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Heres is question that I have been mulling over. We have an issue with Mia for what she did, but if Mia didn't bring her past into the light would MC been able to stop Jared or would Jared have succeeded. The awareness of her past made MC pay attention to what was going on around her. If he didn't have that knowledge he might have brushed off those Jared encounters as nothing and Lacey would have ended up getting fucked.
You misunderstand why people have issues with Mia.

We have issues with her because she was Laceys's whore catalyst, initiator and abuser during college.
Trying to make Lacey distance herself from MC so that Mia could be the "only.one" making Lacey become a public toilet for her own amusement. Lacey admits she did it also to please Mia.
Mia took an unstable and weak girl and decided to use her to have fun, realising too late (she says so) that she was destroying and manipulating an empty shell.
When she discovers this she doesn't put a stop to it she keeps.going.
Mia was such a great friend that had had her friend degrade herself to impossible extent for her, so she could "up the ante".
Moreover she recorded all.of the stuff, so it can be used against Lacey or for her own spank bank and "protected" Lacey so much that there are porn videos of her on the Internet, involving minors too.

She almost managed to break Lacey's chances with MC, what she managed to do for sure, is creating a haunting past for Lacey.
Even if we take MC out of the picture, a past like that would cripple Lacey's chances to a happy relationship.

Then we get to present day.
Mia cries at Lacey's marriage because MC "stole" Lacey from her.
Mia hates MC and starts her funny game to destroy his marriage, so she can get her back, because she is the only one that "knows" her.

The does a 180 and changes her tune, claiming she has emotional intelligence while hurting MC with her "play acting".
Sure, why not, all is forgiven.

Do you remember when Evan SA Lacey and insults MC?
For Mia that is "hot", she is not worried for Lacey she doesn't care about MC, she cares about being a horny voyeur.
 
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Important thing in my opinion:

After replaying a few important passages, it seemed to me that something was still missing.
In fact, just before the meeting with Mia at the restaurant in her red dress, the mc thinks he has to ask Mia the question about the last part of the videos she had taken , which is supposedly different from the other crappy videos...we still don't have the answer for this last video...maybe the developer is saving it for act 2.
What do you think?
 

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Important thing in my opinion:

After replaying a few important passages, it seemed to me that something was still missing.
In fact, just before the meeting with Mia at the restaurant in her red dress, the mc thinks he has to ask Mia the question about the last part of the videos she had taken , which is supposedly different from the other crappy videos...we still don't have the answer for this last video...maybe the developer is saving it for act 2.
What do you think?
You mean the "last lesson" right?
I don't think we ever saw that, maybe it will be a big reveal of a new series of videos and pictures about Lacey thinking about MC or drawing him.

That would spin the 1460 days quite a bit, not a total absolution, she was still a selfish whore, but it would change the whole fact that she didn't care about hin.
 

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You mean the "last lesson" right?
I don't think we ever saw that, maybe it will be a big reveal of a new series of videos and pictures about Lacey thinking about MC or drawing him.

That would spin the 1460 days quite a bit, not a total absolution, she was still a selfish whore, but it would change the whole fact that she didn't care about hin.
Yes, that's “the last lesson”.

Hum a last video with “flowers and bees” ;) I'm not so sure after all the videos showing Lacey in all her “splendor” ....but why not, at least it would put some humanity back into this poor girl...although poor girl I'm not so sure after what she did with that MC guy.

An MC like that where all the girls are dropping like flies ...I would have divorced her a long time ago and let the
sperm bin can continue its miserable life.
Unfortunately the author has decided that it's the MC who's to blame because he's jealous, but who the fuck wouldn't be!

Hopefully, Act 2 will give us more choices, like kicking Lacey's ass and going off to live a good life with Kelly, who, in my opinion, is the best LI ever.
 
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If possible could you please include a back option on the text in the next update, the number of times I have had to reload save file is annoying. This game is great I am hoping for more sharing and maybe cuckolding and cuckqueen content.
 

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Yes, that's “the last lesson”.

Hum a last video with “flowers and bees” ;)I'm not so sure after all the videos showing Lacey in all her “splendor” ....but why not, at least it would put some humanity back into this poor girl...although poor girl I'm not so sure after what she did with that MC guy.

