VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Badboll]

You are probably right, I am actually trying to read to much into the whole thing and create some depth to the whole narration that at the moment is missing.

I mentioned before many things happening feel that they have been written with a strong "american college" viewpoint. (or "woke" as you mentioned").

It feels that the writing is coming from a very young person with absolutely no idea how corporate culture is nowadays, what substance addiction does and how to deal with normal emotions such as jealousy and anger.

There are sevetral examples of this influence that you need to work hard to ignore:

- Anna talking about male ego instead of talking about MC personality or feelings.
- Trauma is fetishized and tratead as out of jail for free card.
- 70% of the characters have trauma as their defining trait
- Mia is an absolute monster of a person, but everything is forgiven because she is funny(?) and she obviously has trauma too
- Everyone forgives everyone else no matter what, especially MC, in a very synthetic way
- MC is never allowed to act on his emotions, suppressing them and calling himself an asshole for the smallest quip, that he would have any right to do.
- The work promotion was an absolute mess, as I said the author has no idea how companies work, the story is not portrayed in the 1950.
- The dialogue with Bella is a total mess of armchair psychology, and guess what happens at the end to Jared the alpha guy?

There are more exampl,es, at the end the only thing missing is some character speaking about toxic masculinity.
And you are right again, most of these "woke" behaviours are actually very dehumanizing.

Yeah he turned out to be a beta cuck the whole time and all his evil ways was just him lashing out because he had a small cock.
I did find that a little bit funny honestly.
But yeah the rest of what you wrote here is 100% correct and I agree fully.
I wrote about that in another comment which is why i didn't bring up again The fragile male ego thing is really dumb.
It has nothing to do with his bruised ego..or his ego at all.
I do like the game, though it just has to be said, that the writing isn't the best. But hey! I don't think I could do better.

 

[TomUK]

These Tags Will Not Be used:
Loli, Harem

This I find confusing in the context of the game, how can you have no HAREM with so many love interests and the wife wanted you to fuck then all, surely if the mc is going to allow Lacey to fuck guys, he should be fucking all the LIs otherwise what's the point of them, he isn't going to leave Lacey, and if he casts some sort of spell over them, then why the fuck isn't he going to have a harem.

 

[wercoil]

Me ... the game doesn't start, nothing happens after i double click the exe file.
Already tried to download a couple of times from diffent locations, nothing has changed
No error message, it isn't in the windows activities or processes, it seems it simply doesn't start
Maybe it's my really old laptop? i don't know, i use it for many other renpy games without any issue.
In the evening i'll try to run this game on my old gaming PC, then i'll update this thread.

Well, here i'm to update the situation
On my old gaming PC the game starts normally
Both my computers run on Windows 10 64 bit
The laptop is an old i7-4510u with NVidia GeForce 820M graphics card
The gaming one is an i7-5820K with NVidia GeForce GTX1070 graphics card
Maybe there are some minimum hardware requirements, probably the graphics card, and some computers do not meet them

 

[Maevos]

Yeah he turned out to be a beta cuck the whole time and all his evil ways was just him lashing out because he had a small cock.
I did find that a little bit funny honestly.
But yeah the rest of what you wrote here is 100% correct and I agree fully.
I wrote about that in another comment which is why i didn't bring up again The fragile male ego thing is really dumb.
It has nothing to do with his bruised ego..or his ego at all.
I do like the game, though it just has to be said, that the writing isn't the best. But hey! I don't think I could do better.

I keep thinking about the landlord, Evan and Jared. It is obvious that Jared only managed to go as far as groping her but it would have went further if MC hadn't intervened. She was laughing.

But what about Evan? Did she cheat in the shower room with him? The drunken landlord was also too specific about the blowjob. We know that Lacey lies about everything. You don't just go from college sextoy to loyal wife. She was using ketamine and sex as a coping mechanism, taking part in gangbangs with jocks and fratboys, getting fucked 15 times in a single night, being used as a cumdump etc. all the while Mia taking pictures of it. Now she has none of that.

By the way, according to the dev this is mostly a true story that happened years ago with porn logic sprinkled in but it's not his personal story even though he is affected emotionally by it. I think Bradley, the red haired guy, might be a self-insert for him.

 

[BigGay1010]

This is genuinely the most retarded game description I've ever seen. "I am not like other developers!" type shit

 

[Himaru Kiori]

I absolutly loved every minute of this game the Rollercoaster of emotions was amazing and reminded me of situations that happend in my life i cannot wait for the next Act i hope ots as good as the first

 

[uyhgsrfujfgujsfgju]

This is genuinely the most retarded game description I've ever seen. "I am not like other developers!" type shit

obvi this guy is mentally broken

 

[Taboofan]

saw that there were no real choices in one of the reviews. Is this accurate?

