VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[DeviantFun]

Well she was hanging out with Jared at clubs and such, trying to seduce him to give her the job, but mostly she done was dancing with him and near end talking with the strippers, she didn't do anything sexual really. But again bad decision making on how to get a better job.

She wasn't at work for sure as the mc surprised her one night with bringing pizza, but only Veronica was there and there was no work late night meetings like she lied.

2 things:

Most of if not all of the parties were at Jared's "Mcmansion".

Dancing with him was not mentioned anywhere.

Seducing him....well it is not mentioned directly but we can definitely say that she was at least playing along.
Looking at what she does it is hard to argue otherwise.

 

[Fitharia]

2 things:

Most of if not all of the parties were at Jared's "Mcmansion".

Dancing with him was not mentioned anywhere.

Seducing him....well it is not mentioned directly but we can definitely say that she was at least playing along.
Looking at what she does it is hard to argue otherwise.

That what I always found funny, according Bella Jared wasn't rich, he was about to marry into the rich, so the Mansion mentioned probably was hers, but how could he held week long parties there without her knowledge? There still alot parts in those 3 weeks that hang together with just a few threads.

The only thing we can be 100% sure is that those three weeks she wasn't at work, was playing along with Jared, which is a form of seducing, but ment to get the job. But whatever happened is still partly blank, guess she didn't do anything but dance and talk, but we only know when it get uncovered.

 

[winterwolf200]

That what I always found funny, according Bella Jared wasn't rich, he was about to marry into the rich, so the Mansion mentioned probably was hers, but how could he held week long parties there without her knowledge? There still alot parts in those 3 weeks that hang together with just a few threads.

The only thing we can be 100% sure is that those three weeks she wasn't at work, was playing along with Jared, which is a form of seducing, but ment to get the job. But whatever happened is still partly blank, guess she didn't do anything but dance and talk, but we only know when it get uncovered.

Don't go down this Bella route. I did and got my ass handed to me by the local experts.

 

[AL.d]

That what I always found funny, according Bella Jared wasn't rich, he was about to marry into the rich, so the Mansion mentioned probably was hers, but how could he held week long parties there without her knowledge? There still alot parts in those 3 weeks that hang together with just a few threads.

The only thing we can be 100% sure is that those three weeks she wasn't at work, was playing along with Jared, which is a form of seducing, but ment to get the job. But whatever happened is still partly blank, guess she didn't do anything but dance and talk, but we only know when it get uncovered.

I'm pretty sure at some point a club was mentioned, so it wasn't always the mansion. And I wouldn't expect this dev to account for minor details like where Bella was during those parties. There are far more glaring inconsistencies in the game (like the whole Barty/deepfake or brain damage) than something so minor. Maybe she was out for a work trip...

As for what exactly happened, that's very intentionally left open for interpretation. From the few facts known about it, each player is meant to make their own conclusion.

 

[Fitharia]

I'm pretty sure at some point a club was mentioned, so it wasn't always the mansion. And I wouldn't expect this dev to account for minor details like where Bella was during those parties. There are far more glaring inconsistencies in the game (like the whole Barty/deepfake or brain damage) than something so minor. Maybe she was out for a work trip...

As for what exactly happened, that's very intentionally left open for interpretation. From the few facts known about it, each player is meant to make their own conclusion.

The Barty deepfake is clarrified, it was another girl as the breast were larger and she was wearing a wig over her blond hairs. The only thing we sure on was there was conversation with Barty and Lacey and he said mean things to her and she responded and those voices were used for the deepfake vid, probably some AI added too for some of the missing parts.

I know Lacey isn't loved by many players, but I still like to give the benefit of the doubt, maybe because i been among damaged people and I know it not easy for them to adjust after all that happened too them and done by them. I only don't like people who keep messing with such people, they already damaged enough, Like Mia isn't yet in my respect shelf and surely not all those pervy guys like Jared, Evan, Barty and such. Isaac seem somewhat a nice guy, he just wants to be loved too.

 

[Maviarab]

Seducing him....well it is not mentioned directly but we can definitely say that she was at least playing along.
Looking at what she does it is hard to argue otherwise.

Especially given in the 'first' supply room scene....he laments her stopping playing tennis, even says their 'one on one sessions' (ahhhh more lies Lacey....) were very productive and that she needs to 'accomodate' spending time with him so they can build a 'closer relationship'...to which he agrees (thus the beginnings of the party plans from Jared). She is more than hapopy to 'play along'...or just do what she has to (her words previously).