An MC like that where all the girls are dropping like flies ...I would have divorced her a long time ago and let the sperm garbage can continue its miserable life.
Unfortunately the author has decided that it's the MC who's to blame because he's jealous, but who the fuck wouldn't be!

Hopefully, Act 2 will give us more choices, like kicking Lacey's ass and going off to live a good life with Kelly, who, in my opinion, is the best LI ever.
Look the author is really drunk on american college critical theory, I don't know if he is painting the characters like that because they are just out of college or he is actually in on it.

Just.try to ignore those parts, he fails to underline what makes MC jealousy bad for him, it becomes.just a word that is thrown around like if it a disease.
And he becomes or defines himself as the bad guy, my man you are getting cucked in 4k, please find your spine.

I wrote recently how racist, sexist and out of touch a lot of the stuff the author shows.

Look I get what you mean about Lacey and Kelly would be absolutely perfect for MC.

I understand the dislike towards her, I also dislike a lot of what' she does, but at the cost of sounding arrogant, I feel like I understand her more than most here.
I understand her addiction, I understand her impulse control and.more than anything I understand the need to lie.

Those are not great things Lacey needs to face the music and be better, be a lot better, if she doesn't the end might be near and it won't be pretty for anyone, especially for her.

Unlike real life, MC seems to have a stronger support network than her.
We dont know how effective that would be but still.

As a side note all this sex rating the author keeps on showing down our throats aren't that good and could have been a better tool to show how the mental aspect of the act is more important to MC.
 

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Look the author is really drunk on american college critical theory, I don't know if he is painting the characters like that because they are just out of college or he is actually in on it.

Just.try to ignore those parts, he fails to underline what makes MC jealousy bad for him, it becomes.just a word that is thrown around like if it a disease.
And he becomes or defines himself as the bad guy, my man you are getting cucked in 4k, please find your spine.

I wrote recently how racist, sexist and out of touch a lot of the stuff the author shows.

Look I get what you mean about Lacey and Kelly would be absolutely perfect for MC.

I understand the dislike towards her, I also dislike a lot of what' she does, but at the cost of sounding arrogant, I feel like I understand her more than most here.
I understand her addiction, I understand her impulse control and.more than anything I understand the need to lie.

Those are not great things Lacey needs to face the music and be better, be a lot better, if she doesn't the end might be near and it won't be pretty for anyone, especially for her.

Unlike real life, MC seems to have a stronger support network than her.
We dont know how effective that would be but still.

As a side note all this sex rating the author keeps on showing down our throats aren't that good and could have been a better tool to show how the mental aspect of the act is more important to MC.
As much as I agree with the fact that it doesn't take much for Lacey to be much better, but frankly as soon as the slightest thing upsets her, bam, she immediately throws herself at the first guy who comes along (ex Will after having mistakenly sent text messages to Mia) without even looking more closely at what's going on because the MC is not at all the type to send responses like the ones she received.....in short, we have the impression that the author is doing everything to favor the moral torture of the MC. And that's without counting on the Damian affair or the guy at the end in the bar...she gets fucked in all directions by these 2 guys (following the route chosen for the 2nd) but oh baby I cum hard but it's you I'm thinking of, eh not the cock in my unprotected hole which also receives a good dose of sperm....what a beautiful, loving married woman who for 4 years has totally ignored the guy who has always protected and loved her...fuck let's hope for a big comeback even if it's HER who jumps off the clif:rolleyes:
 
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We will see how the author treat the open relationships.
He is definitely pushing towards MC having an hard on while getting cucked, even with Damian.
You can also talk about sharing Lacey with other men in the slut route.
And I think MC confirms he likes the Morty situation when you go through all of it (I might not remember this perfectly as I did it only once to see the story, as it was a disgusting scene).

