VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

a bad person that would burn everything in its path even if its someone close to her. She is malevolent.

 

[Maviarab]

K high is roughly 30 mins - 1h (maybe more, depends on how much you take), it is not disclosed how much alcohol she got in her, maybe enough to be tipsy/drunk but coherent.

Sorry DF, but we're going to argue now

So an hour...she was coherant? Remember the practical joke? She had to have taken that the night before....when the MC was not there because he got fed up of her bullshit. hours...I've said before...12 + hours later...she was still completely disassociated in the morning??? (which makes one wonder, after night of being railed by 100 guys (Bonnie blue...pfffft...dumb slut has nothing on the succubus)...how the hell did she ever manage to turn up for class if that is the effect?

Which is it? Once again, ma math ain't mathing here hehehe...and where did that K come from I wonder, given she says she has no dealer in the city, apparently got some off the dark web for Bastion (which proves she thought about it and got it before she left for that trip imo btw)....

Where it come from..how much? She took a fucking shit load for Bastion....pretty sure she didn't take the same kind of amount that night at home...yet she was not 'coherant' literally hours later after being asleep? I've mentioned this before and you placated me, but not this time. Is she coherant a few hours later (after a truck load of K) ...or is she not (after finding a small amount in a sweatshirt)?

One of those statements from her...or more than one, is a lie.

Some good points made here , but I still find it strange/annoying that once the MC finds out about the usage he isn't like see the next time someone offers you k or if you find an old stash ring me you fucking dickhead

He does...in Act 2, shortly before the Pimp/Kitchen incident. She promises him she well tell him., She then chooses not to bother telling him until he gets home....

 

[AL.d]

Sorry DF, but we're going to argue now

So an hour...she was coherant? Remember the practical joke? She had to have taken that the night before....when the MC was not there because he got fed up of her bullshit. hours...I've said before...12 + hours later...she was still completely disassociated in the morning???

Which is it? Once again, ma math ain't mathing here hehehe...and where did that K come from I wonder, given she says she has no dealer in the city, apparently got some off the dark web in the place her and V went to....

Where it come from..hoiw much? She took a fucking shit load for Bastion....pretty sure she didn;t take the same kind of amount that night at home...yet she was not 'coherant' literally hours later after ewbing asleep? I've mentiopned this before and you placated me, but not this time. Is she coherant a few hours later (after a truck load of K) ...or is she not?

One of those statements from her...or more than one, is a lie.


He does...in Act 2, shortly before the Pimp/Kitchen incident. She promises him she well tell him., She then chooses not to bother telling him until he gets home....

He is right though. In fact I'd say an hour is too much of a stretch for K. What's most likely is that dev is a bit clueless about the drug and has fucked up effects and times. I mean the way it's portrayed as some like magic drug that changes entire personalities is already indication enough.

 

[Fitharia]

Sorry DF, but we're going to argue now

So an hour...she was coherant? Remember the practical joke? She had to have taken that the night before....when the MC was not there because he got fed up of her bullshit. hours...I've said before...12 + hours later...she was still completely disassociated in the morning???

Which is it? Once again, ma math ain't mathing here hehehe...and where did that K come from I wonder, given she says she has no dealer in the city, apparently got some off the dark web for Bastion (which proves she thought about it and got it before she left for that trip imo btw)....

Where it come from..how much? She took a fucking shit load for Bastion....pretty sure she didn't take the same kind of amount that night at home...yet she was not 'coherant' literally hours later after being asleep? I've mentioned this before and you placated me, but not this time. Is she coherant a few hours later (after a truck load of K) ...or is she not?

One of those statements from her...or more than one, is a lie.

DF is right about the duration of real Ketamine, so if she would been high 12 hours straight on Ketamine means she had to retake it least every 30 a 60 min. But again this is a porn story, again logic with reality doesn't fit.

 

[anongamer1983]

DF is right about the duration of real Ketamine, so if she would been high 12 hours straight on Ketamine means she had to retake it least every 30 a 60 min. But again this is a porn story, again logic with reality doesn't fit.

There's a reason it's called "Special K"

I'm not being super serious, but we don't know when Lacey took the Ketamine for the Evan and Jared buts (as far as I know. Can't check at the moment)

 

[Fitharia]

There's a reason it's called "Special K"

Can't argue there, Special K means it Ketamine that doesn excist, inventive story related K.

 

[Maviarab]

He is right though. In fact I'd say an hour is too much of a stretch for K. What's most likely is that dev is a bit clueless about the drug and has fucked up effects and times. I mean the way it's portrayed as some like magic drug that changes entire personalities is already indication enough.

That's perfectly fine, happy to accept that, I have no knowledge of it.

