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I just replayed the game and frankly I have started to have a more detailed vision of where this might be leading, on the slut path I think the MC is going to basically run a porn empire, just like the bad guys want to do, built around Lacey. Basically she'll be a porn actress and fuck people on set, while the MC is going to run the business and fuck his harem of girls. It will be a bitter sweet ending where they are still married, still in love, effectively in a open relationship, having overcome their jealousy and using the porn to sort of keep Lacey more pacified. They'll effectively just give up trying to keep their relationship under control and just go with the flow, no matter how their relationship might grow weaker due to the inevitable distance growing between them.

One thing I noted is like you said, I believe Lacey is trying to corrupt the MC, she thinks at one point to herself how he isn't ready to face her other self, but their are implication its something that she believe could be happening in the future, so its sounds like she think he is undergoing a process that would enable him to live with whatever 'her other self' is supposed to be. Its possible that its her unstated goal all along, break him down until he is corrupted enough for her to be able to go back to some degree to what she was in College, I mean when you consider some of her 'Dark Fantasies' stated one of reenacting the 3 weeks with Isaac, but with him and the other I forgot, but its in a similar vibe, its clear she want him to treat her like a slut, Hell, if you read the walkthrough she get bonus love points on the Slut Path, so yea that is what she want, to return to being a slut, his slut but a slut none the less, she is trying to break him down into accepting that, accepting to let her be a slut, likely abandoning their 'normal' life in favor of living a more depraved lifestyle, which goes again into why I think at least on the Slut Path at the end they are going to go into the business of porn, between her that is going to be an actress Veronika reopening her OnlyFans under the control of the MC, its obvious their is a subtext of heading toward a porn career for the group.

As for the punishment path, it might be something less like porn and more like a sex club or something, getting into a BDSM lifestyle with the MC as her Dom (while in truth she is going to be the one in control), so she'll effectively manipulate him being into commanding her to sleep with other people of his choice, like she mentioned that she'd fuck anyone he'd ask. So to give him a false sense of control over her, while achieving her own depraved goals of returning to a more sluttish life. So again corrupting him so he'll be capable of accepting her 'other self' which is likely in actuality her 'true' self, the one she became in College, rather than the tone down pretense she had to embrace since returning to him for the sake of not scaring him away, after all she also said she'd lie to him and say and do anything to get him back, so pretending to be a good wife, while secretly being a slut that aspire to be freed from the pretense, so she is working on turning her husband into someone that would be capable of accepting her as she became in College.

I assume the Vanilla Path would be basically the path where she failed to corrupt her husband and has to keep her other self permanently repressed. Having to accept to live a lie rather than lose him. So at the end its going to be them being together while he still has his girls on the side, not a satisfying ending for her, but better for him likely. I mean she clearly stated that even if she fell out of love with him she would still stay with him because she owes him too much. So yea either three of the paths would lead to a bitter sweet ending that would likely leave their relationship variably weaker, but no matter what she wouldn't leave him because of that debt she feel she owes him.
Some of those things have been argued, but also have had counter points that I would say are pretty strong arguments to dismiss the theory.

That said, I don't know... but I will say that I don't think the professor is going down a standard NTR route (he is pretty clear he dislikes those types of stories), so while I do think there are some "gotchas" coming in various forms, I don't think we are likely to see the MC or even Lacey for that matter develop to those theories. They are loosely supported and have major conflicts with a large portion of the character writing so far.


Like I said, it is really early in the story to see how this plays out and so far the "choices" the player makes are less "game" and more story flavor, but ultimately this is just a linear story so far. Nothing you choose has any real major direction change, but this could change.

I would be disappointed if this story turns more into the traditional NTR slop out there and I honestly don't think that is where we are heading. That isn't to say we won't be in for some major story turn or resolution, if you have played "On Distant Shores" (his other VNs), it had a rather hard turn that people disliked, so there may be something odd that could twist in.
 
