VN Ren'Py Abandoned Love and Submission [v0.08] [veqvil]

[Trapezio]

Back when this was apart of this theoretical (whether personal or not) "Golden Age", the game was still in active development, not this hiatus > new release > second hiatus (five years this time) > new release stuff. This game had a lot of potential, and I believe it still does (the developer's mental state notwithstanding) so before you make a mockery of the fact this game isn't completed and possibly never will be, think about when this game was released and the stories this game will inspire in future games.

I'd really like to know why so many people believe in anything an anonymous guy they never met tells about him/her/itself.

As far as I know Veqvil could be a 80 years old granny living in a retirement home in Patagonia or a 14 years old girl living with her mom somewhere in Alaska as well,

BUT ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE: that I was 100% aware of the fact that this "project" wasn't going anywhere since the first time we had a long hiatus in 2018.

 

[LordMerek]

I'd really like to know why so many people believe in anything an anonymous guy they never met tells about him/her/itself.

As far as I know Veqvil could be a 80 years old granny living in a retirement home in Patagonia or a 14 years old girl living with her mom somewhere in Alaska as well,

BUT ONE THING I KNOW FOR SURE: that I was 100% aware of the fact that this "project" wasn't going anywhere since the first time we had a long hiatus in 2018.

I prefer to believe what people say to be the truth unless there is sufficient reason to doubt. Doubting everything and everyone just leads to unnecessary stress I don't really need.

 

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there is sufficient reason to doubt

but there is

 

[Trapezio]

I prefer to believe what people say to be the truth unless there is sufficient reason to doubt. Doubting everything and everyone just leads to unnecessary stress I don't really need.

All right. It's time to tell you the whole truth.

I am a Nigerian Prince, in fact, and I need your assistance.

 

[Trapezio]

So veqvil is lying to get, what, sympathy? Irredeemable also suffered from some personal emotional issues, but recently returned to the development scene. A lot of people have problems. It is not unreasonable to have a little empathy.

So what.

Everybody's got problems. A lot of people have mental issues.

Are blatant and recurring lies and demand for money excused because of depression or mental breakdown?

Man, the point is that TOO MANY Patreon devs have been behaved like him: same old story, same old words, same old excuses, same old behaviour too many times by too many devs.

No one would complain if these guys didn't ask for money.

 

[LordMerek]

So what.

Everybody's got problems. A lot of people have mental issues.

Are blatant and recurring lies and demand for money excused because of depression or mental breakdown?

Man, the point is that TOO MANY Patreon devs have been behaved like him: same old story, same old words, same old excuses, same old behaviour too many times by too many devs.

No one would complain if these guys didn't ask for money.

I suppose you're right, but where specifically is he asking for money? Sure he's got patron enabled, but it's likely that's just pure laziness on his end rather than a desire to screw people over. Nobody is forcing these people to continue supporting him, yet they do. Also, I highly doubt after everything that's happened he's making a killing. It's not lies so much as it is broken promises and broken hope.

All right. It's time to tell you the whole truth.

I am a Nigerian Prince, in fact, and I need your assistance.

You mistake my sincerity for gullibility.

 

[AsherLikeYou]

It is sad that it is abandoned. I'd love to see more of Mira's story

 

[Rintal]

Man, the point is that TOO MANY Patreon devs have been behaved like him: same old story, same old words, same old excuses, same old behaviour too many times by too many devs.

This is the community fault. Rather than being critical to devs and rewarding them only when they deliver content, emotionally unstable kids with sperm toxicosis bring money to developers who release updates every six months (best case scenario) and also cheerfully shout that GOOD GAME IS WORTH TO WAIT! Well good luck with that.

 

[zeus04]

as in the scene with erik a me does not die and I go on, Dr. Sara saves me

happens, going on with the scene: do two sessions with Dr. Sara, then you will have on stage duke at the super market the one who shoots amy, then scene new family barron who talk to you, a story of a guardian etc., over time night you often dream of your father and you see a ring that then this ring is superpowerful, then it all ends in that scene, too bad since I had never gone so far in the game. he should fuck all in the version after I hope.

 

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[bladgrabha]

I'm starting to think there's a problem with expecting fully developed games from flaky teenagers with mental health issues

 

[Lotex]

I doubt that Veq is a teenager anymore. If I had to make a guess I'd probably say mid 20s, maybe early 30s.

 

[sabadongelov]

Another factor is probably that people who actually put some thought into their story writing and such are the ones that stay behind while the people who just want to make a quick buck move on to something else. Contrary to popular belief most games are more work than a few pretty renders. The most important thing is the willpower to actually finish it, everything else is something that can either be learned or bought as in hire an external writer or something like that.

I give you a half right on this one, as it is true that it becomes quite obvious which devs are invested and which aren't. This game is a good example of a dev who isn't invested and probably only is in it for the quick buck (or rather the prolonged and ever giving buck for almost no work at all).

But only half right, as this behaviour most likely started just because of Patreon and how it suddenly became possible to earn a good income from creating indie porn games. In the bad old days when getting people to pay for their porn games was a great hassle, there were no scammers, naturally. Not that I'm complaining, on total the scene has become so much better because of this.

 

[sabadongelov]

Back when this was apart of this theoretical (whether personal or not) "Golden Age", the game was still in active development, not this hiatus > new release > second hiatus (five years this time) > new release stuff. This game had a lot of potential, and I believe it still does (the developer's mental state notwithstanding) so before you make a mockery of the fact this game isn't completed and possibly never will be, think about when this game was released and the stories this game will inspire in future games.

Yeah, sure, there are some things that are good about this game. But there are also some things that are not so good, even sans the long hiatuses. I wont go into detail in the thread, if you're curious about what I find less than stellar, you can check out my review in the review section of the thread.

 

[sabadongelov]

I prefer to believe what people say to be the truth unless there is sufficient reason to doubt. Doubting everything and everyone just leads to unnecessary stress I don't really need.

That's a commendable sentiment and it's nice seing someone on a porn forum who doesn't idealize cynism. That said, I think there is sufficient reason to doubt in this case and I don't think not turning off the cash stream is a mistake. I mean, it's not as if he won't notice money still going to his account each month.

But then again, I don't know. Did he turn off patreon payments last time he had an hiatus? If he did, I might believe him, if not, that's really damning.

 

[Raven Tomoe]

I'm not surprise he abandoned the project again I knew it was going to happen if I remember right he brought it back right at the time covid started and we all been placed in lockdown at home, figure other games might come back from being abandoning to help them make money while stuck at home. So like other's I was surprise he came back but part of me thought in the back of my head he'll abandoned it again sadly I was right wish I was wrong cause like others I enjoy this game.

 

[light03]

Did he turn off patreon payments last time he had an hiatus?

Never.