were only talking and even explains it by drawing our attention to Sara's behavior - she didn't have a chance to relief her sexual tension (hint - because no one fucked her!).

If you assume something happens based on the NTR path - sorry, but we can't do anything about it. It just happens in the other path and it doesn't happen in that path, it's just the same place with the same characters but the story is different.

That's what I get for listening to people with irrational hate for NTR instead of playing through myself. Didn't even know about that.

Hmm, that changes a lot. I just assumed that one path would be to look away and try dealing with them withouh interrupting while the other would be taking a hit in order to defend them, but after you specified that nothing happens I dunno which one will be better. Guess it's time to check both paths myself.

 

[Riitesh]

That's what I get for listening to people with irrational hate for NTR instead of playing through myself. Didn't even know about that.

Hmm, that changes a lot. I just assumed that one path would be to look away and try dealing with them withouh interrupting while the other would be taking a hit in order to defend them, but after you specified that nothing happens I dunno which one will be better. Guess it's time to check both paths myself.

The 2nd one which dev described.

 

[Gervoh]

Don't get me wrong, im not against NTR or against non-ntr, but i feel like it's their first game and they planned the game from the ground up in that specific way of having NTR and in my opinion it's cool that they did some changes to quickly and listened to the feedback.

It will take some time to make it all work together based on the devs vision and the feedback they take, but sadly good chunk of people will just start raging and calling names, throwing insults at everybody instead of actually providing some better feedback or just wait for how the story unfolds in the future updates.

But maybe im not even that surprised, there's lately so much negativity on this forum and many new games threads get's a feel of that.

I still have no idea what causes that paranoia around NTR. Are porn game players just immersing themselves so much that the characters become their family? They could play D&D and probably be amazing with this much roleplaying, although they could really hurt somebody if something bad happened.

 

[dce8383]

I find it amusing how incredibly polarizing NTR is... every game that has it, endless debates ensue. It's also interesting that there seem to be very few middle ground people, i.e. people who don't care one way or the other. Most other fetishes have a range of how much someone likes, hates or just doesn't care... but NTR seems binary; love it, or hate it... no middle ground.

Just an observation...

 

[Gervoh]

I don't get why people are going so crazy over NTR/non-NTR. At the end of the day, this is a porn game, not high art or fine literature. Sure, there are porn games with really well written and thought out plots and dialogue. But this is game is definitely more in the "porn/fantasy fulfilment" camp than the "finely crafted erotic story" camp.

If the dev wants to include a non-NTR path to appeal to a greater number of people, why shouldn't they? It's not like NTR is fundamental to this game like many NTR games are.

Also the NTR tag should probably be separated into "Optional NTR" and "Forced NTR" tags to give a better summary of what the game actually includes.

Games like "Freeloading Family" have an NTR tag because you can see your sister having oral sex with her girl best friend while the MC bones everything that moves, which is something they agreed on - they are free to do anything sexual.

Hell, sharing and swinging gets an NTR tag. And they are player choices.

 

[DarkSithLord47]

There is no 'hidden NTR' - it's just your imagination that makes you think something happens behind your back. The demon clearly says that they were only talking and even explains it by drawing our attention to Sara's behavior - she didn't have a chance to relief her sexual tension (hint - because no one fucked her!).

If you assume something happens based on the NTR path - sorry, but we can't do anything about it. It just happens in the other path and it doesn't happen in that path, it's just the same place with the same characters but the story is different.

Dude here's an advice (and i hate ntr from the bottom of my heart) : its obvious that you dont like making non-ntr content so stop it,feeding bread crumbs to the players who dont like ntr isn't gonna get you their support and all your work will be in vain.either make a pleasurable experience for both sides as you stated in your dev notes or dont bother with it and go full ntr as i imagine you wanted from the start.it will keep the fights to a minimum and wont feed false hopes to the ones thinking this could ever be a 50-50 content game.Just my 2 cents...

 

[JokerLeader]

That's what I get for listening to people with irrational hate for NTR instead of playing through myself. Didn't even know about that.

Hmm, that changes a lot. I just assumed that one path would be to look away and try dealing with them withouh interrupting while the other would be taking a hit in order to defend them, but after you specified that nothing happens I dunno which one will be better. Guess it's time to check both paths myself.

You have a Non NTR choice to not watch the dude with the mom, i think they are refering to that choice

 

[Gervoh]

Dude here's an advice (and i hate ntr from the bottom of my heart) : its obvious that you dont like making non-ntr content so stop it,feeding bread crumbs to the players who dont like ntr isn't gonna get you their support and all your work will be in vain.either make a pleasurable experience for both sides as you stated in your dev notes or dont bother with it and go full ntr as i imagine you wanted from the start.it will keep the fights to a minimum and wont feed false hopes to the ones thinking this could ever be a 50-50 content game.Just my 2 cents...

But why couldn't it be a 50/50? My Hunting Adventure is clearly an NTR game through and through, but the dev made a non-NTR path that features different characters and unique scenes. With the latest update non-NTR content overtook NTR by 1 or 2 scenes.

 

[Gervoh]

You have a Non NTR choice to not watch the dude with the mom, i think they are refering to that choice

Yeah but I though you decide to not watch them have sex but the Dev just cleared up that nothing happened there. Even the demon stated that she couldn't get herself off because they didn't do anything and up to this point every path ended with her watching the sex and masturbating.

 

[Canto Forte]

Why can't everyone think of this like westworld ... rail them ralph 1 and 2 or even matrix. It is clear in this game world, NPCs put out in either route, like a revolving red light district pleasure all nighter where the gals handle both alpha and beta, both sub and dom .. all for The Glory Of Gaming!
Game On!

 

[DarkSithLord47]

But why couldn't it be a 50/50? My Hunting Adventure is clearly an NTR game through and through, but the dev made a non-NTR path that features different characters and unique scenes. With the latest update non-NTR content overtook NTR by 1 or 2 scenes.

are we even talking about the same game anymore? either i'm in the wrong thread or you got some extra scenes that nobody knows about. In this update on the non-ntr path you get 0 (as in zero) content with the mother and you stay there and tell everyone that the non-ntr scenes overtook the ntr ones by 1 or 2? i dont know what you're smoking buddy but you better quit it before typing such comments