But for sure MC will be able to get some action, probably more than Lacey if the ending and the copious amounts of LIs are taken into consideration.
I've stated on here several times my opinion on lacey and how i think she's a sex addict and got shut down constantly by others opinions which is fine, but i still believe she is and i see what's at least i think i see what she's trying to do for the MC and have him try other girls and stuff cause she did so many guys in college and he didn't so she feels perhaps obligated to let him try even if it "hurts" her i just can't see why she thinks she should even have a shot at being with anyone else other than the MC or would want to if she doesn't have some ulterior motive behind it after all she has done already without her being addicted to sex or having the need to be with other people be it for mental issues or whatever. My vision on most of the game is there is ALOT of stuff going on that the mc is not being told about and it annoys me especially if anna knows about it cause anna is the light in the darkness for me in this game and if she's hiding shit from the MC for lacey its gonna gut me seriously. I know i have a lot of conspiracy theory's about Lacey and i keep saying i think she's cheating behind his back and yes there is no proof yet but i just got a feeling she is.

that whole thing where the MC went on the "date" with Jannette and got home to a "drunk" lacey mad and slutty dress was another red flag in my log book of red flags, firstly when someone has been "drunk" in the past they had little yellow floaties around there head to signal us the player they are drunk, she didn't have those around her head and she was acting totally off and talking about will or whatever his name was groping her and shit supposedly to hurt the mc then the note and her gaslighting the mc the next day cause she "supposedly" texted mia on accident and explained it away yet again and claims he had a girlfriend yada yada, so maybe she took Ketamine again? i don't know perhaps the Dev forgot the yellow swirls i dunno

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Earlier in the game she opens her phone and lies it on the bed for the MC to check her phone and he doesn't like an idiot i really hope at some point he does go threw her phone and finds the shit out i think she has hidden in there.

On the subject of mia again, here is one of my hopes for my conspiracy's that the MC finally sleeps with mia and while i hate mia i hope it gets her to confess to the mc what other bs Lacey is doing and brings her completely to his side and she confirms my fears on what's really going on. Don't get me wrong i "sorta" like lacey i just don't get her or a lot of the things she's trying to do here it would make more sense to me to have a one sided open relationship for the MC if she really wants him to experience stuff but she clearly wants it too but is trying to ease it into him and this is why i keep coming back to her being a sex addict of some degree. she knows how he feels about it but keeps doing things that clearly show she wants to sleep with others and no one here seems to see it but me lol

As much as I agree with the fact that it doesn't take much for Lacey to be much better, but frankly as soon as the slightest thing upsets her, bam, she immediately throws herself at the first guy who comes along (ex Will after having mistakenly sent text messages to Mia) without even looking more closely at what's going on because the MC is not at all the type to send responses like the ones she received
GOD YES FINALLY someone who see's what i see!

another random thought but Lacey started therapy at the end of act 1.....WHY THE HELL isn't the mc in therapy?
 
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As much as I agree with the fact that it doesn't take much for Lacey to be much better, but frankly as soon as the slightest thing upsets her, bam, she immediately throws herself at the first guy who comes along (ex Will after having mistakenly sent text messages to Mia) without even looking more closely at what's going on because the MC is not at all the type to send responses like the ones she received.....in short, we have the impression that the author is doing everything to favor the moral torture of the MC. And that's without counting on the Damian affair or the guy at the end in the bar...she gets fucked in all directions by these 2 guys (following the route chosen for the 2nd) but oh baby I cum hard but it's you I'm thinking of, eh not the cock in my unprotected hole which also receives a good dose of sperm....what a beautiful, loving married woman who for 4 years has totally ignored the guy who has always protected and loved her...fuck let's hope for a big comeback even if it's HER who jumps off the clif:rolleyes:
Yes the author is looking for shock value at every corner, is one of his writing sins, at some point it sucks because it feels like a 80s/90s shoujo manga where it's tragedy after tragedy, you think it got a little bit better? Here is some more tragedy.

It is very overused, but I guess from the typos in the script that towards the end the author was feeling some fatigue, so he kept piling on what coulld have probably been separated by some other stuff, or simply did want to add more drama.
I mean he suggest that MC needs for Lacey to be fucked in a bathroom stall for "EMOTIONAL GROWTH".

The problem I have with the Will thing is that it comes after so many things, so many words from Lacey, so many promises of not hurting MC, but also Lacey telling MC that he's right to be angry and he could insult her because she deserves it.
It was honestlly very out of place, same as the Isaac thing, the author was looking for shock value and essentially thew Lacey under the bus (Lacey says that she hates him and doesn't want to see him again, especially because he humiliated MC).