However, if that is right....then the 'prank morning' had fuck all to do with K....do you see what I'm saying? Either that...or my continually calling out the proff is justified. The whole story is just a clusterfuck of nonsense and contradictions of his writing and nothing makes any sense.

 

[Ragnar]

DF is right about the duration of real Ketamine, so if she would been high 12 hours straight on Ketamine means she had to retake it least every 30 a 60 min. But again this is a porn story, again logic with reality doesn't fit.

True, this is a made up story but stories should have some believability. I'm not asking the dev to be a junkie expert but you have google if you don't know anything about the effects of ketamine.

 

[48914891]

No, just no, sorry.

First of all how can you reconcile the concept that you can argue about her being a bad person or not and then come out with "She wanted Lacey for herself - as a toy".

All her action speak about cruelty.

Where is the emotional immaturity in derailing another person life so that a friend of yours could MAYBE get with you and be happy if his marriage ends?
This is plain manipulation and cruelty.

Where is the emotional immaturity when you bring drugs to a drug addict?
This is plain evil and inability to understand consequences. (she is safe, there aren't any in L&J)

Where is the emotional immaturity in looking at a friend almost killing herself with drugs and not do a fucking thing besides snapping pictures of her crying while her ass is being rammed?
This is pure neglect, selfishness and unadultered evil.

Where is the emotional immaturity when she laughs and cheers when her best friend has just suffered from SA?
This is pure evil, especially coming from someone with her past.

Lets stop here, I can go on for hours.

Mav says something quite important here:



This is a failed character, and I will say what I said before, if you see Mia as anything more than an abuser, please seek help, I say it from the heart and not to offend.
Seek help to learn abusive behaviour so you can recognize it and help yourself or someone you care about.

No offense taken, but M is damaged goods as well, working through her own trauma. Two imperfect people, both lying and telling the truth. Trying to be better, but not really knowing how, and it shows. Chapter 3 should be fun.

 

[AL.d]

That's perfectly fine, happy to accept that, I have no knowledge of it.

However, if that is right....then the 'prank morning' had fuck all to do with K....do you see what I'm saying? Either that...or my continually calling out the proff is justified. The whole story is just a clusterfuck of nonsense and nothing makes any sense.

Yeah I get it why you pointed it out. But how K is handled in general makes me think it's just bad writing, not intentional.

It's often used as get out of jail free card, but its effects in the game are very exaggerated. I mean just the fact the cartoon villain thinks it will magically turn the girls into pornsluts for his empire says it all.

 

[DeviantFun]

Sorry DF, but we're going to argue now

So an hour...she was coherant? Remember the practical joke? She had to have taken that the night before....when the MC was not there because he got fed up of her bullshit. hours...I've said before...12 + hours later...she was still completely disassociated in the morning??? (which makes one wonder, after night of being railed by 100 guys (Bonnie blue...pfffft...dumb slut has nothing on the succubus)...how the hell did she ever manage to turn up for class if that is the effect?

Which is it? Once again, ma math ain't mathing here hehehe...and where did that K come from I wonder, given she says she has no dealer in the city, apparently got some off the dark web for Bastion (which proves she thought about it and got it before she left for that trip imo btw)....

Where it come from..how much? She took a fucking shit load for Bastion....pretty sure she didn't take the same kind of amount that night at home...yet she was not 'coherant' literally hours later after being asleep? I've mentioned this before and you placated me, but not this time. Is she coherant a few hours later (after a truck load of K) ...or is she not (after finding a small amount in a sweatshirt)?

One of those statements from her...or more than one, is a lie.


He does...in Act 2, shortly before the Pimp/Kitchen incident. She promises him she well tell him., She then chooses not to bother telling him until he gets home....

Ketamine is weird tho, I can tell that after a "good night" of use you can feel "weird" even the day after.
From what I read just now on the net, the aftereffects can stay with you for more than 24 hours.

"While the primary psychoactive effects subside within an hour, residual psychological effects such as cognitive and perceptual changes can persist for hours to days."

So this would fit the story, lets not think too much about it, I don't think we have an expert that snorted enough K to know how Lacey feels.

He is right though. In fact I'd say an hour is too much of a stretch for K. What's most likely is that dev is a bit clueless about the drug and has fucked up effects and times. I mean the way it's portrayed as some like magic drug that changes entire personalities is already indication enough.

DF is right about the duration of real Ketamine, so if she would been high 12 hours straight on Ketamine means she had to retake it least every 30 a 60 min. But again this is a porn story, again logic with reality doesn't fit.

Thank you for confirming, I don't know if the dev has no experience (good for him) ,has experience with therapeutic use, maybe IV stuff is like way stronger or simply has experience with massive quantities which will probably have some stronger aftereffects I am clueless about.