 

[Adhdclassic]

I keep thinking about the landlord, Evan and Jared. It is obvious that Jared only managed to go as far as groping her but it would have went further if MC hadn't intervened. She was laughing.

But what about Evan? Did she cheat in the shower room with him? The drunken landlord was also too specific about the blowjob. We know that Lacey lies about everything. You don't just go from college sextoy to loyal wife. She was using ketamine and sex as a coping mechanism, taking part in gangbangs with jocks and fratboys, getting fucked 15 times in a single night, being used as a cumdump etc. all the while Mia taking pictures of it. Now she has none of that.

By the way, according to the dev this is mostly a true story that happened years ago with porn logic sprinkled in but it's not his personal story even though he is affected emotionally by it. I think Bradley, the red haired guy, might be a self-insert for him.

I could believe that especially with these women hitting 3 figures in sex partners.

 

[Dragonlight]

Wow. What a ride. Please dev dont bench this project of yours for too long.

I especially liked contrast between the Damian scene and the last bar scene. Its like what Lacey wanted to do versus how she fumbled horribly the first time. Scenes mirror each other with camera setup and bar setting and stuff. But with Damien she was high af and could only mumble incomprehensively and could not communicate properly with mc. But Lacey stuck to her guns because, i think, she geniunely belives that her husband need to overcome his crippling insecurity and she thinks that is the best way. And she is kinda right i think. So the second try goes much better in my opinion. She is sober, her attention firmly on MC (Which MC misunderstand at first), MC remains in control of himself and later at home demonsrates that he understood what was going on. Yeah she kinda roped him into this whole situation, but the alternative is him being miserable and jealous for who knows how long(from her POV). And lets be honest separation doesnt seem like an option for them. And the result was kinda cathartic for me. I thinks they achieved first real breakthrough to heal MCs insecurity, but time will tell. I hope act 2 comes soon lol.

P.S. Im realy sorry about my frantic rambling folks. I slept realy little lol. Played this game late into the night. Then spent most of the day playing as well. Only took breaks to do house chores and cook food which i forgot to eat. Was too absorbed in the story. So if my ramblings doesnt make sense i apologise. So am i off the mark about the ending of act 1 what do you guys think ?

 

[Badboll]

I keep thinking about the landlord, Evan and Jared. It is obvious that Jared only managed to go as far as groping her but it would have went further if MC hadn't intervened. She was laughing.

But what about Evan? Did she cheat in the shower room with him? The drunken landlord was also too specific about the blowjob. We know that Lacey lies about everything. You don't just go from college sextoy to loyal wife. She was using ketamine and sex as a coping mechanism, taking part in gangbangs with jocks and fratboys, getting fucked 15 times in a single night, being used as a cumdump etc. all the while Mia taking pictures of it. Now she has none of that.

By the way, according to the dev this is mostly a true story that happened years ago with porn logic sprinkled in but it's not his personal story even though he is affected emotionally by it. I think Bradley, the red haired guy, might be a self-insert for him.

You are right about her lying and she seemingly can't stop doing it and she's done it so much the MC never knows when she is lying or telling the truth. So I guess we will have to wait and see. Since the dev likes to expose her lies and when she promises to not hurt the MC it comes out that she lied or immediately does something dumb and hurts him.
So I think we will get to those things. But the dev did write in to the story, that it was because of the MC that she actually started viewing sex as a positive thing, while doing all the things she did in college she was drugged up and drunk for a lot of it and like some of it didn't like a lot of it, it was a form of punishment to herself. That's how the story goes.
While she is lying about events and how she felt about them and how much she remembers and all that and I do not think we are done with that yet. The sex she had with the MC and why she cried when he creamed her on their wedding night was because she'd not experienced what sex was like with someone she actually loved. That's why the time she "cheat" on him with Damian it didn't go well and she fucked it up and the bar scene if you let her fuck the dude it went as she had wanted it to go the first time. Still not healthy behavior but still, a lot better. She wants him to know that pleasure from just having sex is nothing compared to what she gets from him.
oh and yeah this is most likely not a true story probably none of it. but if it was I think you are right about the self insert being Bradley.

 

[uyhgsrfujfgujsfgju]

saw that there were no real choices in one of the reviews. Is this accurate?

yeah

 

[Badboll]

saw that there were no real choices in one of the reviews. Is this accurate?

There will be later on if I understood correctly. We'll see.

 

[Sjohn99]

So downloaded this because the art looked hot. I skimmed some of the text in the game.
Who ever wrote this has some Very weird stuff going on in there head.
The story as far as I followed it was not very good.
The Dev put
"An NTR game written for people who don't like NTR" Nope missed this part of the description by a 1000 miles.