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The story is setup so far as some sort of redemption progression though. Lacey knows she did wrong, Mia acknowledges it, but there are holes as none of them "act" on it. Sure, there are half hearted, good intentions in speech and recognition with some, but when it comes to real action
excusing all attacks on him and continues to leave the offending parties (Lacey, Mia, the women) in some sort of limbo of never having to accept responsibility,
Lacey will continue to fuck up....professor's words....

so its sounds like she think he is undergoing a process that would enable him to live with whatever 'her other self' is supposed to be. Its possible that its her unstated goal all along, break him down until he is corrupted enough for her to be able to go back to some degree to what she was in College,
The other side existed well before they went to college....
 

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Sounds like the options are:

1. Standard NTR ending: MC is remains a spineless, shameless cuck but decides he enjoys being a spineless, shameless cuck (but he doesn't really). I don't like it, but it seems to be the industry standard.

2. Corruption: MC goes off the deep end with depravity and remains in a relationship where everyone uses everyone else. Self-love is the only love. Not a good ending for me, but different and better than ending 1. Interesting, I must admit.

3. Detox ending: MC wakes up and realizes *everyone* he knows is toxic to him so he stands up, moves away, breaks all ties, and starts a new life. Probably the best possible outcome for him although he'll remain too damaged to every really love or trust again. At least he will have done *something* positive to improve himself.

For the rest of his life he'll be that quiet guy who drinks alone in the bar. He obviously is sad and has a story but never shares it with anyone because he is incapable of ever trusting again (because, why should he?).

I don't see the detox as revenge because he doesn't take these steps to "get even." He realizes that he's the clown in everyone else's circus and the only healthy solution for him is to leave. Personally, I see no possible positive outcome for the MC that has Lacey, Mia, or any of the others remaining in his life. Leave the whores to do whore things without you.

After all of what these people did to him, unless he suffers a full lobotomy or they drug him constantly, I don't see how redemption is possible. And if he does remain with Lacey, he fully deserves to suffer for eternity (and, in that case, I hope that he does suffer).

In this case, the redemption arc means the MC redeems himself by doing what he must to allow self-healing.
 
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I think the hard part with this story is it has a good solid story to tell about the topics, but... can easily be distracted by porn concepts. The "porn" works in the story to create shock value, to attend to difficult concepts that would otherwise be "hands off" in other formats, but it can end up driving resolutions to the story that IMO could damage the meaningful topics of the story if it starts chasing kinks.

I guess we will see what happens. At this point it is a lot of theory early on, and still a lot of story to see how things play out. Act 3 will certainly set a better understanding as to where things are heading and it will be interesting to see how the conversations shift once that information is made available.
 

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Sounds like the options are:

1. Standard NTR ending: MC is remains a spineless, shameless cuck but decides he enjoys being a spineless, shameless cuck (but he doesn't really). I don't like it, but it seems to be the industry standard.

2. Corruption: MC goes off the deep end with depravity and remains in a relationship where everyone uses everyone else. Self-love is the only love. Not a good ending for me, but different and better than ending 1. Interesting, I must admit.

3. Detox ending: MC wakes up and realizes *everyone* he knows is toxic to him so he stands up, moves away, breaks all ties, and starts a new life. Probably the best possible outcome for him although he'll remain too damaged to every really love or trust again. At least he will have done *something* positive to improve himself.

For the rest of his life he'll be that quiet guy who drinks alone in the bar. He obviously is sad and has a story but never shares it with anyone because he is incapable of ever trusting again (because, why should he?).

I don't see the detox as revenge because he doesn't take these steps to "get even." He realizes that he's the clown in everyone else's circus and the only healthy solution for him is to leave. Personally, I see no possible positive outcome for the MC that has Lacey, Mia, or any of the others remaining in his life. Leave the whores to do whore things without you.

After all of what these people did to him, unless he suffers a full lobotomy or they drug him constantly, I don't see how redemption is possible. And if he does remain with Lacey, he fully deserves to suffer for eternity (and, in that case, I hope that he does suffer).

In this case, the redemption arc means the MC redeems himself by doing what he must to allow self-healing.
I don't think you've quite got it with the endings, I suspect the endings will directly correlate to the paths we chose, Slut / Punishment / Vanilla. Also I suspect to some degree it will mirror Always Fan, at the end the MC will steal the business the bad guys wanted to make for his group and decide based on the path what to do with it.

