VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love and Submission [v0.08] [veqvil]

[veqvil]

Now to clarify things: I'm not going to an all evil themed or girl sharing themed thing with the fitness route, its main idea was and still is to be the stronger and more attracting MC, meaning more girls who only love you and are yours. The option to share is just a thought I posted here and as I said can be subject to change

Sharing as a genre, in general, will absolutely be optional and again something you have to actively pick choices towards.

 

[mario1994]

Damn Good Game - wide variety of branching stories and cris-crossing points in this game There is main trunk of this splot which revolves around our hero/ demon. Which is damn interesting. Story so far is lacking in some aspects but characters and the way author have implemented them in this story is flawless. All decisions have impact on the story, even those minor ones.

Graphically is hair width below Dreams of Desire, but even in this aspec I whole heartly can give max points for details. Damn shame there is no animations/gifs or other moving images but it can be done in the future, where real action awaits US.

Damn shame that I am broke af, couse I would throw some pocket money to this author. He have potential to rival for the throne of the best Erotic Games with such games as Dreams of Desire. Couse, c'mon this games graphic is marvelous in itself. There are clear differences between Dreams of Desire and this position. But overall they stand on the same step/ tier of perfection. This little one here is only lacking in Patreons and money to make his work more mervelous than Dreams of Desire.

If I could I would throw even 1/5 of my salary if he could make this game release new updated a month faster. So people, please look it up and give a hand to this developer. He has passion for his story and game, we need more people like him to make our desires be real.

10/10 so far
Graphic 10/10
Plot 10/10 my grade for this plot which is made public so far
Gameplay 9/10.. minor bugs and glitches, but it happens when you release new versions to the public
Characters 10/10


- interesting variety of characters, in first part there were 5 characters, MC, Mom, Sis and suspicious pair having sex. Now we have at our disposal.
Potential characters 1, neighbour, new characters: Ex Gf, her brother, three thugs from which one is decent guy, and potential new pair of characters or the same pair from first scenes of the game. So we have 12 characters so far. Dateable are sis, mom, Ex Gf and interesting girl from cafe and of course neighbour. Totally so far there are 5 potential targets of our affection.

This game is better than Dreams of Desire in this way that our developer is trying to make this story more real and lifelike by adding new characters in places which dev of Dreams of Desiare would let to be empty.

Love and Submissin is in this way better that our character is less restricted in decision making than our hero from Dream of Desire. Nonethless, both stories are interesting to follow and uncover new secrets and sweet turns.

Great GAME!

 

[mario1994]

Some people commented that Graphically this game is lacking, I would like to see works of perfection in their Eyes. To compare with their statesment. If anybody can make better renders than Veqvil or author of Dreams of Desire, try making game with them. Make games better with your work and not just complain that it's not perfect or Godly.

Have a good day and once more Great Work Veqvil!

 

[veqvil]

Damn Good Game - wide variety of branching stories and cris-crossing points in this game There is main trunk of this splot which revolves around our hero/ demon. Which is damn interesting. Story so far is lacking in some aspects but characters and the way author have implemented them in this story is flawless. All decisions have impact on the story, even those minor ones.

Graphically is hair width below Dreams of Desire, but even in this aspec I whole heartly can give max points for details. Damn shame there is no animations/gifs or other moving images but it can be done in the future, where real action awaits US.

Damn shame that I am broke af, couse I would throw some pocket money to this author. He have potential to rival for the throne of the best Erotic Games with such games as Dreams of Desire. Couse, c'mon this games graphic is marvelous in itself. There are clear differences between Dreams of Desire and this position. But overall they stand on the same step/ tier of perfection. This little one here is only lacking in Patreons and money to make his work more mervelous than Dreams of Desire.

If I could I would throw even 1/5 of my salary if he could make this game release new updated a month faster. So people, please look it up and give a hand to this developer. He has passion for his story and game, we need more people like him to make our desires be real.

10/10 so far
Graphic 10/10
Plot 10/10 my grade for this plot which is made public so far
Gameplay 9/10.. minor bugs and glitches, but it happens when you release new versions to the public
Characters 10/10


- interesting variety of characters, in first part there were 5 characters, MC, Mom, Sis and suspicious pair having sex. Now we have at our disposal.
Potential characters 1, neighbour, new characters: Ex Gf, her brother, three thugs from which one is decent guy, and potential new pair of characters or the same pair from first scenes of the game. So we have 12 characters so far. Dateable are sis, mom, Ex Gf and interesting girl from cafe and of course neighbour. Totally so far there are 5 potential targets of our affection.

This game is better than Dreams of Desire in this way that our developer is trying to make this story more real and lifelike by adding new characters in places which dev of Dreams of Desiare would let to be empty.

Love and Submissin is in this way better that our character is less restricted in decision making than our hero from Dream of Desire. Nonethless, both stories are interesting to follow and uncover new secrets and sweet turns.

Great GAME!

