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I dont think we can kill zel even at the end of the game. But yeah, may be we can make her as slave to MC in corruption path.
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I do not understand this game. Why is the MC trying to fuck over Carl if when you are on the Strong Path he is nothing but a mentor figure. Teaching you how to use your powers to eventually he can give you control of the cult. Like I'm playing the game and MC just keeps on shitting on Carl and trying to undermine him. What even is this story. I'm so confused. Plus the sex scenes are so far between I'm forgetting this is supposed to be a sex game.
I'm seriously considering making a walkthrough of my own.
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Didn't stop, in fact we animated one just last month. THe problem is that for now, we can only add one animation per update. And what scene will be animated depends on the poll results.
Now I'm all for respecting opinions and I do respect yours but I'm assuming you were there when the first update got out (I wasn't.) People were so pissed off with the game they were literally sending Sznuk death threats. Now I never claimed to be a good writer, merely someone who enjoys writing this game but I can proudly say the number of death threats have dropped to a perfect zero since I took over.
Yes, assuming you haven't used DL on Sara AND gotten Ashley captured you'll get the sex scene you're owed in the next update. It just didn't make sense to shove in a sex scene after a cliffhanger. We could have had the sex scene before that scene but that'd have meant some serious rearranging, this just seemed the easier (lazier) way out.
Use Darklight on her while she's about to give you a blowjob in episode 2.
I like this quote, yeah it sums up Thainendra's ideology quite well but he's also committing the mass-murder for a different reason. While he does believe all of this, it also serves as a smoke-screen for his true intentions.
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Yes, there are little to no animations, but renders are good if not best. And as this game contains NTR, we can't expect much people to support this game, for dev to buy better assets or graphic animations.
And for carl, even though he looks like as mentor, he always threaten you by giving NTR warnings. Those warnings are enough to hate that guy & wish to defeat him, even though we won't select those NTR options. You may say "Carl is doing that to help MC to become strong but not a beta". May be, but the way he treats you is enough to hate him. I mean, lot of non ntr fans already hate him and sees him as one of antagonist if not the ultimate villain (becoz we have thainedra for that).
Yeah, that was weird. I actually missed it and did another playthrough when I saw your comment. I already had 2 different playthroughs (both non-NTR, but one as a "good guy" where I don't use darklight if I can avoid it and don't kill anyone and one as a "villain" using it at every chance I get and killing anyone I can) and still didn't get that scene, because I didn't want to follow Zel's advice in the evil path and didn't ask for her help to find the killer.
Anyway, the whole broken thing didn't bother me that much, as it only happened in my villain playthrough and it kinda makes sense, but turning her into a slut in general isn't really my thing. And the fact that Zel said you can stop her from being a camgirl, pornstar, whore or whatever the fuck she means by doing bdsm, but never really got that option was a bit annoying, because like I said I'm not going for NTR in any of my playthroughs and it seems that's where she's heading, if she's not already there. Also I agree, her transformation could have been done in a hotter, sexier way, and not just turn her into a cheap whore.
The rest of the update was really good though, especially the progress we made with Sara. I also got two completely different endings in the two different paths I followed, so it will be interesting to see how much the good vs evil paths will differentiate from each other in the future.
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olivia is so hot. looks like josie from badik
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Both are moraly corrupt from James point of view and i really doubt Thainedra intends to create a paradise on Earth for the few he decides to spare after killing billions. He holds human life in contempt from his dialogues.
And about his "honor sense" i have to agree with Zelphryna, it simply makes him predictible in what twisted ways he will use to kill the ones he perceives as evil.
One interesting thing is that Zelphryna mentions he shouldn't be that strong so maybe he is taking powers from the kills his avatars do? The same way Zel gains powers from sexual acts practiced by her avatars (the more deprevaded the better)? For obvious reasons that would put the "old man" in advantage since James, Carl and the others can't fuck people as fast as Thainedra's avatars can kill them.
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I don't know what exactly Thainedra want's to do with the humans or how his version of a good humanity looks like, sure is, he too follows his own goals and isn't some good Samaritan, which wants to create a utopia as humans imagine it.
For his Honor, yes it makes him more predictable, but i don't think he lies to the MC (of course he also don't tell him all his plans), and i think he stands to his word, something Zel doesn't do.
So yes both are bad choices imo, but so far as i understand it, the MC has only power bacause he is linked to Zel, or Thainedra if he switches sides, as the two of them are the only beings in this realm which can generate/access magic/void + he can't use his powers to kill other followers of the same side.