The ONLY people who would enjoy this story are Super NTR fans who like to be humiliated and have there balls stepped on.
To each there own though. Long story short the description is wrong and this is a story only for NTR fans.
The girls were super hot though.

 

[TomUK]

saw that there were no real choices in one of the reviews. Is this accurate?

I think the only choices were whether you wanted to see a relationship with an LI or not.

 

[DeviantFun]

I keep thinking about the landlord, Evan and Jared. It is obvious that Jared only managed to go as far as groping her but it would have went further if MC hadn't intervened. She was laughing.

But what about Evan? Did she cheat in the shower room with him? The drunken landlord was also too specific about the blowjob. We know that Lacey lies about everything. You don't just go from college sextoy to loyal wife. She was using ketamine and sex as a coping mechanism, taking part in gangbangs with jocks and fratboys, getting fucked 15 times in a single night, being used as a cumdump etc. all the while Mia taking pictures of it. Now she has none of that.

By the way, according to the dev this is mostly a true story that happened years ago with porn logic sprinkled in but it's not his personal story even though he is affected emotionally by it. I think Bradley, the red haired guy, might be a self-insert for him.

You are perfectly right on the laughing part, Mia is also surprised as she never heard her laugh.
Through all the time they spent together, through all the wild shit she never did a "nervous laugh".

As I mentioned multiple times, too many probablly, Lacey is lying to MC and maybe herself, she enjoys all of the attention, she enjoys being chased and touched by others.
The "cure the jealousy" part is just another manipulation to be able to fuck and make MC miserable and angry, emotions she enjoys, which probably reminds her of her father.
This is why she still want to be hurt in bed.
You don't cure jealousy by lying and fucking around.

It looks like she is training MC to be even weaker against her desires and use his low experience to force NTS or NTR as a fetish for him, you might not think so, but these things can be planted in someone's mind.

For the Landlord be aware that we are informed that he has seen videos of her on the net, this could explain the reason he knows she swallows.

Btw the fact that there are videos of her on the internet is known but never approached or looked at which is extremely weird.

You are right about her lying and she seemingly can't stop doing it and she's done it so much the MC never knows when she is lying or telling the truth. So I guess we will have to wait and see. Since the dev likes to expose her lies and when she promises to not hurt the MC it comes out that she lied or immediately does something dumb and hurts him.
So I think we will get to those things. But the dev did write in to the story, that it was because of the MC that she actually started viewing sex as a positive thing, while doing all the things she did in college she was drugged up and drunk for a lot of it and like some of it didn't like a lot of it, it was a form of punishment to herself. That's how the story goes.
While she is lying about events and how she felt about them and how much she remembers and all that and I do not think we are done with that yet. The sex she had with the MC and why she cried when he creamed her on their wedding night was because she'd not experienced what sex was like with someone she actually loved. That's why the time she "cheat" on him with Damian it didn't go well and she fucked it up and the bar scene if you let her fuck the dude it went as she had wanted it to go the first time. Still not healthy behavior but still, a lot better. She wants him to know that pleasure from just having sex is nothing compared to what she gets from him.
oh and yeah this is most likely not a true story probably none of it. but if it was I think you are right about the self insert being Bradley.

We will see about the lies, I don't think the dev makes a good job of exposing them, he does a couple of times, for minor stuff.
There are a lot of unexplained things that get left in the air, such as the laugh, why hiding even the first visits of the landlord, the tennis, the ass grab in the closet, the dresses, the choice of Damian, the choice of wanting to get desired and fucked by others.
Noithing is ever exposed, she gives a super weak explanation, sprinkles either "ketamine LOL" - "braindamage LOL" - "I apologize LOL" and that is it, MC caves in and life goes on.

As for the sex with Damian, we get exactly what I mentioned:

Why did you not pick a stranger that you would not know the name of?
"I knew his name and where he worked but that was it so it was a stranger"

Obviously this doesn't make sense with all the info we got, she dressed slutty, she went to the club / bar with him and was out in a minute

Why did you break the rules and didn't stop when I asked to?
"because you needed that, ketamine LOL" (having experience with that substance effects, the whole thing makes even less sense)

This drives MC suicidal, he was about to kill himself, she comes back home with a big smile and all is good, lets talk about boxes.

Why did you scream his name?
"Oh he needed to be reassured you know"

All the while mentioning that she was only thinking of MC and was disassociated from the fact or that she wasn't listening to him.
She was so disassociated (again that is not how it works) that she spent time remembering the guy's name and using it constantly.
She gives Damian MC's name, she doesn't stop him humiliating him, again no explanation, the lies do not get exposed.