Slut Path, the MC will do exactly what they wanted to do, create a Porn Studio based on Lacey, where the MC he is running the business, Lacey is the main actress and Mia might end up being in a way like she was in College, the Director. Its not going to be a NTR ending but NTS, they are still in love, but they have a open relationship to some degree, mostly Lacey get to fuck around on set as much as she want, while the MC fuck off set his girls. Its probably the scenario the MC is least happy about, but Lacey is the most happy about.

Punishment Path, the MC will open something more along the lines of a sex club, where he is in charge and he is effectively the 'Dom' of Lacey (even if in actuality she is in charge, she is just willing to go with anything he wants so it give the illusion to him of control). So just like she already claimed she'll have sex with anyone he tell her to, allowing her to slut it up to some degree, while giving the MC the illusion of control he desperately want. Both the MC and Lacey will be mildly happy about the outcome, reaching something of a middle ground.

Vanilla Path, they'll turn business into a legitimate business that the MC will run, on that path Lacey will be lockdown her inner slut and and be forced to behave permanently, ultimately on that path the MC will be the happiest and Lacey the least happy.

Inevitably the corruption is going to happen in the first two paths and not happen in the third, as the MC rejected the options that would lead him into a kinkier lifestyle. The notion that the MC will leave Lacey is ridiculous, as I said I am pretty sure the Dev favor Lacey above the MC, so he'll remain at her side because that is what she'll favor no matter what ending happen. Again as for the standard NTR ending, the Professor is said to hate NTR, so I really doubt its going to be going that way, its going to settle either for NTS on the two corrupted paths or on Vanilla neither NTR or NTS, Lacey will have failed to corrupt the MC so she'll be behave because as she said she'll never leave him, only he can leave her, because even beyond love she consider she owes him her life, so no matter how slutty she turns she won't abandon him because she wouldn't ever be willing to do that.

There is no doubt there. At some point the story will need to end though. So either she redeems herself, he leaves her, or some other conclusion.
Again I don't believe this story is about redemption, but acceptance, in all paths Lacey accepting she need to overcome her jealousy and accept to share her husband if she wants to keep him and him overcoming his own jealousy if he want some peace of mind. While on the two corrupted paths the MC will accept Lacey's other side, and let her slut it up to some variable degree so that she'll be happy. At no point she is ever going to redeem herself because again the Dev has clearly shown that they want the MC to embrace Lacey's ideology. Even on the Vanilla Path its merely going to be about her learning to shutdown her inner slut to keep her marriage, not actually redeem herself to her husband, but merely stop being a slut.
 
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I won't say that you're wrong (my crystal ball doesn't work very well)... ...I'll just say I have trouble accepting any ending where MC still has Lacey, Mia, etc., in his life and calling that "good." What they did to him can neither be forgiven nor forgotten and if MC doesn't do anything to stand up for himself then... oh, well. You all know where I stand. I'll stop now.
 

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I suspect the endings will directly correlate to the paths we chose, Slut / Punishment / Vanilla.
There is no doubt about it.

at the end the MC will steal the business the bad guys wanted to make for his group
Why should he steal this business? He did not steal anything from Jared when he won. Well may be he will steal his fiancee, but definitely not the business or position or anything like that. I would rather see him to rise in position in the company he is working at. He already became a director of IT. I can imagine him becoming a CTO or something.

the Dev has clearly shown that they want the MC to embrace Lacey's ideology
Where was this stated? I think I've missed it.
 
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I won't say that you're wrong (my crystal ball doesn't work very well)... ...I'll just say I have trouble accepting any ending where MC still has Lacey, Mia, etc., in his life and calling that "good." What they did to him can neither be forgiven nor forgotten and if MC doesn't do anything to stand up for himself then... oh, well. You all know where I stand. I'll stop now.
Be that is it may, ultimately it doesn't matter what you think but what the Dev think, and by all indications the Dev favor Lacey, its why the MC leaving Lacey I very much doubt is going to be an option.

There is no doubt about it.

Why should he steal this business? He did not steal anything from Jared when he won. Well may be he will steal his fiancee, but definitely not the business or position or anything like that. I would rather see him to rise in position in the company he is working at. He already became a director of IT. I can imagine him becoming a CTO or something.

Where was this stated? I think I've missed it.
Frankly the only reason I came to the assumption the MC & Co might steal the bad guys business is because I had a sudden feeling of similarity with Always Fan, which is what happen at the end of that game, I could be wrong but its a vibe I find myself having felt.