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As for what exactly happened, that's very intentionally left open for interpretation.

 

[anongamer1983]

About the mansion, here's what we have from Mia, who isn't very reliable, but it's the best we have

M "By the way, I know exactly what happened during those 120 hours."
M "I'll be happy to tell you."
M "They had parties at Jared's giant McMansion."
M "He would bring in drugs and strippers."
M "Your wife was bored out of her skull almost the entire time."
M "Do you know how she passed the time?"
M "Drinking and having heart to heart conversations with the strippers."
M "The only time she participated was on nights they went to the club."
M "She would dance. By herself."
M "Some of the guys would whistle or yell at her."
M "Why? Because she's fucking hot."
M "She paid NO attention to them."
M "Everything she did was to survive the mind numbing boredom she felt."

So assuming that Mia is being honest, we still don't know how often they were at the club vs the mansion.

We also don't know how much Jared interacted with her during these parties or if Bella was there. For all we know, Jared could have simply been trying to strain the relationship by keeping Lacey out, even if he couldn't interact much with her due to Bella being nearby.

Maybe these things will be shown during a future act, but I personally don't think we really need to to just because the story seems to suggest that Jared lost even if he came close to tearing MC and Lacey apart, although I'd be happy for an appropriate amount of lines during a therapy session from Lacey or something to clarify everything, whether she was lying about it being mostly innocent or not

 

[winterwolf200]

About the mansion, here's what we have from Mia, who isn't very reliable, but it's the best we have

M "By the way, I know exactly what happened during those 120 hours."
M "I'll be happy to tell you."
M "They had parties at Jared's giant McMansion."
M "He would bring in drugs and strippers."
M "Your wife was bored out of her skull almost the entire time."
M "Do you know how she passed the time?"
M "Drinking and having heart to heart conversations with the strippers."
M "The only time she participated was on nights they went to the club."
M "She would dance. By herself."
M "Some of the guys would whistle or yell at her."
M "Why? Because she's fucking hot."
M "She paid NO attention to them."
M "Everything she did was to survive the mind numbing boredom she felt."

So assuming that Mia is being honest, we still don't know how often they were at the club vs the mansion.

We also don't know how much Jared interacted with her during these parties or if Bella was there. For all we know, Jared could have simply been trying to strain the relationship by keeping Lacey out, even if he couldn't interact much with her due to Bella being nearby.

Maybe these things will be shown during a future act, but I personally don't think we really need to to just because the story seems to suggest that Jared lost even if he came close to tearing MC and Lacey apart, although I'd be happy for an appropriate amount of lines during a therapy session from Lacey or something to clarify everything, whether she was lying about it being mostly innocent or not

MC "Oh, when do you start your late schedule?"
L "..."
L "It starts tonight."
L "Is that okay?"
MC "Hey, if Veronica says this is important, then it is."
MC "She wouldn't make something up arbitrarily."
L "..."
L "No, Veronica's not like that."
MC "Are you okay?"
L "Um yeah."
L "Everything's good."
MC "Okay, if you're sure."
"I kiss Lacey and head out to work."
L "Please let this be worth it."
[...]
"The three weeks that changed everything between Lacey and I are a blur to me."
[...]
"The first week she stayed late three nights instead of two."
"She was apologetic, but I knew her and her team were working hard on this special project."
"I noticed by the end of the week that Lacey had started to grow distant."
"She complained of being tired and wouldn't say much."
"..."
".."
"."
"The second week was much worse."
"She worked late every night."
"Sometimes until close to midnight."
"There was a hollowness in her eyes when she came home."
"She barely looked at me."
"She barely spoke."
"Neither Mia nor Anna texted or called me."
"They weren't involved with the art department, so whatever was going on with them seemed to be unrelated."
"There are only a few moments with Lacey that are clear in my head."
"The first was Thursday night of the second week."
MC "Hey, there beautiful."
MC "I feel like I don't get to see you lately."
L "Yeah."
MC "You haven't really told me about how the project is going."
MC "Are you and your team hanging in there?"
L "..."
L "The work is exhausting."
L "I..."
MC "Are you alright?"
L "It's just..."
L "It's nothing."
L "You don't need to worry."
"Which of course means, I do need to worry."
"But I have no idea of what she's going through."
MC "Maybe you could talk to Veronica about taking a night off so you can rest?"
L "NO!"
L "Sorry, I mean, I can't."
MC "Okay."
MC "Is she driving you guys really hard?"
L "It's not that."
L "Veronica's great."
L "Look, I just don't have the strength to talk about this with you."
MC "I feel like I should be helping you or supporting you somehow."
MC "But I don't know what I can do."
MC "I know the creative process can be draining, but it seems like the work is overwhelming."
L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."
MC "If you need anything, let me know."
L "I'm sorry. I..."
L "I'm going to bed."
"What scared me the most wasn't how she talked to me."
"It was that her breath smelled like sour whiskey."
"Lacey went into work the next day without saying anything to me."
"She also worked Saturday and Sunday."
"I was starting to get pissed at Veronica."
"The next vivid memory was Friday of the third and final week."
"I hadn't seen Lacey other than in short spurts for days."
"I decided I would bring her coffee and a bagel to try and cheer up her morning."
"I also hoped I would bump into Anna or Mia."
[Supply closet event with Jared]
And on Sunday, pool event with Jared and the nightclub market party.
These are the reactions of someone that JUST went to some parties. YUP.