MC doesn't need to know that pleasure with him is better, or at least he can be told, if the lies would ever stop.
He needs a faithful and loving wife, that shows commitment to a relationship and is willing to make amends for her mistakes.
Fucking other people is not for MC, especially since then we get another nice explanation that contradicts everything she ever said: "Hey I have nerve endings of course it is gonna feel good / oh yeah it feels good and it is your fault".

I mean I understand this is a game for people with that particular fetish and it is a plus to have these things inserted, I would just prefer that things would make a bit more sense in the writing.

I have had open relationships before, but first of all I knew that I couldn't be serious in them on the long run (but that is just me) and as a second point they were never forced like this one, else they wouldn't have lasted.

I think you can remove the quotes from "cheat", she cheated on him, period, and then forces MC to accept the fact that she will cheat again.
She cheated, at least emotionally, in college (debatable, but the dialogues from her admit it), she cheats on him with the clothes, she cheats with Damian, she cheats emotionally with Isaac.

 

[Dragonlight]

She wants him to know that pleasure from just having sex is nothing compared to what she gets from him.

I agree, but i think its not only about sex. MC is in a vicious cycle of getting jealous and angry -> he lashes out -> he feels guilt for lashing out -> beating and demaning himself over it. They both hurting as a result. But in Lacey`s mind she is not gonna leave him. Period. Full stop. So she is provoking jealosy unwilingly(kinda, except when she is doing it willingly) because in her mind there is nothing for him to worry about. lol. Usualy when she tells you not to worry about it kinda well you know what i mean. But Lacey realy thinks there is nothing to worry about because she is so so shure in her feelings. So she hatched a plan to break the cycle, to make mc feel secure in their marriage. Thats why i mean its not about only sex its about overall confidence of MC. Him dating other girls is part of the plan too. This is very Lacey plan, it is not normal because she is not normal. She fumbled on the first step so bad that she nearly ended all.

God i am rumbling again. ) The game stuck in my head. Good job, Professor Amethyst. )

P.S. I have a theory that as the story progress its the MC who will turn into raving nymphomaniac. Lacey and MC roles will be reversed in the future maybe ? There are signs. He flirts with everyone like he cant help himself.

 

[TomUK]

Hmm, not quite, the MCs jealousy turns her on, that's why she wants to 'cuck' him, and he not only gets jealous when she is with another guy, he gets turned on by it as well. I just want to know why he has all the other girls around if he isn't going to fuck them willingly and the game isn't going to have a harem.

 

[Saphfire]

Holy shit, that took me onto a rollercoaster of emotions.
The writing is outstandingly good! Still have no clue how i am handling Lacey. In reality i would never ever stay with a slut like her.
I get the whole ketamine shit, but is it enough to forgive and forget? I don´t know, will have to wait how it develops in the next chapter.

 

[DeviantFun]

I agree, but i think its not only about sex. MC is in a vicious cycle of getting jealous and angry -> he lashes out -> he feels guilt for lashing out -> beating and demaning himself over it. They both hurting as a result. But in Lacey`s mind she is not gonna leave him. Period. Full stop. So she is provoking jealosy unwilingly(kinda, except when she is doing it willingly) because in her mind there is nothing for him to worry about. lol. Usualy when she tells you not to worry about it kinda well you know what i mean. But Lacey realy thinks there is nothing to worry about because she is so so shure in her feelings. So she hatched a plan to break the cycle, to make mc feel secure in their marriage. Thats why i mean its not about only sex its about overall confidence of MC. Him dating other girls is part of the plan too. This is very Lacey plan, it is not normal because she is not normal. She fumbled on the first step so bad that she nearly ended all.

God i am rumbling again. ) The game stuck in my head. Good job, Professor Amethyst. )

P.S. I have a theory that as the story progress its the MC who will turn into raving nymphomaniac. Lacey and MC roles will be reversed in the future maybe ? There is signs. He flirts with everyone like he cant help himself.

You do not know what Lacey really thinks as she lies to everyone, including herself, neither do I, but she is an addict, once you are an addict you will forever be an addict.
I not saying this in a negative way, it is just what it is, sadly.
Addicts think about immediate gratification, they do not think about the long term, and you can see this in all of Lacey actions.

She is not thinking about MC there, she is not breaking any cycle, she is creating occasions for herself to feed her addiction.
Want to break the cycle? stop lying, stop craving other men attention, stop humiliation him publically and if we really want to go a bit on the deep end give MC a free pass to do whatever he wants so you can prove your "sex is just sex" point.

None of this is done, because she is doing it for herself.

Do you really think that it was MC that awoken her to sex? That sex is now pleasurable thanks to him? If you have the chance, go and read the effects of keta on dopamine.
Her body is just recoveing, whether she knows this or not is up to debate.