- Sep 28, 2017
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Yeah, another fucker in my ignore list.
fuckers = people whose main and only argument is "you don't pay, so you mustn't argue", in the end.
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fuckers = people whose main and only argument is "you don't pay, so you mustn't argue", in the end.
- Jul 17, 2017
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- Apr 21, 2017
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Donate some money to this site first before you start complaining about it's community being spiteful and mean, otherwise "SHUT".
I don't know much English so I will express myself as best I can, I think my opinion represents a large part of the community's feeling at this time, like everyone I started to follow this game because of the feminine designs, I did not expect anything spectacular, just something to make me horny as most of the time we all do in this forum, however I finished the game without being able to get a single hot scene, but incredibly it did not bother me !!! I wanted more of the story because it was genuinely good and with well-thought-out characters, with so many girls, with different routes available, this looked like monstrous potential, and it didn't have one or two sponsors if not close to six hundred, if supposedly it was too much pressure why not hire someone ??? more updates translates into more money, sadly when I find out that it is the second time that you leave the game and that the return date agrees with the beginning of the epidemic it is not difficult to guess what happened here, a pity that I did twice yours Patreon to help with a project in which I genuinely believed, a shame that so much potential goes to waste that easily.
Well as a former patron (ended again 2 months ago) then I feel I have some right to complain, as I have done on his discord and even on the patron page itself. Now as someone who also deals with mental health issues, that i have stated many times before, I understand some of what Veq may be going through. However Veq doesnt help himself as this is the exact same cycle that he went through last time. When you then add in the cynical nature of getting his patreon page reinstated, returning at the beginning of lockdown for most, when incomes are tight for all then at least optically it looks bad.
Making promises that he doesn't keep, apparently getting stuck on the exact same issue as last time, stating months before he has a version just about ready to go but hes not happy with it, to then taking a break and not pausing any payments while he's away. This is all just a carbon copy.... he got a lot of sympathy up until the patreon issue last time, not going to be the same this time round whether he is having the same level of issues as before or not.
- Jan 22, 2018
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It's my wiener who is mad at me because I can't tug him anymore looking at new Carol scenes.
And he doesn't want to shut up...
No need for long defending or blaming posts, this question explains the motives:
Did dev pause patreon pledges? Did he mention about pausing the payments in anyway in his big excuse post for stopping the development?
If answer is no, then this is good old milking and scamming. And if you're a supporter (with money or not), then you lack common sense, even simple logic and you're the cause for huge increasing number of this type of devs.
If answer is yes, then there's hope, there's some humility, there's some integrity...
Did dev pause patreon pledges? Did he mention about pausing the payments in anyway in his big excuse post for stopping the development?
If answer is no, then this is good old milking and scamming. And if you're a supporter (with money or not), then you lack common sense, even simple logic and you're the cause for huge increasing number of this type of devs.
If answer is yes, then there's hope, there's some humility, there's some integrity...
- Jul 30, 2018
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Yes, I believe it was and he was aware that he didn't always have the skills he'd like to have. When you saw comments in game about not having a money system to buy coffee or about the clock not working, he was being sincere about his coding skills.
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Never underestimate the power of loyal patreons, Devs like home will never be held accountable because some will always support them no matter what, it's like a cult. Gumdrop is a prime example.
- Aug 22, 2018
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For those saying the game was too much work for Veq qith all the paths and what have you, just run back to earlier in the thread.
He had PhillyGames helping him and various other devs all chipping in, all for free and willing to help with whatever was needed.
He wasn't exactly alone and had help from some of the top devs here that were also able to get their own games out while helping others. On top of that he had offers from nearly all of his player base to help with little things from render farming to spell checking to translations.
He had all the help anyone could ever have asked for and a lot more help than some other devs get on here yet all he gave back was excuses.
I don't accuse devs of milking, i've never gone to threads of games that were obvious milk farms and I don't like painting devs in a bad light. I'm friends with quite a few devs on here, really good friends with a small number but some devs take the absolute piss and need calling out.
Throughout all of this devs absence and excuses he left payments open now I am an advocate of personal responsibility and everyone being aware of their own finances but you don't drop a game for years leaving payments open unless you are milking.
Reading those earlier posts the dev seemed really nice and genuine but here we are, a few years later and I don't think he's any better than the likes of Gumdrop anymore.
Dirty dev.
He had PhillyGames helping him and various other devs all chipping in, all for free and willing to help with whatever was needed.
He wasn't exactly alone and had help from some of the top devs here that were also able to get their own games out while helping others. On top of that he had offers from nearly all of his player base to help with little things from render farming to spell checking to translations.
He had all the help anyone could ever have asked for and a lot more help than some other devs get on here yet all he gave back was excuses.
I don't accuse devs of milking, i've never gone to threads of games that were obvious milk farms and I don't like painting devs in a bad light. I'm friends with quite a few devs on here, really good friends with a small number but some devs take the absolute piss and need calling out.
Throughout all of this devs absence and excuses he left payments open now I am an advocate of personal responsibility and everyone being aware of their own finances but you don't drop a game for years leaving payments open unless you are milking.
Reading those earlier posts the dev seemed really nice and genuine but here we are, a few years later and I don't think he's any better than the likes of Gumdrop anymore.
Dirty dev.
- May 9, 2018
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Wow, this changes everything. I had no clue he was getting/being offered this kind of assistance.
No matter how much the work is, or how much help is received, it can be insurmountable when you're battling mental illness. When you're depressed even just getting out of bed can be a huge fight. I feel you.
Regardless it's inexcusable to casually turn paid work into charity. It is not a devs rightful decision to make, to essentially coast off the ignorant or naive who don't regularly check their payments.
When your mind is fighting to find worth in it all responsibility is on a low. Still, a little advice: Pause Patreon. Set up a BuyMeACoffee or something, so everyone who feels like giving for the sake of charity can keep doing so. The money received will indeed be less, but with your integrity and people's goodwill intact. You will gain respect for yourself and so will others. The path to a healthy life is paved by good decisions. Start walking, bud.
Regardless it's inexcusable to casually turn paid work into charity. It is not a devs rightful decision to make, to essentially coast off the ignorant or naive who don't regularly check their payments.
When your mind is fighting to find worth in it all responsibility is on a low. Still, a little advice: Pause Patreon. Set up a BuyMeACoffee or something, so everyone who feels like giving for the sake of charity can keep doing so. The money received will indeed be less, but with your integrity and people's goodwill intact. You will gain respect for yourself and so will others. The path to a healthy life is paved by good decisions. Start walking, bud.
Hey guys quick question please. Is this game abandoned for good? Done and dead? Never coming back?
- Sep 12, 2018
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it has its cycles of active/abandoned, yet no one knows for sure if this is the last cycle.
It would be a pity if it is indeed done and dead. This had got some of the best stories I've played so far.
Avaron1974 is correct. I do not believe in one's project can become too big. There's always people willing to help and even for free.
It's a pity this is abandoned again (i think its not first time.) It's seriously or was a great game.
It's a pity this is abandoned again (i think its not first time.) It's seriously or was a great game.
- Sep 28, 2017
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Dude, he's just a fucking liar. Period.
He wrote in July that the udpate was going to be postponed because he had to help his folks packing because they were relocating. Now he writes that he's abandoning the game because he's got a major writer's bloc.
Poor lad: he thinks he's like Takehiko Inoue working on Vagabond, I guess.