 

[Maviarab]

So assuming that Mia is being honest

Also, how does Mia know this? She wasn't there.....so it's the succubus' word of mouth to the pimps word of mouth (another known liar and defender of the succubus' secrets).

Like playing Chinese Whispers when one of them tell the MC something.

I'd be happy for an appropriate amount of lines during a therapy session from Lacey or something to clarify everything, whether she was lying about it being mostly innocent or not

Don't make me say it again. I feel like a L&J villian in this thread at times

 

[anongamer1983]

MC "Oh, when do you start your late schedule?"
L "..."
L "It starts tonight."
L "Is that okay?"
MC "Hey, if Veronica says this is important, then it is."
MC "She wouldn't make something up arbitrarily."
L "..."
L "No, Veronica's not like that."
MC "Are you okay?"
L "Um yeah."
L "Everything's good."
MC "Okay, if you're sure."
"I kiss Lacey and head out to work."
L "Please let this be worth it."
[...]
"The three weeks that changed everything between Lacey and I are a blur to me."
[...]
"The first week she stayed late three nights instead of two."
"She was apologetic, but I knew her and her team were working hard on this special project."
"I noticed by the end of the week that Lacey had started to grow distant."
"She complained of being tired and wouldn't say much."
"..."
".."
"."
"The second week was much worse."
"She worked late every night."
"Sometimes until close to midnight."
"There was a hollowness in her eyes when she came home."
"She barely looked at me."
"She barely spoke."
"Neither Mia nor Anna texted or called me."
"They weren't involved with the art department, so whatever was going on with them seemed to be unrelated."
"There are only a few moments with Lacey that are clear in my head."
"The first was Thursday night of the second week."
MC "Hey, there beautiful."
MC "I feel like I don't get to see you lately."
L "Yeah."
MC "You haven't really told me about how the project is going."
MC "Are you and your team hanging in there?"
L "..."
L "The work is exhausting."
L "I..."
MC "Are you alright?"
L "It's just..."
L "It's nothing."
L "You don't need to worry."
"Which of course means, I do need to worry."
"But I have no idea of what she's going through."
MC "Maybe you could talk to Veronica about taking a night off so you can rest?"
L "NO!"
L "Sorry, I mean, I can't."
MC "Okay."
MC "Is she driving you guys really hard?"
L "It's not that."
L "Veronica's great."
L "Look, I just don't have the strength to talk about this with you."
MC "I feel like I should be helping you or supporting you somehow."
MC "But I don't know what I can do."
MC "I know the creative process can be draining, but it seems like the work is overwhelming."
L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."
MC "If you need anything, let me know."
L "I'm sorry. I..."
L "I'm going to bed."
"What scared me the most wasn't how she talked to me."
"It was that her breath smelled like sour whiskey."
"Lacey went into work the next day without saying anything to me."
"She also worked Saturday and Sunday."
"I was starting to get pissed at Veronica."
"The next vivid memory was Friday of the third and final week."
"I hadn't seen Lacey other than in short spurts for days."
"I decided I would bring her coffee and a bagel to try and cheer up her morning."
"I also hoped I would bump into Anna or Mia."
[Supply closet event with Jared]
And on Sunday, pool event with Jared and the nightclub market party.
These are the reactions of someone that JUST went to some parties. YUP.

Of course. She felt guilty for lying to MC about where she was at and who she was with. If MC knew it was Jared's parties, he'd blow up. Remember, Lacey knew MC would hate it, but she felt like she had to do it to get the job to be "worthy" of MC. There's no evidence that she did anything physical with Jared, though it's totally possible she did.