As for why the Dev want the MC to embrace Lacey's ideology? That is simple, at one point the MC start pondering on Lacey's whole notion that her having sex with someone else doesn't matter, and he start understanding, accepting and supporting the notion of that idea. I recall playing that part and my brain stopped on the dime and I thought 'this is non-sense' why the fuck is the MC thinking that? Because its clearly is something the Dev has decided would be impressed upon the MC. I can't see any reason for the MC to just gobble that bullshit otherwise.
 
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As for why the Dev want the MC to embrace Lacey's ideology? That is simple, at one point the MC start pondering on Lacey's whole notion that her having sex with someone else doesn't matter, and he start understanding, accepting and supporting the notion of that idea. I recall playing that part and my brain stopped on the dime and I thought 'this is non-sense' why the fuck is the MC thinking that? Because its clearly is something the Dev has decided would be impressed upon the MC. I can't see any reason for the MC to just gobble that bullshit otherwise.
Yes author clearly stated that he likes Lacey. But it does not mean, that he will sacrifice anything for it. I'm honestly have no idea where this is all going because author is pretty good at writing twists in plots and have a decent amount of fantasy. I can imagine a good amount of different ways where this could go including pretty mind-blowing scenarios. I can imagine that one of possible scenarios could be that MC will be "corrupted" and accept Lacey's depravity for some degree. It can be also not the porn empire, but just camming - they will fuck and stream it online and then at some point they would invite someone else etc. But honestly this would be not my favorite route if it will be like this. I hope that Professor will invent something more interesting.

Regarding the fact that Lacey has some hidden part of her personality. I just thought recently, that we all here take for granted, that this side means "sluttyness" or "depravity" but why is it so? May be we are wrong and its something completely different?
 

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Be that is it may, ultimately it doesn't matter what you think but what the Dev think, and by all indications the Dev favor Lacey, its why the MC leaving Lacey I very much doubt is going to be an option.
I recognized from the beginning that the developer would tell the story as he wanted. I had believed this was a forum to discuss our impressions and opinions; clearly I was mistaken.

I came to accept some time ago that I will be left disappointed and unfulfilled by the outcome of this project. It is what it is.
 

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Be that is it may, ultimately it doesn't matter what you think but what the Dev think, and by all indications the Dev favor Lacey, its why the MC leaving Lacey I very much doubt is going to be an option.



Frankly the only reason I came to the assumption the MC & Co might steal the bad guys business is because I had a sudden feeling of similarity with Always Fan, which is what happen at the end of that game, I could be wrong but its a vibe I find myself having felt.

As for why the Dev want the MC to embrace Lacey's ideology? That is simple, at one point the MC start pondering on Lacey's whole notion that her having sex with someone else doesn't matter, and he start understanding, accepting and supporting the notion of that idea. I recall playing that part and my brain stopped on the dime and I thought 'this is non-sense' why the fuck is the MC thinking that? Because its clearly is something the Dev has decided would be impressed upon the MC. I can't see any reason for the MC to just gobble that bullshit otherwise.

If you could share some of whatever it is your on to come up with the crazy theories. Unless you are just trolling to try to stir things up.

I mean seriously, I don't think there is anything that has been given to us in the game that gives any hint that the MC, Lacey, or any of the MC's group wants to have a porn empire. Outside of Veronica having an exhibitionist side I don't think anyone else has even hinted at this.
 
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I don't think anyone can lay claim to any direction or resolution in this story. The professor has done some interesting turns in his previous works, so I seriously doubt anyone can foretell a specific path or expectation, hence the discussion.

It is even possible that Lacey could end up dying in this story, at the hands of the MC even (remember her claiming that this is the way she would want to go and it has been highlighted a couple of times in the dialogue).

No need to draw lines in the sand, besides... doing so will only make people look foolish if it doesn't turn out as proclaimed.

Again, nothing wrong with throwing at possible theories... also nothing wrong with shooting the ones down that aren't supported well by the current story works, but in the end... what will be is what will be WHEN it is revealed, no earlier, no later.
 

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I don't think anyone can lay claim to any direction or resolution in this story. The professor has done some interesting turns in his previous works, so I seriously doubt anyone can foretell a specific path or expectation, hence the discussion.

