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Warning. If you dont like my book series, this is where you should scroll. A lot. Dont give me that look. We all have our own way of dealing with the wait for 0.04.

@UncleVT Thank you for your kindness. I really need some ideas to improve it. To be honest
Im sure I speak for everyone both the veterans as well as the new players who discover this game when I say that your walkthough have been helpful and appreciated. But as it is with all good things, I am sure it can be improved. Puting some improvement thoughs in a spoiler.
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Wait that's the perfect introduction to implement sexy robots! I mean more content is better right? XDDD
Always. I guess this is why people dont always are happy when I come with my suggestions:closedeyesmile:

XD If you actually go through all 80 pages I might have finished with LaS 0.99 XD
Challenge accepted.

I'm sorry for all the wait but It was sort of a rough time (I usually avoid private things in my posts) :)
Sad to hear that. I hope its getting better. Stupid life never just being easy. But you know what they say, what dosnt kill you just make you a better creative person.

You will be able to install cameras, change the chat messages from a girl to "Leave me alone generic black dude" into "Fuck me at my house, btw I act like I don't want it" (That was more of an extreme and cheap example but something like this could come up XD)
My kind of extreme. Im sure it will be a fun scenario when fleshed out. And then you can blackmail both of them, two birds in one twisted action.

Well, so far I have always rushed a release, except for 0.02 as it sort of was the real first release. I will try it differently with 0.04. There are two conditions that trigger the release either it's the end of January or I think the game is ready.
Well I hope you will feel that you reach both the conditions.

If one thing is confusing, it's my game, sorry about that ;(
Complexity tends to be look upon as confusing as in the more complexity the harder it is to grasp. And while I would like to remind you that we like this game cause of its complexity. But that said, there is no reason for complexity to be confusing, it just raises the bar for displaying thing well and making the player understand. There is a reason why most popular art products are really simple, cause then no work is required to understand it. But there is also a reason why many people find that simpleness boring. And that reason have lead a good portion of us here. As I said, good things can always be improved upon. And I am sure this will be improved and less confusing.

UGH MUST NOT SAY ANYTHING!
I will take that as a yes then;).

Damn now you spoiled the main plot of LaS, as all turn into porn stars and you fuck them as their training... ruining my classy-elevated-story-heavy game, you! XD
That sounds like a Shakespearean play. Jokes aside, I am sure even if you where to do that twist you would keep the classy (what the fuck does even classy in this situation meanXD?) elevated story with fleshed out and interesting characters. When people make that connection to bb it not so much about the narative as it is of the lack of character, good story and just padding out things with cliches and fanservice, without really having an identity. Just sex becomes boring when you have seen it. But I have faith in you make a well written game, and me beating you over the head until its good giving some writing advise if you run into problems.

I mean things like that are discovered only later and with relationships mostly, right? ;)
Sometimes, but they dont have to be. You need to make her understand what kind of man you are, how you live and what a relationship with you would entail. Its the difference between knowing what you want, having expectations and displaying your dominance as opposed to slowly and carefully corrupting someone with their own desires (I know you where kind of joking but since I dont know what kind of experience you have with bdsm and dominance my answer ended up more on the educational side).

Not in this game! Too ez pah! saved the gif though XD
Thats what I look forward to. Being able to do things other games would think you would need to mind control someone to achieve, but here doing it without magic, building the relationship and taking control over the other person(s) but still going so far (if not further).
 
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You will be able to install cameras, change the chat messages from a girl to "Leave me alone generic black dude" into "Fuck me at my house, btw I act like I don't want it" (That was more of an extreme and cheap example but something like this could come up XD)
Hah, that sounds just plain awesome, cheap extreme examples are the best examples :closedeyesmile:

Complexity tends to be look upon as confusing as in the more complexity the harder it is to grasp. And while I would like to remind you that we like this game cause of its complexity. But that said, there is no reason for complexity to be confusing, it just raises the bar for displaying thing well and making the player understand. There is a reason why most popular art products are really simple, cause then no work is required to understand it. But there is also a reason why many people find that simpleness boring. And that reason have lead a good portion of us here. As I said, good things can always be improved upon. And I am sure this will be improved and less confusing.
You are right, people and reality are incredible complex, so complex the human mind can not even begin to grasp it. The complexity is what makes people so great and life so rewarding, so that's why I love it when artists try to show life in many of it's complexities instead of dumbing it down in fear others people will not "get it". But yeah when you decide to make your art more complex there will always be people who won't get it and therefore strongly hate it. The curse of a genius artist is everybody will think he is a talent-less hack. So @veqvil , please don't shy away from complexity and when people come here and say your game has too many "useless boring parts" you know you are doing something right XD
 

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Thank you for your ideas ~
Yeah, the variables always fucked up my brain and it's hard to find a user friendly way to show it.(Make me like a goddamn idiot :pokerFace:)
In this point, I am sure Veqvil's walkthrough will be more clear than mine because he is the one who writes the whole story.
I will see what I can do in v0.04.(Let's hope the script won't be too complex to read:p)
 

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Thank you for your ideas ~
Yeah, the variables always fucked up my brain and it's hard to find a user friendly way to show it.(Make me like a goddamn idiot :pokerFace:)
In this point, I am sure Veqvil's walkthrough will be more clear than mine because he is the one who writes the whole story.
I will see what I can do in v0.04.(Let's hope the script won't be too complex to read:p)
Yeah, I see how that is hard. Not being a mind reader makes it hard to see what stats will be important and what kind veq wants the game built upon. Looking forward to the 0.04 version though.
 

