VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lord of Imagination [Ep. 4.5 NTR] [AgentGames]

[Davner]

So the writers of this game took out the unavoidable NTR because people didn't like it?
Wow. I am not a Fan of it myself but seems like Sonic the Hedgehog movie complaining

 

[Raziel_8]

I like the update as well as if had netori, I don't give a shit! I mean it sincerely. Good renders and animations.

I think u mean netorare, i don't think i ever saw complains because of netori.
The renders are good, there aren't much animations thought.

Results so far in the poll:
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= 5919 votes...!? Ook..

----> 559 likes in the main post.
----> 104 patreons


I think we all understand that this poll is not worth shit.

Some people's lives have to be really boring and sad.

And why does the poll mean shit ? Do u know why the dev even made it.

I forget to like many games i played, that doesn't mean much.

Many games which try to appeal non ntr & ntr playerbase have a difficulties to get supporters. Ntr base is more niche, many from the non ntr base won't support anything with ntr for varius reasons, like don't want to pay if they will never see half of the game, slow progress because ntr/non ntr updates in alternation...

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

who knows what happen in future?

My Theory:

At present, I agree MC is nothing compare to carl, but MC is developing day by day, the more he go into corruption route the more he is becoming evil. In future, there may be some moments, even zel can't control MC's actions & choices. And, after that, the deeper we go, the more control we get on zel. It's obvious. Otherwise there is no meaning to "male protagonist" game which has a domination evil route. There is one scene, where we have to choice, "try to fight back", even though we didn't win, she lost some blood from nose. I don't know what does it mean, but clearly zel dont have ultimate power to mold people. She acts like she have that power, but no. That's why she won't stop some of carl actions even though she is not okay with it.

I'm saying all this in non-ntr evil mode. But yes, I think zel & MC will become some kind of lovers in NON-NTR good route. For NTR (I didn't played it because i'm not into it). But it's open secret that we all know what happens will NTR route. So many ntr games already shown what will happen to BETA CUCK MC.

Zel already said her powers are mostly depleted after the last purge during a conversation with James. after all not like she could lie about that after getting her ass handed to her by Thainedra.
By the way i was checking the walkthrough mod and it seems there is a variable for affection with Zelphryna now in this update. But i am not so sure it is on the good path instead of the evil one.

So the writers of this game took out the unavoidable NTR because people didn't like it?
Wow. I am not a Fan of it myself but seems like Sonic the Hedgehog movie complaining

No.They are dividing the updates by routes. This time it was the corruption route and next update will be the NTR route.

 

[Raziel_8]

Zel already said her powers are mostly depleted after the last purge during a conversation with James. after all not like she could lie about that after getting her ass handed to her by Thainedra.
By the way i was checking the walkthrough mod and it seems there is a variable for affection with Zelphryna now in this update. But i am not so sure it is on the good path instead of the evil one.

IIRC i think u get affaction for calling the cop as Zel suggest and i think one for not blaming her for the situation the MC is in. I don't think it has anything to with good/evil path.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

IIRC i think u get affaction for calling the cop as Zel suggest and i think one for not blaming her for the situation the MC is in. I don't think it has anything to with good/evil path.

There is another at the end of the corruption path if James says he wants a reward now to Zelphryna. And knowing Zel the reward is likely his sister.

 

[Raziel_8]

There is another at the end of the corruption path if James says he wants a reward now to Zelphryna. And knowing Zel the reward is likely his sister.

U mean when the sister is captured.
Can't that also happen on the good path ? I think that happens if u don't call the cop.

Yes that cliffhanger...can't wait for what will happen.

 

[manman232]

MAn I just want Zel for the most part.. Such a tease.. Lol

 

[harsha_26]

There is another at the end of the corruption path if James says he wants a reward now to Zelphryna. And knowing Zel the reward is likely his sister.

But zel said, MC will also enjoy that reward. I still doubt it is about sister. But, even if it is, i'm sensing threesome.

 

[Avaron1974]

lol at the goddess telling you to have kids with the milf. is she even fertile anymore ?

I take it you haven't got to biology yet.

