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I know this isn't much, but in the late game, if you trigger Julie's passionate date with an asterisk, there's a 50% chance you can see a shower sex graphic after jogging with her.
As far as that earlier jogging scene goes, I'm not going to promise anything, but there's a chance I may yet go over it and add more shower sex.

Dev ur game so good... But Dev i beg u pls can we change the mc name?
Sorry, changing the name involves much more than you'd think. There are many instances in the game where people don't just say "Flin," they say "Flin-flan man" or "Flinnie," or "FLIIIIINNNNNAAAAHHHHHH" etc.
As a writer, I really like knowing the MC's name. I think custom names close off a lot of natural dialogue options, as you can't reliably play with the name like people do in real life. Most importantly, I need that name-screaming during sex.
I have an idea for a custom name input that would allow you to set like 14 different variations on the name, but it's only an idea, and something I may or may not do for my next game.

On another note, i saw some typos, i am not that kinda guy that it bothers me, but i remember one thing. It´s "key card" not "card key" right? I could be wrong though, english is not my native language.
English is my only language (though your English is great! I'm trying to learn Japanese cause I'm a total weeb), and I've heard both "key card" and "card key" in the U.S.

But looking it up, it does seem that "key card" is 2-3 times more common, and I'm wondering if I felt inclined towards "card key" because that's what they say in the old Pokemon games :ROFLMAO:

Thanks for the kind words!

Sooo.... Has anyone found the sperm cell impregnating an egg cell scene yet? :)
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I know this isn't much, but in the late game, if you trigger Julie's passionate date with an asterisk, there's a 50% chance you can see a shower sex graphic after jogging with her.
As far as that earlier jogging scene goes, I'm not going to promise anything, but there's a chance I may yet go over it and add more shower sex.


Sorry, changing the name involves much more than you'd think. There are many instances in the game where people don't just say "Flin," they say "Flin-flan man" or "Flinnie," or "FLIIIIINNNNNAAAAHHHHHH" etc.
As a writer, I really like knowing the MC's name. I think custom names close off a lot of natural dialogue options, as you can't reliably play with the name like people do in real life. Most importantly, I need that name-screaming during sex.
I have an idea for a custom name input that would allow you to set like 14 different variations on the name, but it's only an idea, and something I may or may not do for my next game.


English is my only language (though your English is great! I'm trying to learn Japanese cause I'm a total weeb), and I've heard both "key card" and "card key" in the U.S.

But looking it up, it does seem that "key card" is 2-3 times more common, and I'm wondering if I felt inclined towards "card key" because that's what they say in the old Pokemon games :ROFLMAO:

Thanks for the kind words!


Allman did!
Yeaaa... Just about everything points to it being with Samantha in this last scene I can't seem to figure out how to unlock. Tried about everything in the last chapter. 1754850974761.png
 

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Yeaaa... Just about everything points to it being with Samantha in this last scene I can't seem to figure out how to unlock. Tried about everything in the last chapter. View attachment 5132278
Daww, that was the one clue I was going to give you: that you should unlock the entire gallery and what remains is your guide. But well done, you've done just that.

Hmm, how do I give an additional clue without making it too obvious?
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EDIT: I'll add a second hint.
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Oh yeah, I suppose I never mentioned here that they re-listed my game on Itch, but they did (they re-listed all of the adult games that were free, so that's why mine got back up).

I've heard that Steam is very strict when it comes to adult games in academic settings. Adult games set in high school are not allowed even if everyone is 18+, and in fact even games set in college can have a hard time getting approved (a little insane to me, but they like to play it very cautious).
I know with my game it's like, the high school setting is such a secondary afterthought that you never even see a school, classroom, schooldesk, nothing, but nonetheless, I think it'd be a lot of trouble for something that I don't even charge money for, haha. I'm not really looking to monetize LLRR beyond the Patreon page.

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As for your final question, I've been working on two massive posts I'm eventually gonna put up that explain in great detail what kind of content my future games are likely to have and how that content compares to LLRR.

