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While I'm not making excuses for Mia, she can be forgiven for at least half of her bad behavior, maybe more, for trying to talk Lacey out of her 'excellent' plan to cure MC with Damien's help.
 
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While I'm not making excuses for Mia, she can be forgiven for at least half of her bad behavior, maybe more, for trying to talk Lacey out of her 'excellent' plan to cure MC with Damien's help.
Heh, that just shows how truly and incredibly fucking stupid it really was, that even Mia had issues with it :ROFLMAO:

(Which is interesting given throughout the entire story she's wanted them to break up).
 
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It seems Patreon voted that dev keep working on this title some more. Still, probably gonne take another month at least to see something new. I may even consider supporting, but I'm not interested in the dev's other projects hence I haven't yet. Need to see how much time this dev takes to develop content updates for beta builds
I am subscribed on Patreon (You can subscribe for as little as $1 which surprised me!!!), and I don't intend to share things in the future because I want people to support this dev, but to give an idea about release schedules, it went like the following

2022-2023 -> Generally 2 months between updates for On Distant Shores. For example, 5 updates were were developed between Sept 2022 and May 2023, a 9 month span
2024 -> Took like a 6 month break, but paused payments during it. Finished On Distant Shore final update
Oct 2024 -> Announced new game and was storyboarding. Obviously, Ch 1 for a game typically takes longer than Ch 2 because you have to build the world
January -> OTMT CH 1 released (3 months after starting)
March -> dev announces L & J, saying they came up with the idea and needed to write it while apologizing for the delay to OTMT Ch 2, so spent a month building it's world instead of working on OTMT. Didn't expect a lot of people to like it due to the NTR elements. Mentions that it'll be easier to make because the only thing rendered is the backgrounds which will allow dev more time to focus on writing.
April -> L & J Act 1 released
May -> built a new PC to help with renders, but had issues. Eventually releases Ch2 of OTMT on the last day of May. Dev claims that they will start work on Act 2 of L & J "Next month" (I don't know know if that means a short break was taken or not since this was posted on May 31)
June 25 -> Posts that they are 80% done with the release
July 21 -> L & J Act 2. Claims that it took longer because they expanded the scope (so maybe it was like 1.5 releases worth of content?) to not end on a cliffhanger. Also changed image formats.
July 24 -> Dev mentions that they are struggling to work on OTMT and L & J at the same time. Opens a poll to see if people want to continue work on OTMT or put it on hiatus for another vignette. Claims that they can update much faster for vignettes so they can bounce back and forth between L&J and the other story quickly
July 26 -> People overwhelming voted for the other vignette, meaning OTMT is put on hold while L & J + another vignette is developed. Opens poll for 3 different ideas for vignettes
July 28 -> Post telling vignette won the poll. Says they are building the world out for it now

With all that being said, it sounds to me like the dev is thinking of alternating between the vignettes each month, so 2 months between releases of L & J. I don't know if the dev is going to do another update to L & J while building out the world of the new vignette (I hope so, but I totally understand if that's not what happens)

If I wanted to speculate where the story was going to be at for the cliffhanger when it was "80% done", then I think it would be either Mia with the Ketamine or the Deepfake video. I feel like it's the deepfake though because the end of this act was "Familiar Voice" confirming that the video was indeed a deepfake
 
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Heh, that just shows how truly and incredibly fucking stupid it really was, that even Mia had issues with it :ROFLMAO:

(Which is interesting given throughout the entire story she's wanted them to break up).
I don't think Mia wanted to break them up during the Damian scene. However, I think the Damian scene is why Mia wanted to break them up after she became actual friends with MC. She says to Lacey "I tried to defend you. I tried to protected you. I couldn't understand why Anna was slowly growing to hate you. But then I look at MC. I see him falling apart at the seams. I even defended you when you went to fuck that Damian fuck head. And I finally realized, you're not good for him..."
 