Another thing you might have missed is that Lacey only answers angrily or badly at MC, to no one else but him, that is VERY weird after you notice.

The Damian thing is not well explained, MC confronts her by saying most of the things you said, exposing her lies.
We don't get an answer.

So I get what both you and JEEROX are saying, Lacey needs a couple of hard slaps to see if her brain get scrambled the right way.
But she also has good traits and is not deserving of death and suffering just because she is a stupid lying slut.
Whether she feels guilty and indebited to MC or needs him as a crutch she is convinced that she is in love with him.
That could be the saving grace.
Especially if the MC gets to really explore and have fun a bit, he needs that, after what she did to him, he should have a forever free pass!
 

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Yes the author is looking for shock value at every corner, is one of his writing sins, at some point it sucks because it feels like a 80s/90s shoujo manga where it's tragedy after tragedy, you think it got a little bit better? Here is some more tragedy.
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Maybe, but what the MC wants is not an open relationship, he simply wants a normal life as a couple with a truly loving and faithful woman, so fuck Laicey and long live Kelly or Anna who has always been there for him but especially not the MIA scum who does not even deserve an ounce of pity and this despite her past trauma that she could have dealt with otherwise than fucking up the life of another girl who was also traumatized
But hey it's a NTR porn VN, the author absolutely wants to humiliate the MC or share him with other women...it's a shame because I would have rather seen another option that would have allowed the MC to get out of this LAICEY shit and finally live happily...maybe in act 2.
 
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if you wanna really, i won't say enjoy the game cause its really hard at least for me to enjoy it but anyways i wouldn't read the comments here yet cause we covered alot in the last few days and its gonna spoil most of it play it first then comment and join the convo i agree with your current assessment on the story Mia should die IMO
 
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No one is shutting you down about the sex addict thing, it just doesn't fit the narrative, you are entitled to your opinion of course, but maybe it would be better if you substanciate your point so people can understand.

In many of my previous posts I've explained how Lacey behaviour matches strongly with an addict behaviour and maybe with the damages from ketamine, I am going to say maybe because she was selfish and impulsive even before trying the K, she abandoned MC on a whim leaving him to rot.

The other and more important thing that should be a red flag about Lacey coming back drunk, is that MC and her promised to have a big talk about her theraphy in the evening.
She chose to go party instead and THEN decided she didn't like how MC acted so it was time to punish him.

Whether she really let Will grope her or she just lie about it is up for debate, my tought is that no one leaves a "call me" note saying prettiest girl / sexy dress whille being in company of their GF who they are in love with.
Just a bit of respect you know?

The missing swirls could just be a way for the author to hide the facct and create more shock value.

Earlier in the game she opens her phone and lies it on the bed for the MC to check her phone and he doesn't like an idiot i really hope at some point he does go threw her phone and finds the shit out i think she has hidden in there.

On the subject of mia again, here is one of my hopes for my conspiracy's that the MC finally sleeps with mia and while i hate mia i hope it gets her to confess to the mc what other bs Lacey is doing and brings her completely to his side and she confirms my fears on what's really going on. Don't get me wrong i "sorta" like lacey i just don't get her or a lot of the things she's trying to do here it would make more sense to me to have a one sided open relationship for the MC if she really wants him to experience stuff but she clearly wants it too but is trying to ease it into him and this is why i keep coming back to her being a sex addict of some degree. she knows how he feels about it but keeps doing things that clearly show she wants to sleep with others and no one here seems to see it but me lol
Well MC is an american college student, he has been indocrtinated into a good beta :p.
Jokes aside, I can understand why someone wouldn't want to go down that path, it will just create a controlling relatioship that could cause more harm than good.
IMO he should have checked from time to time, Lacey admits she cannot make good decisions, it could help her to be guided through what could hurt their relationship.

I don't want to start with Mia again but her mere presence is really vomit inducing, she's a fucking abuser and a scumbag until it is not convenient enough to be.
Lacey's friend, yeah right.