It is even possible that Lacey could end up dying in this story, at the hands of the MC even (remember her claiming that this is the way she would want to go and it has been highlighted a couple of times in the dialogue).

No need to draw lines in the sand, besides... doing so will only make people look foolish if it doesn't turn out as proclaimed.

Again, nothing wrong with throwing at possible theories... also nothing wrong with shooting the ones down that aren't supported well by the current story works, but in the end... what will be is what will be WHEN it is revealed, no earlier, no later.
Fair enough.

I think it is quite possible for this to end with death.
It could be a Romeo and Juliet ending.
 

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Yes author clearly stated that he likes Lacey. But it does not mean, that he will sacrifice anything for it. I'm honestly have no idea where this is all going because author is pretty good at writing twists in plots and have a decent amount of fantasy. I can imagine a good amount of different ways where this could go including pretty mind-blowing scenarios. I can imagine that one of possible scenarios could be that MC will be "corrupted" and accept Lacey's depravity for some degree. It can be also not the porn empire, but just camming - they will fuck and stream it online and then at some point they would invite someone else etc. But honestly this would be not my favorite route if it will be like this. I hope that Professor will invent something more interesting.

Regarding the fact that Lacey has some hidden part of her personality. I just thought recently, that we all here take for granted, that this side means "sluttyness" or "depravity" but why is it so? May be we are wrong and its something completely different?
I mean I did think of what that hidden side would be, and the reason I assume its about sluttyness and depravity is because ultimate what else could it be? 1) The Secret Side is Pre-College Lacey, if that would be the case she wouldn't be worried about him because if anything that is what he'd like, so she would have eagerly revealed it, anything that could be related to a more 'innocent' Lacey would have been welcomed. 2) The Secret Side is a Murderer, this is the only other thing it could be, and their has be zero signs of her secret self being that, if at any point their had been a mention of her parents having died some gruesome unresolved death, I could have considered that option, however... frankly the MC wouldn't have minded likely that outcome, so if that was the case its not something she would have needed to hide from him. So it can only be something sexual, and something bad enough to be an issue for the MC, so either she is a nymphomaniac slut and has been desperately trying to hide it and hold herself together, or its some pretty significant depravity, like she is very masochistic. However I'll bring back something I mentioned, the walkthrough, you can see Lacey give you more LP for the Slut Path, if it was something like masochism she'd have loved more the punishment path, but not a single mention of that, so clearly its related to being a slut.

If you could share some of whatever it is your on to come up with the crazy theories. Unless you are just trolling to try to stir things up.

I mean seriously, I don't think there is anything that has been given to us in the game that gives any hint that the MC, Lacey, or any of the MC's group wants to have a porn empire. Outside of Veronica having an exhibitionist side I don't think anyone else has even hinted at this.
Again the three reasons I have to think they'd form a porn business: 1) as you said Veronika wishing to restart her only fan under the MC's management, 2) the bad guys wanting to form a porn business around Lacey feel foreshadowing somewhat, and made me think of the game Always Fan, which is one of the potential outcomes, stealing somehow their business as part of stopping them would be an imaginable scenario, possibly blackmailling them in giving over control instead of having them sent to prison, 3) Lacey herself, its clear that she want to have sex with other people than the MC, she was way into doing what she did with Damian, and even kissing baldy at the bar, she has a jealousy kink, monetizing that kink by making herself an porn actress and having the MC watch from the back would be completely fitting for her, she doesn't consider having sex with other people as cheating, or think of it as being a problem in any shape or form, because she'll always come back to the MC, on the punishment path (I think) she also mentioned the idea of the MC telling her to fuck other people of his choice, its clearly something she not only have no problem with but when you think of everything else, something she'd likely want. Finally her 'other self' as I mentioned above their is no reasonable explanation for her keeping it secret pretty much unless its something that relate to sluttiness and depravity, something she didn't think the MC could handle, but something as I stated it seemed she believed in time he could come to handle, so considering what she got up to in College, do you really think her wanting to actually willing become a porn actress seem that much of a shocking idea? No it seem to fit her mindset perfectly fine.
 