This makes it kinda hard for a third way in which he beats both sides...
Powers from the kills, would be interesting and fitting with 'the god of death'.
But would it really be surprising for Zel ? I mean he destroyed at least one of her planets, so she would likely have notice it.
I had more the impression that he has some kind of deal with Zel's mother, maybe she gave him a boost in power. From what we hear she sounds like a powerfull god and i think Thainedra said something, she wanted Zel's body...
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not in my playthrough. Carl has been nothing but kind to me, stern, but kind. I just feel like He's getting a bad wrap for no reason.
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I don't know what path you played, but i played both good & corrupted non-ntr paths, & i will still say I hate guy & you hear the same from most of non-ntr players too.
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Rather than introducing a new character, the dev has Carl essentially fulfill three separate functions: mentor, mid-level antagonist, and NTR villain. There are strengths and weaknesses to this approach (keeps the cast more managable, for one thing), but it does mean you will see radically different sides to his personality depending on your choices.
No matter what path you take, Carl starts the game repeatedly threatening the MC's family and loved ones. Some may read this as being stern, others may take it at face value.
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Not forgetting those who once saw the original scene with Carl and know it will come back on the NTRpath likely will either never trust him or are waiting for the scene to return with baited breath.
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I didn't seen yet i assumed he is some type of NTR villain. I mean, he is BBC & threatening family, so what else would you think lol? It's open secret. He is there to cuck you if you fail. That's the big reason for non-ntr guys to hate him even thought they won't play NTR path. Fortunately MC which we are playing also thinks like us. He said something (not exactly) like "he may not be the villain, but he threatened my family. So, I want to defeat him".Not forgetting those who once saw the original scene with Carl and know it will come back on the NTRpath likely will either never trust him or are waiting for the scene to return with baited breath.
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You see very soon that Carl's on his own side and you cannot achieve/gain nothing. Here MC's the anti-MC (a complete loser for now). Zel's playing with both (Carl and the MC) for her own amusement, hiding from her own hunting, so both of them will be killed soon or after I guess. In all path followed I believe that Carl's the enemy to defeat even if he's your mentor (it would be this or nothing, pulling a bullet on his bold head should be the only end so he's a rat) and soon Zel should be disciplined (I hope, let me dream) for all that teasing..
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Looks like many players want to make zel as some kind of slave for MC lol. Afterall she is the goddess of lies & corruption. So, why not use her own power against her?
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Despite what she says it seems obvious Zelphryna still wants Carl in the game: he is powerfull, smart and has lots of connections. Even if James has the potential to become her best champion doubt she will let go of the others too. She will likely continue her manipulation to keep both of them close by.
So i don't think James can outwit Zel and turn her into a sex slave. However there may be possible to build some trust there, since there are a few moments when she actually looks genuine in her reactions as noted by the protagonist.
So i don't think James can outwit Zel and turn her into a sex slave. However there may be possible to build some trust there, since there are a few moments when she actually looks genuine in her reactions as noted by the protagonist.
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who knows what happen in future?Despite what she says it seems obvious Zelphryna still wants Carl in the game: he is powerfull, smart and has lots of connections. Even if James has the potential to become her best champion doubt she will let go of the others too. She will likely continue her manipulation to keep both of them close by.
So i don't think James can outwit Zel and turn her into a sex slave. However there may be possible to build some trust there, since there are a few moments when she actually looks genuine in her reactions as noted by the protagonist.
My Theory:
At present, I agree MC is nothing compare to carl, but MC is developing day by day, the more he go into corruption route the more he is becoming evil. In future, there may be some moments, even zel can't control MC's actions & choices. And, after that, the deeper we go, the more control we get on zel. It's obvious. Otherwise there is no meaning to "male protagonist" game which has a domination evil route. There is one scene, where we have to choice, "try to fight back", even though we didn't win, she lost some blood from nose. I don't know what does it mean, but clearly zel dont have ultimate power to mold people. She acts like she have that power, but no. That's why she won't stop some of carl actions even though she is not okay with it.
I'm saying all this in non-ntr evil mode. But yes, I think zel & MC will become some kind of lovers in NON-NTR good route. For NTR (I didn't played it because i'm not into it). But it's open secret that we all know what happens will NTR route. So many ntr games already shown what will happen to BETA CUCK MC.