There is a bit of evidence to support Lacey's claims that she didn't have sex with Jared, but not a lot. That's why I would like a review in therapy for it or something like that to give that confirmation, but I feel like the story suggests that "Jared Lost", but came close to winning.

 

[anongamer1983]

Also, how does Mia know this? She wasn't there.....so it's the succubus' word of mouth to the pimps word of mouth (another known liar and defender of the succubus' secrets).

Like playing Chinese Whispers when one of them tell the MC something.


Don't make me say it again. I feel like a L&J villian in this thread at times

Until there's a reason to believe that Lacey isn't actually attending therapy, then I have to believe she's in therapy. Most of my opinions are formed because Author states that this is supposed to be a love story between damaged people, not an NTR story. I personally wouldn't consider this a love story if Lacey is shown to fuck other people for a job or if she wouldn't go to therapy to recover. Sure, she could be lying now to go to therapy later, but until evidence shows otherwise, I have to have a slightly optimistic view of character actions and motivations since this is supposed to be a love story

If it were secretly an NTR story, then yeah, I'd be here theorizing all day about things Lacey could have or would have done with Jared and when they happened lol

EDIT: I will admit that a strong argument could be made that anything Lacey does before therapy could be due to her "issues", and that therapy fixes those "issues", so therefore she could have fucked Jared because her mind isn't right or whatever, but again, I'll believe it when I see it

 

[Maviarab]

love story between damaged people, not an NTR story

What does that or NTR got to do with her lying about therapy???

then I have to believe she's in therapy

but until evidence shows otherwise, I have to have a slightly optimistic view of character actions and motivations

Have to believe a known liar?

Let me tell you. Crysus' timeline is amazing. I'm making one far more detailed. I am on the day after the first supply room incident (after Lacey stops the tennis dates)...this is three weeks after drunk barty visits (there is a 3 week time skip here). No one, not even her defenders (or the pimp lol) can deny or argue anything I am about to write. Facts!

Just this early in the story:

The succubus outright lies to the MC 4 times. Outright lie to his face.
The succubus outright gaslights the MC 7 times...I'll type that for you...SEVEN times....
(For incidental sake, Anna gaslights him once and Mia on two seperate ocassions btw)

In the space of 4 weeks...3 outright lies and gaslights him 7 times....

Often these are on the same day, even same conversation. Used Ket at least once (confirmed)...(twice in my opinion)....behind the MC's back. Had visitors round without telling the MC.

All this, within one month (if we believe Veronica would never mistake how long Lacey has been working for her (so her start date is wrong...Anna/Lacey lied)...or, best case scenarion within 4 months of her coming back into the MC's life if you conveniently forget Veronica's dialogue, but this conversation is from Lacey's pov...so not a recollection from the MC , so should be taken as accurate imo - There's major timeline discrepancies here).

Seriously, I am asking a serious question because I really cannot fathom some people's thoughts in this thread...there is no evidence...anywhere...of any clinic visit (again, what husband like the MC would not have gone with her and one could argue she gaslights the MC here too saying didn't want to bring it up lmao) or any therapy visit. None. Just her word. No proof, no paperwork, never seen taking medication...do you not think with how much 'emphasis' is placed on her damage...this might just be shown?

How about this one for ya...she doesn't even take Mia with her to therapy for moral support, Mia sits in waiting room while Lacey has her session? Find that odd? She goes alone...no...

...Fry....Beauller....

You have to believe her?



Sorry but right now as we are in the full story, I'm far more inclined to believe Lacey's start date is wrong, that she and Anna lied about it (I wonder where she might have been then for 6 months...bit like the mystery 4 months she was...'somewhere' after leaving 2 days after prom in April before she could attend college at the and of Aug)...and the MC's thoughts (recollections remember) are all out of whack as to when things happened...than either Veronica mistaking one month for four...and/or that Lacey goes to therapy on her own.

 

[DeviantFun]

Of course. She felt guilty for lying to MC about where she was at and who she was with. If MC knew it was Jared's parties, he'd blow up. Remember, Lacey knew MC would hate it, but she felt like she had to do it to get the job to be "worthy" of MC. There's no evidence that she did anything physical with Jared, though it's totally possible she did.

There is a bit of evidence to support Lacey's claims that she didn't have sex with Jared, but not a lot. That's why I would like a review in therapy for it or something like that to give that confirmation, but I feel like the story suggests that "Jared Lost", but came close to winning.