Even then, let's just accept the depiction of K as it is, lets call it Lacey's dust and be done with it

 

[Sayora]

After meeting the MC, she gives the Lessons about Lacey in the cruelest way posible, even if the MC ask about it, she had to either told him no, or at least deliver the lessons in a more gentle way. The MC did it in a gentle way to Bella, so its posible. Instead she unleashes a cruel version and let it eat at his mind for weeks even months forbidding him to talk it with the wife until finished or her starts the conversation herself. That is plain torture.

This can be called a bad deed only if you don't know the backstory. Sometimes it's better to rip off a bandage than to slowly peel it off. In this case, I completely agree with Mia, the sooner MC found out the truth, the sooner he would get rid of the creature he trustingly took as his wife. (Unfortunately, it didn't work out as planned)

I am absolutely sure of one thing, that this story would end well, Lacey should leave the stage by any means otherwise we will get a cheap Indian rom-com with a happy ending, songs and dances.

 

[DeviantFun]

This can be called a bad deed only if you don't know the backstory. Sometimes it's better to rip off a bandage than to slowly peel it off. In this case, I completely agree with Mia, the sooner MC found out the truth, the sooner he would get rid of the creature he trustingly took as his wife. (Unfortunately, it didn't work out as planned)

I am absolutely sure of one thing, that this story would end well, Lacey should leave the stage by any means otherwise we will get a cheap Indian rom-com with a happy ending, songs and dances.

So you would backstab your suicidal and recently sobered up best friend that JUST found a small piece of peace in her life for your own "sense of justice".

You know, you could have spend time talking, talked to both of them, try to mediate and overall not being a backstabbing abusive piece of shit, but sure, lets talk about "band aids".

Try to remember that her plan was to just break them off because she hated him and maybe also try to remember that the did what she did in the most cruel way possible towards a person she "loves". TWICE.

Fuck me, this is cartoon villain stuff and we got people defending it.

 

[DeviantFun]

No offense taken, but M is damaged goods as well, working through her own trauma. Two imperfect people, both lying and telling the truth. Trying to be better, but not really knowing how, and it shows. Chapter 3 should be fun.

Her trauma has nothing to do with her behaviour aside from college times where she used Lacey to do what she couldn't do, when it wasn't enough she added more, over and over.
Covering it up as helping her heal.
Gangbangs are usually a great way to overcome childhood abuse.

Cheering for SA is not trauma behaviour, especially her trauma.

Read MC messages with Kelly, then line it up with how she didn't care to understand Lacey.

Lets not find excuses for monsters.
Even if we accept that any of this is created by her trauma, which is not, it cannot be a justification.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

This can be called a bad deed only if you don't know the backstory. Sometimes it's better to rip off a bandage than to slowly peel it off. In this case, I completely agree with Mia, the sooner MC found out the truth, the sooner he would get rid of the creature he trustingly took as his wife. (Unfortunately, it didn't work out as planned)

I am absolutely sure of one thing, that this story would end well, Lacey should leave the stage by any means otherwise we will get a cheap Indian rom-com with a happy ending, songs and dances.

If she wanted to rip the bandage, she could have said. Look MC she fucked a lot of dudes in college, here are a couple of photos.

Instead she waves a tale specifically to paint Lacey in the worst way, and lets him feast on these hurtfull thoughs for months. (the sooner MC found out the truth, my ass) Thats neither a slow reveal nor ripping the bandage. Its torture for the MC. And we know the backstory. What happened to her, as much as she hates males, she is also hurting her own friend. And lets not forget, she just had a change of heart about how the MC was an okay guy that she liked. You know, she even mentions "shortest friendship" and all that.

You know, you could have spend time talking, talked to both of them, try to mediate and overall not being a backstabbing abusive piece of shit, but sure, lets talk about "band aids".

Agreed she could have sit down with both and forced Lacey to come clean.

I am absolutely sure of one thing, that this story would end well, Lacey should leave the stage by any means otherwise we will get a cheap Indian rom-com with a happy ending, songs and dances.

I agree that the ending will have a good ending undertone. But i dont see how Lacey going missing could be considered a good ending for the MC (For the MC, not for the players.) Without her there is no good ending.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Sorry DF, but we're going to argue now

So an hour...she was coherant? Remember the practical joke? She had to have taken that the night before....when the MC was not there because he got fed up of her bullshit. hours...I've said before...12 + hours later...she was still completely disassociated in the morning??? (which makes one wonder, after night of being railed by 100 guys (Bonnie blue...pfffft...dumb slut has nothing on the succubus)...how the hell did she ever manage to turn up for class if that is the effect?