Holy moly! thank you for your feedback! I'm so happy that you enjoy this game
I'm just all over the place reading your comment XD
I will definitely keep improving this project and keep learning about everything so I can do so!

Some people commented that Graphically this game is lacking, I would like to see works of perfection in their Eyes. To compare with their statesment. If anybody can make better renders than Veqvil or author of Dreams of Desire, try making game with them. Make games better with your work and not just complain that it's not perfect or Godly.

Have a good day and once more Great Work Veqvil!

The graphics have lots of room for improvement, but that's something a dev has to say and rightfully so, stopping to improve something and discovering is the death of any project in my eyes. I'm currently learning more about lighting and trying different methods to really improve the quality of the renders, still, with people like you I feel like someones having my back while I'm learning and trying new stuff out

Thank you

 

[Bagger288]

The option to do "truly bad things" is rare in games though, and I definitely think there's an untapped market for it. Sleep Creeping, forced masturbation, blackmail, and rape-ish stuff don't get nearly the game representation they deserve, imo.

There is definitely a market for that stuff, but I don't think it's a big one. They're very rare in English language games, perhaps in part because of they tend to be illegal (not that that has stopped incest porn). You do see aspects of that stuff in other genres like corruption, but they rarely go all the way to guro or rape - you need to go to Spanish or Japanese porn for that.

Even normal anti-hero games like Dungeon Keeper or GTA typically have you only engage in murder and theft, generally to take over the world. The only game with complete disregard for other values than life and property that I can think of is Tyranny.

 

[fierzer]

I think this is the first game where I'm actively checking for updates/teasers/bonus content everyday. I liked Dreams of Desire and My Cute Cousin as well but this has hit the top of my list

 

[n0b0dy]

There is definitely a market for that stuff, but I don't think it's a big one.

Hmm, that's what I thought too until not that long ago but I have noticed games like Euphoria, Kuroinu and Rance 6 are among the best selling games on Mangagamer while they all have unavoidable rape as their main fetish. When I am on a porn site and 'stumble' on a rape role playing video they often have a lot of views compared to the average video. This is probably partly because these videos are relativity rare and there is not that much competition but I would not be surprised if the market for this kind of content is a lot bigger than people normally assume. Having a rape fetish is such a taboo most folks won't talk about it and because it is not visible that way one can easily come to the false conclusion it is a lot rarer that it really is.

 

[xןʞ]

Hmm, that's what I thought too until not that long ago but I have noticed games like Euphoria, Kuroinu and Rance 6 are among the best selling games on Mangagamer while they all have unavoidable rape as their main fetish. When I am on a porn site and 'stumble' on a rape role playing video they often have a lot of views compared to the average video. This is probably partly because these videos are relativity rare and there is not that much competition but I would not be surprised if the market for this kind of content is a lot bigger than people normally assume. Having a rape fetish is such a taboo most folks won't talk about it and because it is not visible that way one can easily come to the false conclusion it is a lot rarer that it really is.

That goes for a lot of "taboo" fetishes though. Go on any porntube and the incest roleplay is gonna have a shitload more views than most other content.

Go on the more "extreme" porntubes and the chicks getting destroyed by huge dog knots are gonna have more views than other fetishes.

 

[n0b0dy]

That goes for a lot of "taboo" fetishes though. Go on any porntube and the incest roleplay is gonna have a shitload more views than most other content.

Go on the more "extreme" porntubes and the chicks getting destroyed by huge dog knots are gonna have more views than other fetishes.

Yeah and that is exactly my point. There will probably be a lot of people who say the market for incest porn is small too, but it is one of most looked for fetish on this forum and gets a lots of views in other places as well. I believe rape is the same in this regard (although to a lesser extend.) People won't flat out admit they like stuff that is looked down upon by society but the amount of views/download these genres receive reveal these fetishes are not that uncommon after all. Liking midget-porn or obese women are taboos too but those kind of videos don't have amount of clicks incest and rape do because the fetishes they display are far more uncommon.

 

[veqvil]

I think this is the first game where I'm actively checking for updates/teasers/bonus content everyday. I liked Dreams of Desire and My Cute Cousin as well but this has hit the top of my list

Thank you so much for your kind words , well I have plans to step up my game in terms of offering more stuff for my patrons and I'm sure there are some guys who will post this here, while I don't feel like that I have the right to do so myself.

 

[veqvil]

There is definitely a market for that stuff, but I don't think it's a big one. They're very rare in English language games, perhaps in part because of they tend to be illegal (not that that has stopped incest porn). You do see aspects of that stuff in other genres like corruption, but they rarely go all the way to guro or rape - you need to go to Spanish or Japanese porn for that.

Even normal anti-hero games like Dungeon Keeper or GTA typically have you only engage in murder and theft, generally to take over the world. The only game with complete disregard for other values than life and property that I can think of is Tyranny.