 

[harsha_26]

Zel already said her powers are mostly depleted after the last purge during a conversation with James. after all not like she could lie about that after getting her ass handed to her by Thainedra.
By the way i was checking the walkthrough mod and it seems there is a variable for affection with Zelphryna now in this update. But i am not so sure it is on the good path instead of the evil one.

Zel affection variables, i think they are on both good & evil routes. Options seems like kind of mixed bag sometimes. I observed you are using "james" instead of MC. So, I don't think you are able to "feel" it what is exactly going on. This story is clearly made for immersion. Thats why you won't see MC's face most of the time. It's like they are talking to you. I know mostly ntr fans does these default name usage. (because they dont like to think themsleves of cucks, but enjoy ntr like porn hub) or female players (for obvious reasons) does this. Calling MC by his default name, It's confusing for us because lot of non-ntr players call him as MC instead of James (yeah.. reasons) . You also seem to appreciate Carl & Zel but downside james (i agree MC is weak FOR NOW.) You are not even giving some future encouragement for him to become strong. May be that's why you are not able to understand the fact MC is getting stronger and stronger atleast in non-ntr paths (specially in evil dominated route, mostly based on darklights & willpower points.).

I think, Your downside thoughts on MC, upside thoughts for carl & zel perfectly work on ntr route & i think you will enjoy if it's your preferred route because your thoughts & theories may reflect on that path perfectly.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Zel affection variables, i think they are on both good & evil routes. Options seems like kind of mixed bag sometimes. I observed you are using "james" instead of MC. So, I don't think you are able to "feel" it what is exactly going on. This story is clearly made for immersion. Thats why you won't see MC's face most of the time. It's like they are talking to you. I know mostly ntr fans does these default name usage. (because they dont like to think themsleves of cucks, but enjoy ntr like porn hub) or female players (for obvious reasons) does this. Calling MC by his default name, It's confusing for us because lot of non-ntr players call him as MC instead of James (yeah.. reasons) . You also seem to appreciate Carl & Zel but downside james (i agree MC is weak FOR NOW.) You are not even giving some future encouragement for him to become strong. May be that's why you are not able to understand the fact MC is getting stronger and stronger atleast in non-ntr paths (specially in evil dominated route, mostly based on darklights & willpower points.).

I think, Your downside thoughts on MC, upside thoughts for carl & zel perfectly work on ntr route & i think you will enjoy if it's your preferred route because your thoughts & theories may reflect on that path perfectly.

You are way off the mark with your psych evaluation there...

*First i call him James because that is his default name and i always prefer to use them when a game permit it.

*Second immersion is done more via dialogue choices than by camera POV. That is the moment a player can insert their own moral compass in the game (also having a good story helps). Within reason of course since freedom of choice can only happen inside the range already choosen by the developers.

*Third i am not really a ntr fan, i simply don't hate it like some more feral people around F95.

*Fourth. How did you reach the conclusion that i can't understand James is getting more skilled? I never said that.
I am simply pointing out what the game shows. Zel has been playing James long before he realized she is real and Carl just made his right hand man manipulate James into taking out a greedy mafia lieutenant. His only allies inside the mafia are Pete and those two swindlers he blackmailed.
Add to that the fact he still can't control his darklight powers well as proved by what happens to the cop and it is obvious to see how James is far from ready.

 

[harsha_26]

You are way off the mark with your psych evaluation there...

*First i call him James because that is his default name and i always prefer to use them when a game permit it.

*Second immersion is done more via dialogue choices than by camera POV. That is the moment a player can insert their own moral compass in the game (also having a good story helps). Within reason of course since freedom of choice can only happen inside the range already choosen by the developers.

*Third i am not really a ntr fan, i simply don't hate it like some more feral people around F95.

*Fourth. How did you reach the conclusion that i can't understand James is getting more skilled? I never said that.
I am simply pointing out what the game shows. Zel has been playing James long before he realized she is real and Carl just made his right hand man manipulate James into taking out a greedy mafia lieutenant. His only allies inside the mafia are Pete and those two swindlers he blackmailed.
Add to that the fact he still can't control his darklight powers well as proved by what happens to the cop and it is obvious to see how James is far from ready.