There is more than enough evidence that she didn't have sex with Jared.
Else half of act 1 wouldn't make sense story wise.

There is also more than enough evidence that points to her being willingly groped "innocently".

Let's not beat around the bush, act 1 is full of Lacey doing horrible things, most of them relationship ending.
We know full well that if this story had any sort of realism injected into it, it would be over in 5 minutes of gameplay.
Or at least it would have created a lot more drama.

But honestly, for me the job thing is morally the worst and I think it has destroyed any chance Lacey had to be seen as a good partner/person by most of the playerbase.

She went behind her husband back to get this job, namely for him, in truth she was OK in flirting, being groped and dressing as a slut for her own validation and some dollars.
Remember she admits fully she was seeking Jared's validation (same as the schoolmarm comment).

For Lacey, no matter how you put it, Jared, or at least the validation he gave, was more important than MC.
Sure she would have the big job, sure she would buy MC a house but we know full well (because she says so) those were marginal motivations at best.

And there were no consequences at all, to the point where the black dress (that she apparently wore every night) is still a staple in Laceys wardrobe, a nice reminder about how MC is incompetent and weak to the core.

 

[winterwolf200]

Until there's a reason to believe that Lacey isn't actually attending therapy, then I have to believe she's in therapy. Most of my opinions are formed because Author states that this is supposed to be a love story between damaged people, not an NTR story. I personally wouldn't consider this a love story if Lacey is shown to fuck other people for a job or if she wouldn't go to therapy to recover. Sure, she could be lying now to go to therapy later, but until evidence shows otherwise, I have to have a slightly optimistic view of character actions and motivations since this is supposed to be a love story

If it were secretly an NTR story, then yeah, I'd be here theorizing all day about things Lacey could have or would have done with Jared and when they happened lol

EDIT: I will admit that a strong argument could be made that anything Lacey does before therapy could be due to her "issues", and that therapy fixes those "issues", so therefore she could have fucked Jared because her mind isn't right or whatever, but again, I'll believe it when I see it

She's already fucked Damian ...

 

[Maviarab]

There is more than enough evidence that she didn't have sex with Jared.
Else half of act 1 wouldn't make sense story wise.

There is also more than enough evidence that points to her being willingly groped "innocently".

Let's not beat around the bush, act 1 is full of Lacey doing horrible things, most of them relationship ending.
We know full well that if this story had any sort of realism injected into it, it would be over in 5 minutes of gameplay.
Or at least it would have created a lot more drama.

But honestly, for me the job thing is morally the worst and I think it has destroyed any chance Lacey had to be seen as a good partner/person by most of the playerbase.

She went behind her husband back to get this job, namely for him, in truth she was OK in flirting, being groped and dressing as a slut for her own validation and some dollars.

For Lacey, no matter how you put it, Jared, or at least the validation he gave, was more important than MC.

Had to highlight those for prosperity in case anyone reading them actually misses the importance of those actions/words. With Jared, in reality, she acted like a prostitute. Selling herself for a well paid job. It's asimple as that.

And there were no consequences at all, to the point where the black dress (that she apparently wore every night) is still a staple in Laceys wardrobe, a nice reminder about how MC is incompetent and weak to the core.

 

[DeviantFun]

She's already fucked Damian ...

Which was for a completely different motivation and "in the open".

This is not the evidence you are looking for.

 

[AL.d]

Which was for a completely different motivation and "in the open".

This is not the evidence you are looking for.

The different motivation applies until the moment she sees the calls and reads the messages. Everything happening after that, is Lacey doing something for herself.

 

[Fitharia]

She's already fucked Damian ...

Damian part is laying between Netorare and Netorase, it was partly agreed on, except she didn't listen to the mc's rules and her own rules, she was also using K.

But I'm sure she never had sex with Jared since that guy is far from bull material, he even loves to be cucked by the mc.

 

[winterwolf200]

Which was for a completely different motivation and "in the open".

This is not the evidence you are looking for.

Concerning the "this is supposed to be a love story between damaged people, not an NTR story", it is though. Depending on where the MC is heading from here. May be a romance story between OTHER damaged people though.

 

[winterwolf200]

But I'm sure she never had sex with Jared since that guy is far from bull material, he even loves to be cucked by the mc.

If you take Bella's word for it. Sure. Then again, she's the woman that in spite of everything still sleeps in Jared's bed. A love story between damaged people in it's own right.