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I am subscribed on Patreon (You can subscribe for as little as $1!!!), and I don't intend to share things in the future because I want people to support this dev, but to give an idea about release schedules, it went like the following

2022-2023 -> Generally 2 months between updates for On Distant Shores. For example, 5 updates were were developed between Sept 2022 and May 2023, a 9 month span
2024 -> Took like a 6 month break, but paused payments during it. Finished On Distant Shore final update
Oct 2024 -> Announced new game and was storyboarding. Obviously, Ch 1 for a game typically takes longer than Ch 2 because you have to build the world
January -> OTMT CH 1 released (3 months after starting)
March -> dev announces L & J, saying they came up with the idea and needed to write it while apologizing for the delay to OTMT Ch 2, so spent a month building it's world instead of working on OTMT. Didn't expect a lot of people to like it due to the NTR elements. Mentions that it'll be easier to make because the only thing rendered is the backgrounds which will allow dev more time to focus on writing.
April -> L & J Act 1 released
May -> built a new PC to help with renders, but had issues. Eventually releases Ch2 of OTMT on the last day of May. Dev claims that they will start work on Act 2 of L & J "Next month" (I don't know know if that means a short break was taken or not since this was posted on May 31)
June 25 -> Posts that they are 80% done with the release
July 21 -> L & J Act 2. Claims that it took longer because they expanded the scope (so maybe it was like 1.5 releases worth of content?) to not end on a cliffhanger. Also changed image formats.
July 24 -> Dev mentions that they are struggling to work on OTMT and L & J at the same time. Opens a poll to see if people want to continue work on OTMT or put it on hiatus for another vignette. Claims that they can update much faster for vignettes so they can bounce back and forth between L&J and the other story quickly
July 26 -> People overwhelming voted for the other vignette, meaning OTMT is put on hold while L & J + another vignette is developed. Opens poll for 3 different ideas for vignettes
July 28 -> Post telling vignette won the poll. Says they are building the world out for it now

With all that being said, it sounds to me like the dev is thinking of alternating between the vignettes each month, so 2 months between releases of L & J. I don't know if the dev is going to do another update to L & J while building out the world of the new vignette (I hope so, but I totally understand if that's not what happens)

If I wanted to speculate where the story was going to be at for the cliffhanger when it was "80% done", then I think it would be either Mia with the Ketamine or the Deepfake video. I feel like it's the deepfake though because the end of this act was "Familiar Voice" confirming that the video was indeed a deepfake
I wholeheartedly agree that people should support the Prof.
They only get a fraction of the support, that other developers get whose content is nowhere near as engaging.

Then again, the Prof might not be financially motivated and this could just be a creative outlet
 

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Some of the things you say are reasonable and in some case the difference between our thoughts is a matter of semantics.

Growth, to me, or in my culture, is the end product.
You experience things, you have your journey, to achieve growth.
What I see from MC and the Pimp is not growth, it is still stumbling.

Actually in this case I am overtly negative towards MC, since he has to be recognized as a victim through and through.
His anger was more than justified and it was a healing process, he needs to express it, he needs to let it out, he needs to have it validated from the people around him.

Pimp never validates it, she actually dismisses it and his reasons to be that angry with phrases like: "I am sorry your wife enjoyed sex with other men" (this is coming from the person that ruined Lacey's life, since we are talking about accountability and growth).
Which not only misses the mark by a mile, but also tries to diminish his rightful emotions.

Lacey does the same but in a more subtle way, she would ask him to vent and then paint herself as the victim, pushing his compassion buttons that she knows so well.
There is a lot to discuss here, since Lacey is almost unaware of this and takes accountability of it when she understands because she, contrary to MC and the pimp, is growing (unless we get a devolution in act 3).
She does a funny thing tho, she gives MC the idea that is healing should be on a timer: saying things like: well if your anger was only about my past there should be a time limit on how long you can be angry or punish me.
This comes from a person that misses his call for help because she was impaled on a cock.
Some things...cannot be forgiven.

What does this do for MC? He makes him feel like the bad guy etc.
I don't want to go through the whole Dianne discussion, but she is completely right.
The only thing she needs to look at more closely, is the people around MC, as his friend circle is full of enablers, but that is another story.

Saying that he was lucky to have friends with him is weird... they essentially put him through a clockwork orange session with his eyelids pinned, so he had to take it all in.
They didn't protect him, they didn't circle the wagons, they exposed him to a horrible situation while he was suffering a PTSD episode.
I think THAT was the moment where MC was the most alone in all of act 1.