Well taboo themes are always a thing based on their lowkey nature and of the course the taboo factor itself, as someone who loves to create stories and games I try to hold back any preferences I have (while this certainly is not totally possible). I'm not creating something only I enjoy, I want to be someone who offers a story and place, the player/reader can discover and be excited about. The ultimate goal is to create a world where one can try and tap into many things (while I certaintly won't create stuff I hate or find disgusting as that simply won't do justice to the genre I'm forcing myself into), and build a relationship to characters in diverse ways which also shows different effect on those characters. Questions like how would she react if I ask character x for threesome with y? Or would she agree on trying this and that? What happens if I blackmail her? (Trust me I'm not going into the easy prey/helpless girl for every character, some are smart and can outplay you, and if that happens then we actually come into a game over situation, so once I come into the blackmail stuff, you have to be careful what decisions you pick).

I also make use of applying this taboo factor to the character themselves, having incest fantasy as Amy about her own brother builds up a desire she can't openly talk about, as the player you have so many ways to approach or make use of it, just think about blackmailing, manipulation, love, sharing etc.

In terms of reality I just try to think about how different personalities react to different things, the only problem here might be the lack of experience or knowledge about the genre or personalities, that's where the game won't be totally reasonable and can clash with others views or thoughts about each thing.

 

[Someguy01]

Don't worry about the reaction stuff, @veqvil, we got perversity here in spades. We're all here for you if you need a sounding board for reactions/situations. Taboo and perversity are the native languages for a lot of us around here, even if a lot of the folks can't bring themselves to admit it. If you enjoy porn games, sorry, you''re a pervert. Be proud. Like I'd said previously, untapped market. Me and my inner pervert are very well acquainted and I'm at peace with it.

 

[veqvil]

Don't worry about the reaction stuff, @veqvil, we got perversity here in spades. We're all here for you if you need a sounding board for reactions/situations. Taboo and perversity are the native languages for a lot of us around here, even if a lot of the folks can't bring themselves to admit it. If you enjoy porn games, sorry, you''re a pervert. Be proud. Like I'd said previously, untapped market. Me and my inner pervert are very well acquainted and I'm at peace with it.

I'm glad to have such a awesome community with peopel like you who give me a source of feedback and even ideas!

 

[wep]

I'm glad to have such a awesome community with peopel like you who give me a source of feedback and even ideas!

This is one of the best traits of this community. However don't forget that it is your game and you can't make everybody happy. So try to have a good idea of the entire game NOW and stay closer as possible at that route.

One of the worse thing in games is the lack of coherence. One of best things in DoD is the internal coherence. You can find hints of the stuffs in last ep. in very early eps.

 

[veqvil]

This is one of the best trait of this community. However don't forget that it is your game and you can't make everybody happy. So try to have a good idea of the entire game NOW and stay closer as possible at that route.

One of the worse thing in games is the lack of coherence. One of best things in DoD is the internal coherence. You can find hints of the stuffs in last ep. in very early eps.

I totally agree wep! Finding stuff that has been hinted on early on is really fun and simply feels amazing
And I also agree on staying true to my vision, I have many updates planned out already and I think they will all deliver a little fun

 

[gestved]

lesbian stuff is always a good bonus

 

[veqvil]

Veqvil, if you keep doing what you are doing, keeping all the girls for MC and don't even add lesbian-stuff... Then you can simply win my heart with your game. So far the game looks perfect (okay, the graphics can be improved but that doesn't interrupt the gaming experience). I really love games that has passion more than sexual activity in it.

Keeping all girls for MC will definitely be in the game, lesbian stuff will be optional.
Actually, everything is optional, you could play the whole game without seeing naked stuff except for the intro scene (I'm thinking to remove that one though since it's too much out of the blue xD)

Seeing the title of my game in your top 3 list really stuns me.
I'm really glad you like this project!

 

[veqvil]

lesbian stuff is always a good bonus

I always thought so myself until I read some more comments on other titles. To me it's pretty simple: If a player likes something he would encourage it, if he doesn't he would try to stop that. Based on your choices your either see what you like or not

 

[Crawdaddy]

I looked around for a play guide, but couldn't find any, does one exist? Just downloaded it and unsure just how much content there is here. Have already played through once without finding a whole lot (I realize it's still early in development, so definitely not complaining, just curious).

 

[gestved]

I always thought so myself until I read some more comments on other titles. To me it's pretty simple: If a player likes something he would encourage it, if he doesn't he would try to stop that. Based on your choices your either see what you like or not

It's a good decision doing that, like the part with mother date where you can clearly say you don't like the content and avoid the whole NTR stuff and avoid most of the drama (only most of it because there is a lot of purists that can't just choose other option and move on).

About lesbians, for me it's quite simple. Like I said before, I'm not someone that rejects girls in a porn game, and the more the merrier, and I can't really find disgusting for a girl to like girls if I like girls, so it's like the perfect marriage. There is nothing more beautiful than two gorgeous girls making out, kissing and groping each other