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Again the three reasons I have to think they'd form a porn business: 1) as you said Veronika wishing to restart her only fan under the MC's management.
Correct, Veronika did say that. However, the MC has shown no desire to do anything like this and has even said that he is against sharing. And as for the other girls, Mia in her current state is NOT doing porn of any type. And Anna has no shown no desire to have sex with anyone but the MC. I'm not even sure she would have sex with someone else even if the MC ask her to which he would not based on what we know of him up to this point.

As far as Lacey is concerned...

3) Lacey herself, its clear that she want to have sex with other people than the MC
Is it though? I don't think this is clear at all. I know there are those here on these forums that know the material much better than I do and please correct me if I'm forgetting anything, but let's look at what we know from the material.

At a point in college Lacey decided to clean herself up. She falls off of the bandwagon several times and it all comes to a head with her three weeks with Isaac.
After Isaac how many men (other than the MC) has she slept with?
If memory serves the answer is one. Damian (2 depending on how far you took Morty).
Of these how many has she had sex with while sober? That would be 0. (or 1 with Morty)
With both Damien and Morty she did both of those because she had some fucked up idea that doing it would be better for her relationship with the MC. She is not motivated by sex. She is motivated by her relationship with the MC. You are correct that she does not see sex as a big deal and she does not have a problem using it as a tool which is exactly what she is doing the her love experiment. But she also hasn't shown that she wants to go out and sleep around outside of being with the MC.

I accept the fact that it is possible that we could learn that there have been others. We could learn that she has cheated with others that she had sex with while not trying to make her marriage better.
However, at this point we don't any proof to the contrary.
 

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I wanted to talk about lacey's punishment options: Slut / Punishment / Vanilla.
To me, all the options seem completely idiotic and unviable, so I always chose vanilla not as the best, but as the least idiotic.
Who in their right mind would even suggest such crap as a punishment?
Of course, it’s possible that I’m behind the times and that this is now widely practiced in families, but something tells me that this is simply the logic of a pervert.
 
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Correct, Veronika did say that. However, the MC has shown no desire to do anything like this and has even said that he is against sharing. And as for the other girls, Mia in her current state is NOT doing porn of any type. And Anna has no shown no desire to have sex with anyone but the MC. I'm not even sure she would have sex with someone else even if the MC ask her to which he would not based on what we know of him up to this point.

As far as Lacey is concerned...


Is it though? I don't think this is clear at all. I know there are those here on these forums that know the material much better than I do and please correct me if I'm forgetting anything, but let's look at what we know from the material.

At a point in college Lacey decided to clean herself up. She falls off of the bandwagon several times and it all comes to a head with her three weeks with Isaac.
After Isaac how many men (other than the MC) has she slept with?
If memory serves the answer is one. Damian (2 depending on how far you took Morty).
Of these how many has she had sex with while sober? That would be 0. (or 1 with Morty)
With both Damien and Morty she did both of those because she had some fucked up idea that doing it would be better for her relationship with the MC. She is not motivated by sex. She is motivated by her relationship with the MC. You are correct that she does not see sex as a big deal and she does not have a problem using it as a tool which is exactly what she is doing the her love experiment. But she also hasn't shown that she wants to go out and sleep around outside of being with the MC.

I accept the fact that it is possible that we could learn that there have been others. We could learn that she has cheated with others that she had sex with while not trying to make her marriage better.
However, at this point we don't any proof to the contrary.
Yea as things are currently the MC isn't yet aligned with the notion of running a porn business, but that is the point, 'yet' see like I also said previously it seem clear their is a process of corruption ongoing with the MC on both the Slut & Punishment paths by Lacey herself, its clear that to some degree its Lacey's desire for her husband to end up more sexually open and flexible. I think that by the time we reach the last Act, which if I heard right might be Act 6, the MC will have ended up corrupted on either Slut & Punishment paths, at which point he'll be open to do that sort of work. Let's be real, with the name of those paths its clear the end goal is for Lacey to turn back into a slut on the Slut Path and the MC accepting that reality. While the end goal for the Punishment Path is more along the lines of her being a 'Sub' and the MC being a 'Dom' if albeit in reality the real power is liable to be in Lacey's hands, she will give the MC control over her sexuality but likely their is going an expectation for him to make use of it on others.