Which is it? Once again, ma math ain't mathing here hehehe...and where did that K come from I wonder, given she says she has no dealer in the city, apparently got some off the dark web for Bastion (which proves she thought about it and got it before she left for that trip imo btw)....

Where it come from..how much? She took a fucking shit load for Bastion....pretty sure she didn't take the same kind of amount that night at home...yet she was not 'coherant' literally hours later after being asleep? I've mentioned this before and you placated me, but not this time. Is she coherant a few hours later (after a truck load of K) ...or is she not (after finding a small amount in a sweatshirt)?

One of those statements from her...or more than one, is a lie.


He does...in Act 2, shortly before the Pimp/Kitchen incident. She promises him she well tell him., She then chooses not to bother telling him until he gets home....

I said something similiar and had two theories:
She either took it at night, and the next morning are mood swings and withdrawal symptoms and/or something to do with this “other side” (i know that is starting to sound like a cop out for anything we can’t explain so far)
Or she took it in the morning, after the raging deepthroat session, while MC was getting ready for work, then got in the shower. The only thing i don’t know is why she would take it after being happy that the MC was back, except for the line “she is an addict”

 

[AL.d]

I said something similiar and had two theories:
She either took it at night, and the next morning are mood swings and withdrawal symptoms and/or something to do with this “other side” (i know that is starting to sound like a cop out for anything we can’t explain so far)
Or she took it in the morning, after the raging deepthroat session, while MC was getting ready for work, then got in the shower. The only thing i don’t know is why she would take it after being happy that the MC was back, except for the line “she is an addict”

This got me looking because my experience is very limited from many years ago. And found something I didn't know.

Apparently long term use in large quantities can lead to permanent psychosis in people with pre-disposition. And those psychotic episodes reduce natural dopamine levels. It is well know that if for whatever reason a person has reduced dopamine levels, they would start engaging in very risky and impulsive behavior. Compulsive sexual behavior is among those.

Assuming dev has dug that deep, this could be the other side. And it could possibly include everything from her raving slut mode to her wanting to go have fun with boys that morning, not giving a shit about her husband. Kinda doubt he has dug that deep though.

 

[DeviantFun]

I said something similiar and had two theories:
She either took it at night, and the next morning are mood swings and withdrawal symptoms and/or something to do with this “other side” (i know that is starting to sound like a cop out for anything we can’t explain so far)
Or she took it in the morning, after the raging deepthroat session, while MC was getting ready for work, then got in the shower. The only thing i don’t know is why she would take it after being happy that the MC was back, except for the line “she is an addict”

I don't want to stir the pot here but you made me think.

When MC comes back she gives him this insane blowjob, right?

I always attributed it to her emotional distress + waponized sex/ wanting him.

But now we know she was blitzed....so does K make her a slut?

this is tongue in cheek btw

This got me looking because my experience is very limited from many years ago. And found something I didn't know.

Apparently long term use in large quantities can lead to permanent psychosis in people with pre-disposition. And those psychotic episodes reduce natural dopamine levels. It is well know that if for whatever reason a person has reduced dopamine levels, they would start engaging in very risky and impulsive behavior. Compulsive sexual behavior is among those.

Assuming dev has dug that deep, this could be the other side. And it could possibly include everything from her raving slut mode to her wanting to go have fun with boys that morning, not giving a shit about her husband. Kinda doubt he has dug that deep though.

You I think he did, he might not be able to portray the effects perfectly due to inexperience (also because it is hard), but I searched for all the stuff Lacey assigns to K and the effects are there.

I used my own experience as a guideline, but since I never took those amounts constantly my idea is off as well.

 

[Fitharia]

I don't want to stir the pot here but you made me think.

When MC comes back she gives him this insane blowjob, right?

I always attributed it to her emotional distress + waponized sex/ wanting him.

But now we know she was blitzed....so does K make her a slut?

this is tongue in cheek btw

I don't think K is directly the reason if someone becomes a slut or not. I can agree with the effects of K, but still the slut part is somewhat to do with her abuse and mental state. Like i said before often raped victims either become closed up and freak out when someone touch them, or they become just want the rapist did to them and become sex addicted sluts.

That why victims from sexual abuse and rape need therapy, to find somewhat a middle ground to become normal human.

 

[DeviantFun]

I don't think K is directly the reason if someone becomes a slut or not. I can agree with the effects of K, but still the slut part is somewhat to do with her abuse and mental state. Like i said before often raped victims either become closed up and freak out when someone touch them, or they become just want the rapist did to them and become sex addicted sluts.

Yes, it was a joke about how FV thinks the ladies will all become sluts under the effects of K.