He also wasn't influenced by the Jared incident, we know that MC is not a man of action, in this regard he is weak.
He didn't act with Lacey at the subway station, he didn't act when Lacey came back, acted briefly with the Jared situation (mostly calling in favours), doesn't act with barty (he could have easily confronted him), doesn't act with the pimp.
Simply, MC is a witness.

Besides, healing is not a train, it doesn't go on rails, for some people anger is the right way to achieve healing (Lacey understands this, even if she is craving punishment for herself as well)
Acceptance might not even be in the book here, unless we count the fact that acceptance here could mean that Lacey will never be forgiven. (I would count the abusive pimp here as well but it seems that the author has a limit on making awful people accoutable if they are females).

Talking about the pimp I don't see any sign of growth, I see the same underhanded, abusive, selfish and crass woman we see in act 1 at best and honestly she is actually devolved or simply shown us more of her awfulness.

I see no indication that she is on the right path for growth, she still hangs around the couple, while she should apologize profusely and the leave them be.
She would fit perfectly at the table at Lacey's family reunion.
Maybe the author didn't think of her this way and wanted to create a "grey" character but it failed miserably.
He wanted to create a character with "sass"but he created a crass, offensive and creepy woman.
Oh you took a private picture from my wife phone and used it to make a dildo? HA HA HA HOW FUN
Oh you embarass your friend saying that she wants to give blowjobs? DAMN! MY SIDES!
Oh you mention to everyone that you have pictures of your abused friend taking 15 cocks/hour? THIS IS DAVE CHAPPELLE LEVEL STUFF!
Oh you actually enjoy breaking couples up and you've done it to your classmate too? CALL THE COMEDY CELLAR! WE GOT A STAR OVER HERE!

I have a dirty and pretty dark humor, one of my favourite songs can be roughly translated as "I give blowjobs with my ass" and is sang by a woman (my wife hates me for it), so I don't consider my humor to be super sophisticated or that a woman should not be vulgar (I have friends that do).

Let's face it, the pimp is failed character, she cannot garner any sympathy unless it is extremely forced, has no redeeming qualities, is not fun unless you have a prepubescent sense of humor and has no positive impact towards the people around her.

Thank you for the lenghty writeup, there were some insightful points.
 
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I wholeheartedly agree that people should support the Prof.
They only get a fraction of the support, that other developers get whose content is nowhere near as engaging.

Then again, the Prof might not be financially motivated and this could just be a creative outlet
I am subscribed on Patreon (You can subscribe for as little as $1 which surprised me!!!), and I don't intend to share things in the future because I want people to support this dev, but to give an idea about release schedules, it went like the following
I feel you guys, do you know if there is another way to support him that is not patreon?
 

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I feel you guys, do you know if there is another way to support him that is not patreon?
Not at the moment unfortunately, (unless you count ), hoping they will increase their online presence once they get a larger following.

The good news is, that whether you subscribe for $1 or the max of $18, you get the same content and access, no delayed release per tier or anything like that
 
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The choice path is done.

As usual it will suck in terms of spacing and format, if you want the file DM me.
At some point I want to rework Act 1 to try and set the days and integrate a bit of timeline.
Maybe everything will be moved to a flow chart, who knows.

For now this is what you get:

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Not at the moment unfortunately, (unless you count ), hoping they will increase their online presence once they get a larger following.

The good news is, that whether you subscribe for $1 or the max of $18, you get the same content and access, no delayed release per tier or anything like that
Yeah my problem is not the 1$ or 18$ I could easily give him more if it meant more L&J, it is a matter of platform.
Maybe I'll find a way around it, I'd really like to.
 
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The choice path is done.

As usual it will suck in terms of spacing and format, if you want the file DM me.
At some point I want to rework Act 1 to try and set the days and integrate a bit of timeline.
Maybe everything will be moved to a flow chart, who knows.

For now this is what you get:

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In the second game at king's weekend i remember other question, for example the makeout at cinema or the toothbrush.
 
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In the second game at king's weekend i remember other question, for example the makeout at cinema or the toothbrush.
Those are not choices from MC, I only put events you as a player can influence and their impact / branching.
The makeout at cinema is from Anna and the toothbrush is from Veronica iirc.
lacey has another one about fireworks.