As for the notion Lacey's isn't motivated by sex, really? She cheated pretty eagerly on her husband, it might have been originally to prove a point but she broke every singular rules they established, as it says clearly within the game, even with the drugs it went extremely farther than even the drugs can justify, proving that her satisfaction is clearly of primordial importance to her. With baldy she again pushed the limits, wasn't before her cheating it was established that kissing was something supposedly pretty personal to them, YET she still did it with baldy before the MC could have a say to restrain her, this time completely without the drugs. Also when she says that she'd be willing to fuck anyone the MC tell her, it doesn't come off as something said in hesitation, it comes off again very direct and clearly has unrestrained, which isn't the way someone that would just do it for their partner would talk about it.

Going back to her stupid plan, its not the sort of plan someone come up with which isn't pretty much willing to fuck anyone around that they'd like. Yea she took the drugs, but was it because she feared not enjoying it or because she didn't want to experience the guilt? She said she saw the MCs messages, so she was clearly aware he didn't want her to do it, he begged her, and yet she did it, the drug wasn't to make it easier to have sex with someone else, it was to make it easier to overcome the guilt she felt at doing it against her husband's agreement.

Again the problem wasn't having sex with someone else, that she was eagerly willing to do, it was about doing it without approval by the MC. Oh and when cheated on her husband she wasn't clearly that out of her mind, she was able to identify the guy she was fucking, remember to film it, told him her husband's name, and responded to him, so clearly the ketamine didn't affect her that much, it merely dulled the bad feelings she might have experienced at cheating on her husband, but the sex she was all up for it.

So stop deluding yourself in thinking that she didn't want to have sex with other people, its clear she is a slut at heart and the only reason she stopped being a slut was because of her husband, and she eagerly want to return to this so she has been corrupting him, trying to convince him that its alright for her to be intimate with others so that she can go back to be doing it, so she can get everything, the man that she love and all the slutty sex that she wants. Sure she isn't all too cool to to have to also share him, but that is the inevitable price she discovered she has to pay because she went too far while the MC wasn't up for it and she nearly lost him, so all she did after the cheating was to shift to a slower approach, and letting the MC sleep around so he could feel better.

I wanted to talk about lacey's punishment options: Slut / Punishment / Vanilla.
To me, all the options seem completely idiotic and unviable, so I always chose vanilla not as the best, but as the least idiotic.
Who in their right mind would even suggest such crap as a punishment?
Of course, it’s possible that I’m behind the times and that this is now widely practiced in families, but something tells me that this is simply the logic of a pervert.
Why punishment? Its simple, its Lacey trying to pretend that she want to atone, she figured after cheating on the MC she had to do a few things to keep him, one is let him sleep around, the other is basically trying to go easier at corrupting him to make everything she has done and everything she wants to do more possible while remaining in her marriage, if the MC go vanilla its basically the path where the MC took a hard stance and just tried to avoid everything sexual that deviate from the norm. On the two other paths one is try to hard corrupt the MC into becoming more sexual flexible and open, while the other is taking punishment, in a very sexual manner, to try to appease him and give him the illusion of control, while inducing a slower corruption. Either way Lacey is in control, on those two paths, and she is fully willing to go along with it in the optic of corrupting the MC one way or another. If she has to suffer a bit of violence to achieve it she is fine with it, she suffered worst before, so if it allow her to get what she wants? A bit of pain is a cheap price.
 

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I wanted to talk about lacey's punishment options: Slut / Punishment / Vanilla.
To me, all the options seem completely idiotic and unviable, so I always chose vanilla not as the best, but as the least idiotic.
Who in their right mind would even suggest such crap as a punishment?
Of course, it’s possible that I’m behind the times and that this is now widely practiced in families, but something tells me that this is simply the logic of a pervert.
I reread my post and it dawned on me – All these 'punishments' would be perfect for some kind of roleplay between spouses.

Something like this:
H- "Darling, you're such a naughty girl! Let me spank you."
W- "Oh, Honey, I'll be obedient! Can I suck that gentleman off?"

This seems like a farce to me.

And these supposed 'punishments' don't even begin to correspond to the severity of the offense; they're more like rewards. And the most important thing is, why doesn't MC see this and agree to this idiocy?
 
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