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zeppelin

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Well, if peope understand that complaining won't do anything, maybe they'll stop. Or realize that the right place to complain is his Patreon. Or not.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I don't think that me complaining will somehow make the dev work faster.

My argument was that the people that constantly come to this thread to defend the dev and make excuses for him are wrong. My opinions or any discussion here won't make the updates come any faster or any slower, but so what?
 

EvilUser

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@Eerie Entity: I must say that you always amaze me of how supporting you are.

@ All of those that criticize times taken for update: I want to note something to those without patience from dev's perspective.
Preparing a new set of scenes (new location) can take days to adjust everything. We don't have ready to go poses you can just drop inside the program (Well we have but those sucks!), you can't just load new environment or figure and just hit the render button. Veqvil renders are high quality class of images, which takes a lot of time for render (assuming he have like 2 x GTX 1080 ti) for example 1 image can take from 3 to 8 hours just to render without post work. Also, yeah we have a life just like anyone of you, we all have family, some of us have day time work some don't, we are not immune to diseases, etc. etc.! If you guys stop whining about "when will be the update" and give this guy at least positive comment here, it will mean something.

Whining wont make him hurry up the update!
 

kinkybastard

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@Eerie Entity: I must say that you always amaze me of how supporting you are.

@All of those that criticize times taken for update: I want to note something to those without patience from dev's perspective.
Preparing a new set of scenes (new location) can take days to adjust everything. We don't have ready to go poses you can just drop inside the program (Well we have but those sucks!), you can't just load new environment or figure and just hit the render button. Veqvil renders are high quality class of images, which takes a lot of time for render (assuming he have like 2 x GTX 1080 ti) for example 1 image can take from 3 to 8 hours just to render without post work. Also, yeah we have a life just like anyone of you, we all have family, some of us have day time work some don't, we are not immune to diseases, etc. etc.! If you guys stop whining about "when will be the update" and give this guy at least positive comment here, it will mean something.

Whining wont make him hurry up the update!

even worse this constant nagging might make devs say: "you know what i'm done with this shit" and abandon their projects entirely... i hope veqvil keeps going at his own pace, instead of delivering monthly updates that are broken and half assed... how many devs have gone that way and what did it do to their games?
i mean let's take a look at this game in the current version: runs perfectly, no bugs i know of (wait there is one... ONE bug! if you try to get the shovel from the garage while the car is parked inside), enticing story and sound mechanics... that is worth the wait for me... as long as the quality is there
 

Eerie Entity

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@Eerie Entity: I must say that you always amaze me of how supporting you are.

@ All of those that criticize times taken for update: I want to note something to those without patience from dev's perspective.
Preparing a new set of scenes (new location) can take days to adjust everything. We don't have ready to go poses you can just drop inside the program (Well we have but those sucks!), you can't just load new environment or figure and just hit the render button. Veqvil renders are high quality class of images, which takes a lot of time for render (assuming he have like 2 x GTX 1080 ti) for example 1 image can take from 3 to 8 hours just to render without post work. Also, yeah we have a life just like anyone of you, we all have family, some of us have day time work some don't, we are not immune to diseases, etc. etc.! If you guys stop whining about "when will be the update" and give this guy at least positive comment here, it will mean something.

Whining wont make him hurry up the update!
Hehe, of course I support, especially those that deserve it, there's tons of devs out there that create very good games, work hard and so forth, and never get the support and recognition they deserve, and when someone technically starts degrading someone's work or work ethics and so on, that's upsetting :)
 

cc31

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True newbie here...just wondering if devs can use remote rendering services for CGs, those things are blazing fast!
 

Walg

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True newbie here...just wondering if devs can use remote rendering services for CGs, those things are blazing fast!
You sure can if you set up the environment and poses correctly which, as @EvilUser said, can take days to set up. Daz isn't smart so you have to set up every single detail and there's no collision detect that works consistently so you're always tinkering just to get the right look. Then you have to get/make the rest of the assets like skin maps, eye lashes, accessories etc assuming that you have your model/custom model done. Then there's the environment....
 

thenono

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so much of this would stop with regular communication from Veqvil. It would allow him to manage expectation levels and stop with all the questions. also I know he likes updating the main page with the status, not been done in a couple of weeks actually, but a fresh post every now and then will at least show his patreons and everyone else that he is indeed active.

I personally wouldnt sign on or resign back on as a patreon when there hasnt been a post since late January and it stated last one before release.
 

goobdoob

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I'm not sure what you're trying to say. I don't think that me complaining will somehow make the dev work faster.

My argument was that the people that constantly come to this thread to defend the dev and make excuses for him are wrong. My opinions or any discussion here won't make the updates come any faster or any slower, but so what?
Then why rile up the fanboys? I don't see the point to your poking them when you know they're just going to keep defending Veq.
 
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kinkybastard

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Then why rile up the fanboys? I don't see the point to your poking them when you know they're just going to keep defending Veq.
and why not? he has delivered some really solid work, and to just assume he has lost interest in the project without knowing any details about his life is simply ignorant, and riles up more then just fanboys/girls/other variations...
i bet some people are simply annoyed with such an attitude, regardless of their opinion of Veq or his work.

cheers and just chill people ;-)
 
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Karabinek

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Im looking for assets which were used to create female characters. Mainly mom and Becky but twins could work too. If anyone could help me find them it would be great. This game needs some love and fan arts :p
 

JayneDoe

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I don't understand how people can make this argument ad infinitum as if it's such a solid counter. Can I only complain about food if I'm a chef? Can I only criticize a movie if I'm a filmmaker? I can only determine that a story is bad if I'm a writer? Give me a break.
Well no, but in these cases you pay for the movie, the food, etc. Do you pay him at patreon or in general? If not, well...
 

goobdoob

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Cause I think that being tribalistic and irrationally defensive about a porn game is pathetic, and the people that act this way should be at least presented with some counter arguments.
But riling them up is not a counter argument. And if you go back in the thread, you'll see it's all been said before. What it looks like to me (my opinion; it may very well be wrong because I don't know what you are thinking) is that you're "poking the bear" to get a rise out of them. If so, please stop. We're an adult Adult community.
 

zeppelin

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But riling them up is not a counter argument. And if you go back in the thread, you'll see it's all been said before. What it looks like to me (my opinion; it may very well be wrong because I don't know what you are thinking) is that you're "poking the bear" to get a rise out of them. If so, please stop. We're an adult Adult community.
Forums aren't meant to be safe spaces, bro. If people are so emotionally weak that they can't handle someone disagreeing on a topic about porn games on the internet, then they probably have bigger problems than me.

Well no, but in these cases you pay for the movie, the food, etc. Do you pay him at patreon or in general? If not, well...
The fuck are you even trying to say? I'm not debating the quality of the product, I'm disagreeing with the people here that constantly make up excuses for why the dev takes half a year for an update.
 
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