Else I would have to simply copy the full game file :LOL:
 
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Just caugh a minor mistake

24.2) Jealousy date ending

IF NTRS Level = 0
Morty flees the scene, MC and Lacey go home

IF NTRS Level = 1
Morty flees the scene, Lacey waits for MC covered in cum to make him more jealous.
Lacey says that her mental health problems are related to sex.
Lacey realizes her waiting covered in cum backfired, Mc feels grossed out, hurt and confused.
MC asks himself what the fuck he has her do.

IF NTRS Level = 2
Morty flees the scene, Lacey waits for MC covered in cum to make him more jealous.
Lacey says that her mental health problems are related to sex.
Lacey realizes her waiting covered in cum backfired, Mc feels grossed out, hurt and confused.
MC asks himself what the fuck he has her do.

In Netorase Level 1 she waits in bikini whith semen over her tits, in level 2, she waits for MC naked with semen flowing out of her vagina. And has the gall to comment it has backfired :sick: DUH. How many times has he told you, dont let others cum inside you?. Ainss, another win for you Lacey, at this rhythm im gonna call you Marc Marquez, because you are winning all.
 
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The choice path is done.

As usual it will suck in terms of spacing and format, if you want the file DM me.
At some point I want to rework Act 1 to try and set the days and integrate a bit of timeline.
Maybe everything will be moved to a flow chart, who knows.

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I think i remember someone mentioning that the jealousy date can lead to a betrayal tag if you go all the way, can you confirm or deny?
 
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I think i remember someone mentioning that the jealousy date can lead to a betrayal tag if you go all the way, can you confirm or deny?
The betrayal images correspond to the LittleBitch video. Seems to be unrelated as it happens anyway, indepent of the NTS level. Not sure if a tag gets created.

And DeviantFun dont be sad, its just a tiny mistake. Nobody blames you. (Loads shotgun maliciosly):p
 
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I think i remember someone mentioning that the jealousy date can lead to a betrayal tag if you go all the way, can you confirm or deny?
I deny it completely, in fact it was the first thing I checked in the game files when the game came out, so I could use the appropriate save

The betrayal images correspond to the LittleBitch video. Seems to be unrelated as it happens anyway, indepent of the NTS level. Not sure if a tag gets created.

And DeviantFun dont be sad, its just a tiny mistake. Nobody blames you. (Loads shotgun maliciosly):p
It wasn't me that claimed that, I know who did. But ol'deviant aint no snitch.

I can give you a hint: Bastian
 
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I am with you completely, I was focusing on Mia's role here, I do not discount Lacey responsabilities, I spoke often about her in other posts.

Although, think about this, we are talking of a Lacey from the past, not the Lacey of today or even the terminal Lacey.
We are tallking of a secluded and suicidal Lacey that had zero friends.

Suddenly the magic pimp comes along, promises friendship and a solution for her problem (both untrue).
At the beginning, she spends weeks convincing Lacey to do things, ramping it up ever so slightly.
Lacey resists but follows, partly because she is often on K, which makes her compliant, partly because she wants to please her only friend.

Terminal Lacey is another thing, she aquired the taste for sex at the end of first college era, so it became a mix of pleasing her pimp and other factors, this is where stuff like "prom night" happens.

So I agree with all you've said, but it wasn't easy to get Lacey to comply, it took a lot of manipulation at the beginning.
I guess I just see it as a skill issue. Present Lacey is just scary good. Not even just with MC, she is practically playing with her food in the whole group. Only Diane seemed immune, but with their last meeting Lacey seems to have found some buttons even there. I think her interactions with MC about the jealousy thing, have some of the best writing in the game. She uses dialectic to bring him to her preferred viewpoint from the exact opposite side. And the fool thinks he arrived there on his own.

But I will give you freshman Lacey was definitely more unstable. I can see how even Mia's blunt manner could have worked at first. But after her first college era, I'm certain she was using Mia's prodding as an excuse.

If you think about it, Mia was more of an obsessed cuckold than a pimp. I'm picturing her on her cuck chair while Lacey is cock-juggling, eyes wide like a perv with her phone in hand. When she called MC that, I was like it takes one to know one.
 
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