And yes, the game will have more dialogue choices further. Camera pov won't matter to you but lot of immersion fans cares for camera POV too. And I never said you are ntr fan. I just said your thoughts seems like they reflect exactly in NTR. But i may be completely wrong since i haven't played it and don't even want to know it lol. Anyway, atleast it's proved right that you are not really a immersive player (if not a ntr fan or female player). So, feelings towards the game, and the way we feel it completely differs. I want my MC to be top and always hope and make theories and wish. Where as players like you, just care for story and characters but not particuarly about MC (in ur case JAMES, just a story character).

And yes, Zel is playing with james's mind long before, yes, carl is so much powerful. But, it will change. Otherwise, there is no point in playing this game in non ntr paths.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

And yes, the game will have more dialogue choices further. Camera pov won't matter to you but lot of immersion fans cares for camera POV too. And I never said you are ntr fan. I just said your thoughts seems like they reflect exactly in NTR. But i may be completely wrong since i haven't played it and don't even want to know it lol. Anyway, atleast it's proved right that you are not really a immersive player (if not a ntr fan or female player). So, feelings towards the game, and the way we feel it completely differs. I want my MC to be top and always hope and make theories and wish. Where as players like you, just care for story and characters but not particuarly about MC (in ur case JAMES, just a story character).

And yes, Zel is playing with james's mind long before, carl is so much powerful. But, it will change. Otherwise, there is no point in playing this game in non ntr paths.

You missed the point again. Quit with the "you are not a immersive player" nonsense. Just because you play one way it does not make it the norm for everyone else.

 

[harsha_26]

You missed the point again. Quit with the "you are not a immersive player" nonsense. Just because you play one way it does not make it the norm for everyone else.

LOL, When did i ever said it's the norm? I just said our feelings are different towards this game. And that's completely okay.

 

[3D Reaver]

I take it you haven't got to biology yet.

have you ? women in their mid 40s are pretty much done and the children are likely to have issues, add in inbreeding and its a recipe for disaster. My post was a joke but if you're going to insult me you could at least know what you're talking about.

 

[harsha_26]

have you ? women in their mid 40s are pretty much done and the children are likely to have issues, add in inbreeding and its a recipe for disaster. My post was a joke but if you're going to insult me you could at least know what you're talking about.

Do you realize it's a fantasy dark magic story right? So, even if you are right about old age mom & inbreed danger, i think it will be alright because of darklight powers.

 

[Avaron1974]

have you ? women in their mid 40s are pretty much done and the children are likely to have issues, add in inbreeding and its a recipe for disaster. My post was a joke but if you're going to insult me you could at least know what you're talking about.

Most women in their 40's can very much still have kids unless they already have health problems and it takes several generations of inbreeding before problems arise.

You were saying sweety?

 

[3D Reaver]

Do you realize it's a fantasy dark magic story right? So, even if you are right about old age mom & inbreed danger, i think it will be alright because of darklight powers.

I already said it was a joke. if the dev adds pregnancy we all know its going to turn out well because doing otherwise would be stupid and needlessly cruel to the players.

Most women in their 40's can very much still have kids unless they already have health problems and it takes several generations of inbreeding before problems arise.

You were saying sweety?

getting pregnant in your mid 40s is hard even if that happens miscarriage chances are really high and then there's the chance of birth defects too. inbreeding has similar effects. I don't think there is a specific study done on women in their 40s having children with their sons but one would imagine it's not good.
it doesn't take generations of inbreeding to cause issues, even between cousins the risks are much higher than the general population. between siblings and parents the risks are very high even if there is no history of inbreeding.

You really are being needlessly combative. i only made a joke. i don't expect or want miscarriage or birth defects in my porn games.

 

[ttlko]

guys，who knows how to open Sara’s ntr path with Karl？

 

[Avaron1974]

I don't care about gender, I don't give a shit. This poll sucks like shit with so many bot accounts and the worst thing is that the mod knows it.

Tinfoil cap time.