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You will be able to install cameras, change the chat messages from a girl to "Leave me alone generic black dude" into "Fuck me at my house, btw I act like I don't want it" (That was more of an extreme and cheap example but something like this could come up XD)
:test2::test2: i'm too emotional for this shit, yes, i can avoid this kind of stuff, but for example: game the tyrant: yes, i can turn off ntr, yes, i can avoid all stuff, then i see image from game where black dude destroy mother's ass, i feel like no, fuck this game) but anyway @veqvil , don't listen to people like me, keep up the good work! (sry for bad eng)
 

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As you might of noticed people rightfully voted for swimsuit 2 knowing what would happen to them if they made the wrong choice!
 
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I get your point XD if you are talking about the rewards (swimsuit poll) they don't take away as much time as they seem, I do breaks and once my computer finishes up a set of renders I do some "rewards" renders I'm not like designing all those pieces they are mostly products created by awesome 3d modellers.
In case you're talking about the outfits in-game... well I haven't thought about that oO
I just wanted to point out that this is one of those few games where the female characters own more than 2 (detailed) outfits
 
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You will be able to install cameras, change the chat messages from a girl to "Leave me alone generic black dude" into "Fuck me at my house, btw I act like I don't want it" (That was more of an extreme and cheap example but something like this could come up XD)
:3 I like that. I wish we could order a Pizza from Amy/Becky/Mom/whoever's phone so we could eat while watching her \m/
 
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You will be able to install cameras, change the chat messages from a girl to "Leave me alone generic black dude" into "Fuck me at my house, btw I act like I don't want it" (That was more of an extreme and cheap example but something like this could come up XD)
so, black man can rape girls ( if i want, no ntr i know)? including mother? :heartcoveredeyes:
P.S. i know it's "extreme and cheap example" but it's sound so good :firstimekiss:
:3 I like that. I wish we could order a Pizza from Amy/Becky/Mom/whoever's phone so we could eat while watching her \m/
i like u man :happyblush
 
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Complexity tends to be look upon as confusing as in the more complexity the harder it is to grasp. And while I would like to remind you that we like this game cause of its complexity. But that said, there is no reason for complexity to be confusing, it just raises the bar for displaying thing well and making the player understand. There is a reason why most popular art products are really simple, cause then no work is required to understand it. But there is also a reason why many people find that simpleness boring. And that reason have lead a good portion of us here. As I said, good things can always be improved upon. And I am sure this will be improved and less confusing.
I agree complexity doesn't have to be confusing since it would be actually bad executed or portrayed complexity, which is, unfortunately, the case since I jump around from number coding, and values as conditions. This is all part of learning "programming" and I managed to get some more elegant, equally complex but less confusing improvements so far. Still, my weakest point is the programming and of course the nonexistent sound xD.

Sometimes, but they dont have to be. You need to make her understand what kind of man you are, how you live and what a relationship with you would entail. Its the difference between knowing what you want, having expectations and displaying your dominance as opposed to slowly and carefully corrupting someone with their own desires (I know you where kind of joking but since I dont know what kind of experience you have with bdsm and dominance my answer ended up more on the educational side).
Well, this fetish does require interactions with another person and therefore has many sources where such desires come to one's mind IMO. Looking from the female point of view it could be based on one's fantasy, experience or introduction through other people. And if one person doesn't have such fantasy, we also have the driver named "love", something more powerful than those supernatural hypnotic abilities in the hand of a manipulative genius xD

You are right, people and reality are incredible complex, so complex the human mind can not even begin to grasp it. The complexity is what makes people so great and life so rewarding, so that's why I love it when artists try to show life in many of it's complexities instead of dumbing it down in fear others people will not "get it". But yeah when you decide to make your art more complex there will always be people who won't get it and therefore strongly hate it. The curse of a genius artist is everybody will think he is a talent-less hack. So @veqvil , please don't shy away from complexity and when people come here and say your game has too many "useless boring parts" you know you are doing something right XD
Well for the long run though I need to maintain a working savegame system, I mean I don't want to force all the players to replay beating up Duke into pieces. (JK maybe?)