Please explain the sex addict part, I'd really like to understand, because MC will never withold sex from her and he is described as a sex god that makes girls cum with 3 pumps (the sex scenes could be written better I think).


GOD YES FINALLY someone who see's what i see!

another random thought but Lacey started therapy at the end of act 1.....WHY THE HELL isn't the mc in therapy?
MC isn't in therapy because men's mental health is not taken seriously AND sorry to say therapy isn't for everyone.
His friends mentions he has PTSD and traumatic experiences (see the fetishism? self diagnosed shit left and right) but then no one suggest that to him.

In the end he seems strong enough to withstand a lot, good for him.


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You're right on all accounts, Anna is an MVP most of the time and Mia is literally a scumbag abuser, yet she is the "funny latina girl".
The fact that she is in the friend group or that Anna and MC actually befriend her is sickening.

please remember to save at the choices because each one give a different insight aside from the "no fun" because the author doesn't want MC to actually have certain feellings and still explore them.
MC is on his own on that path.
 
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Most of you are forgetting about the most important character trait of Lacey. You are pressing way to hard in the ketamine/alcohol braindamage. Yor are overstating these issues in my opinion. I think most of us, including me, are forgeting the major Issue.
And that is Laceys selfishness. Every single thing she did and does is out of pure selfishness, she was selfisch in middle school, in high school and of course in college. And guess what, she is still the same. If this is not being solved i don´t see a good outcome to this story.
 

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Most of you are forgetting about the most important character trait of Lacey. You are pressing way to hard in the ketamine/alcohol braindamage. Yor are overstating these issues in my opinion. I think most of us, including me, are forgeting the major Issue.
And that is Laceys selfishness. Every single thing she did and does is out of pure selfishness, she was selfisch in middle school, in high school and of course in college. And guess what, she is still the same. If this is not being solved i don´t see a good outcome to this story.
This has been mentioned multiple times yes, and yes you are correct, she very much is at times.
 

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This has been mentioned multiple times yes, and yes you are correct, she very much is at times.
I would put a big X on that "at times" :ROFLMAO:

She is always selfish, honestlly I do not find a single moment where she is not.
Even when trying to "fix" MC "jealousy", instead of giving him a free pass, she does plan a bit of fun for herself.

btw, I am almost done with the edits, can I dm you for a couple of opinions? I'd also like you to read or play it if the offer still stands.
I am not happy with it yet, it is just an initial draft but I woulldn't mind some inputs.
 
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Oh, btw i forgot to mention my opinion of the mc. In the beginning i felt really with him, but that went away when he reluctantly agreed to this supposed jealousy curing fuck date during business trip. He is clearly hating the thought of agreeing to it, but he still did.
He should have put his foot down. He is clearly not able to make healthy decisions in the relationship, he just lets everything happen.
The by far dumbest thing was how he handled the jealousy date. Despite being the director he failed to end it before it was to late.
Keep in mind how strongly he feels about kissing, yet he let it happen. We as players had no choice to end it before.
And it should have ended before the kiss. The date was a success.... until the kiss. I am tempted to write him off as a failure.
 

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I would put a big X on that "at times" :ROFLMAO:

She is always selfish, honestlly I do not find a single moment where she is not.
Even when trying to "fix" MC "jealousy", instead of giving him a free pass, she does plan a bit of fun for herself.

btw, I am almost done with the edits, can I dm you for a couple of opinions? I'd also like you to read or play it if the offer still stands.
I am not happy with it yet, it is just an initial draft but I woulldn't mind some inputs.
I would like to read it too if possible.
 

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I would put a big X on that "at times" :ROFLMAO:

She is always selfish, honestlly I do not find a single moment where she is not.
Even when trying to "fix" MC "jealousy", instead of giving him a free pass, she does plan a bit of fun for herself.

btw, I am almost done with the edits, can I dm you for a couple of opinions? I'd also like you to read or play it if the offer still stands.
I am not happy with it yet, it is just an initial draft but I woulldn't mind some inputs.
Yeah sure thing, won't be able to go through it 'in game' until tomorrow but yeah anytime, no need to ask, it was an open invitation on anything you justy want to double check etc :)
 
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