that`s normal not a moral. middle between moral|immoral. actually refusing to fuck drunken Diane gives "moral" exp to you. that`s why i`m not sure about "moral" options. Informed Consent gives nothing in morality department (charlie for example)
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It's okay, you get morality points for carrying Gina to her room after assaulting her! These acts balance out.
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Moral/Immoral isn't fully ironed out yet. I knew I'd need moral for Aunt Karen, and immoral for all the sleep assault stuff already in the game, so I've made a basic outline for both skills, but what is currently offered is more or less temporary until they have more of a presence in the game. Kinda like Order and Disorder. Two builds ago, rudeness and chores were the only tags that mattered for those two skills.
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Ugh.. You've got me trying to remember crap from that one Philosophy class I took decades ago...
Short version: Since morality is largely influenced by societal norms, 'normal' and 'moral' should be pretty close.
But before I accidently de-rail the thread, lets me try to keep it to an 'in a game' application...
The way most games approach it is good-indifferent-bad or good-neutral-evil.
In games 'good' usually requires some form of sacrifice, of giving something up that you want.
You want to fuck mom, you can (because she's drunk enough to let it happen), but you don't (because she's too drunk for the 'informed' part of consent). You're a good boy, you get a cookie in the form of 'moral xp'.
You want to fuck Charlie, you can, you do. It's 'moral' in the sense that it's not 'immoral', but nothing given up, so no cookie.
You want to fuck mom, you can (because she's drunk enough to let it happen), you do ('informed' be damned
). Bad boy! You get 'immoral' points.The pattern seems to fit with xp earnings in the game thus far.
Oooo.. Auntie sounds like a tough nut to crack.
No worries, I've got my Vulcan like logic all ready to go.
"Ya see, Auntie. It's in-breeding that's the problem. As long as we're using birth-control, there's nothing at all wrong with incest."
As far as moral actions go, 'normal' and 'moral' are actually not necessarily in line, even when doing something considered good. Like if you don't murder someone, that's a good thing, but no one will praise you for it or consider you do automatically be a great person. Or if you hold the door for someone and they don't thank you, you'll be the weird one if you get mad at them. You have to go above and beyond the minimum expectations to be considered praiseworthy or particularly moral/commendable.
In this context, carrying Gina to bed probably should give moral points. Not doing anything to Diane probably shouldn't, but this is a game and you need some kind of reward to balance out two choices.
Side note, but isn't Rudeness part of Incivility? Disorder contains Party and Illegal iirc. Was it different before?
In this context, carrying Gina to bed probably should give moral points. Not doing anything to Diane probably shouldn't, but this is a game and you need some kind of reward to balance out two choices.
Side note, but isn't Rudeness part of Incivility? Disorder contains Party and Illegal iirc. Was it different before?
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Two builds ago, outside of thier tags, the two skills gave very little in terms of value. That was my point. You got rep from one and lost rep from the other. so they balanced each other out, and that was about it. Now ...they both have thier own benefits and both benefits are worth embracing the lifestyle over. Moral/immoral are not where i want them to be yet, but ideally within another update or two I'll have them both worth pursueing, where as right now...only immoral really has any real benefits.
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New Job Finished
Gonna test tonight and then release tomorrow.
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This update especially seems like its gonna be gigantic, probably going to play with a fresh save.
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So, if I've followed the sneak-peeks in the thread properly, the new ATs for this update will be:
Diane, 6, Repressed Mother
Gina, 7, Brother Fucker
Becky, 7, Impressionable Sister
Jesse, 1, Alterna-Bitch & 2, Alterna-Girl
Sally, 1, Sweetheart
I miss any? (Asking so I don't miss anything while updating sigs
)
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There's also AT specific content for Dance Machine Morgan, Mostly A Girl Jay, and Playful Tease Tilley. If that matters.So, if I've followed the sneak-peeks in the thread properly, the new ATs for this update will be:
Diane, 6, Repressed Mother
Gina, 7, Brother Fucker
Becky, 7, Impressionable Sister
Jesse, 1, Alterna-Bitch & 2, Alterna-Girl
Sally, 1, Sweetheart
I miss any? (Asking so I don't miss anything while updating sigs
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Just wanted to make sure I got the new ATs, so shouldn't matter.
But I look forward to that new content.
TYVM
Umm... on second thought...
The backdrops I'm using for the ones I haven't posted yet:
Jesse - Charlie living room
Tilley - MC living room
Lisa - Bar
Jay, Morgan, Sally - Party
If there are (new?) backdrops you'd associate those girls with a bit more (and think it matters
), chime in.
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Jesse has her own room now.Just wanted to make sure I got the new ATs, so shouldn't matter.
But I look forward to that new content.
TYVM
Umm... on second thought...
The backdrops I'm using for the ones I haven't posted yet:
Jesse - Charlie living room
Tilley - MC living room
Lisa - Bar
Jay, Morgan, Sally - Party
If there are (new?) backdrops you'd associate those girls with a bit more (and think it matters
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Excellent.
I look forward to seeing what I think that room says about her personality
And I'll add that to my list of assets to go looking for.
Thanks again.
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Fairly late in the day if Baal's prediction holds true. It's 7:04PM where I am right now.
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For me, it WAS late in the day, at 9:40PM.fibber
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