@ShadowManNor
Thank you for your ideas ~
Yeah, the variables always fucked up my brain and it's hard to find a user friendly way to show it.(Make me like a goddamn idiot :pokerFace:)
In this point, I am sure Veqvil's walkthrough will be more clear than mine because he is the one who writes the whole story.
I will see what I can do in v0.04.(Let's hope the script won't be too complex to read:p)
I'm trying to step down from coding in numbers and being more human-readable xD. Again I'm grateful for your awesome work!
 
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:test2::test2: i'm too emotional for this shit, yes, i can avoid this kind of stuff, but for example: game the tyrant: yes, i can turn off ntr, yes, i can avoid all stuff, then i see image from game where black dude destroy mother's ass, i feel like no, fuck this game) but anyway @veqvil , don't listen to people like me, keep up the good work! (sry for bad eng)
Now, this is something I totally understand, as a purist, this can actually be offending and a problem without a real compromise. All we can do is to hope that the members here be a little more cautious and don't post scenes like this here. There is still a long way to go before stuff like this comes into play, maybe I will come up with a solution by then (even though it's unlikely). All I can, for now, is safely exclude content you don't want to see in the game, outside of the game it's not in my control and relies strongly on the community.

As you might of noticed people rightfully voted for swimsuit 2 knowing what would happen to them if they made the wrong choice!
You broke... the system... *sigh*

I just wanted to point out that this is one of those few games where the female characters own more than 2 (detailed) outfits
Well, I want it to be a little more immersive and seeing the same character always with the same outfit, is a bad thing for me. It's not like a symbolic battle gear or something, so why have the same stuff everyday XD

Now, this was only an example, but I totally get that there are people who don't like the sole idea. Ugh, what am I supposed to do? T.T
I mean even if it's impossible to see it in-game (since you wouldn't pick those choices) I understand that not everyone is happy with that.

:3 I like that. I wish we could order a Pizza from Amy/Becky/Mom/whoever's phone so we could eat while watching her \m/
You bring it to the next level XD

so, black man can rape girls ( if i want, no ntr i know)? including mother? :heartcoveredeyes:
P.S. i know it's "extreme and cheap example" but it's sound so good :firstimekiss:

i like u man :happyblush
Not sure about rape as the genre, not my thing tbh, but I made an example of one smh...

Don't send any black dudes to my house plz:(
Ha! Prepare your ... ;)
Rip @Ignazzio ;(
 
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@veqvil just make the content that you want to make and hope for the best. You're never going to appease everyone and if you keep adding something that you have no interest in it shows when people play the game. You have an idea where you want to take the game and you should stick with it. I'm sure plenty of us will play the game regardless. Now back to work sir.
 

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As you might of noticed people rightfully voted for swimsuit 2 knowing what would happen to them if they made the wrong choice!
Their family have been released as per agreement. Now we can all live in peace.

Well, this fetish does require interactions with another person and therefore has many sources where such desires come to one's mind IMO. Looking from the female point of view it could be based on one's fantasy, experience or introduction through other people. And if one person doesn't have such fantasy, we also have the driver named "love", something more powerful than those supernatural hypnotic abilities in the hand of a manipulative genius XD
Its the interactions that will be exciting, whether it is direct or hidden, its many flavors it can be done in. It can be specifically sexual, just seductively or just based upon normal tings. Done to build a relationship or to break it down and take control of the person. There are more inspiration to find for power play than what is healthy.

Now, this is something I totally understand, as a purist, this can actually be offending and a problem without a real compromise. All we can do is to hope that the members here be a little more cautious and don't post scenes like this here. There is still a long way to go before stuff like this comes into play, maybe I will come up with a solution by then (even though it's unlikely). All I can, for now, is safely exclude content you don't want to see in the game, outside of the game it's not in my control and relies strongly on the community.
We will just have to start using actual spoiler tags. We have been spoiled with 0.3 out for so long that everybody knows everything and there not really being anything to spoil. But as we venture down the different paths we will have to keep the secrets hidden. That should help dodge the content you dont want to see as well.

Now, this was only an example, but I totally get that there are people who don't like the sole idea. Ugh, what am I supposed to do? T.T
I mean even if it's impossible to see it in-game (since you wouldn't pick those choices) I understand that not everyone is happy with that.
Just do your thing. Nobody will like all the content. We are all different people with different taste. Just keep things optional and dont force the player into situations they dont see coming without choises to move where we want to. If you let the player have control over the character and feel like they have freedom them 99% will be happy. People are not really afraid for the content, but afraid for being forced into situation they didnt want to be in. Most games tend to be linear, so content existing tend to mean you will run into it, and thats what they dont want to do. Sure there will always be some crusaders that will have opinion on what should be able to be in a game no matter if they will see it or even play the game, but if we would listen to all of them they would just remove the entire game. Just see how patron started acting.

Speaking of, congrats on reaching a hundred. First of many milestones.
 
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