One of the posts is titled "What will change and what won't change," while the other is "Story ideas."
I don't want to share these posts until the game is done (or nearly done), but there's a lot I can still say:

Story: I have so many fuckin' ideas, dude. The post I'm working on currently describes 9 different story ideas in detail, and they vary wildly. Some of them are modern, mundane settings like LLRR, while others involve superheroes, D&D fantasy, zombie apocalypse, even vikings (rather, a strapping young viking in a modern setting).
The important thing to me is that they all involve hesitant, lustful cheating like in LLRR, and that cheating always involves the MC. That means the stories are basically all netori, though I could plausibly imagine enjoying a story where you're cheating on your girlfriend with someone who's single.
Ideas are easy, and overrated. Execution is everything. I believe even the most boring premise can have some of the hottest cheating sex scenes, and on the flip side, even the most crazy of these premises can execute a grounded and emotional narrative that helps to deliver the same thing. I believe the vast majority of people who have liked my execution of LLRR would enjoy whatever I make next.

Characters: Similar to LLRR, the characters are by-and-large always going to be decent, monogamously loyal human beings who don't want to cheat and are relatively happy and good-natured when the story begins. This includes the protagonist.
I have one exception in my head that I'm playing with.
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Body type: LLRR basically has two body types - "Girlfriend with slender frame" and "the same thing but with massive boobs," lol. That typical hyper-voluptuous stylized supermodel anime body is always going to be a constant. If you have a girlfriend or a wife, she'll have a much more modest/sane chest size :ROFLMAO: If there are 10 heroines in the story, they'll all have that voluptuous body type, idgaf. Though I am willing to try to pull off the "short stack" body type a little better, I feel as though I failed getting that fully across with Kelly.
As for the male MC (because it matters dammit), I just like the "slender but athletic swimmer's body" kind of build for him. I wouldn't mind improving the sense of muscle definition a bit compared to how Flin's body was, but overall a similar build.

Genre: I'd just go with "softcore hesitant cheating romance." That softcore tone that permeates LLRR is something that'll still be there, even if I add nipples lol. And if I add genitalia (massive, MASSIVE "if") then it'll still be hidden a lot of the time, or potentially white-glow censored (not mosaic censored). Also, if you think I'm ever getting tired of missionary or face-to-face sex, think other thoughts.

I do have one story in mind that I think is more likely than the rest as my next project: you, your best friend, and your best friend's hot girlfriend are starting college, and best friend is going to another state. You and his girlfriend are going to a different state together, so neither of you will know anyone other than each other. Naturally, you should be friends and spend time together, right?
The game's just about growing closer to her.

Obviously a big shift from LLRR because of the focus on only one heroine, but I'd really like my next project to be a much shorter and simpler one while I try out new workflows and ideas. It'd be so wonderful to focus on one character.
I know some people here enjoyed the presence of a girlfriend to cheat on; I'd have to think about it, for this one. The dynamic's a little different. You could plausibly get a girlfriend at the college and this makes your best friend's girlfriend irrationally jealous.
Not sure.

Anyway, sorry for the wall of text, but this is a tiny fraction of the total content in the two posts I'll eventually share.
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Quick question: in the story can you miss a scene? for example if you don't meet the lust stat requirements
 

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Quick question: in the story can you miss a scene? for example if you don't meet the lust stat requirements
Yup.
From what I gather, in the first part of the story (everything before the camp trip). Each of the main girls you cheating with have 6 scene: 3 "regular" scenes, 1 "continuation" scene, 1 car scene, and the "choose to romance" scenes. Each of these scenes can be missed if you don't have the right stats INCLUDING Studying and Band practice (which wasn't much, think I was able to get them with 5 or 6 each. Kelly for Band, Amy for Study, and Julie for combination of the two I think like 3 each).
The scenes with Stella are more like do you have the right cards, but I think her stats also matter. I believe, can't remember if Flin confirmed this or not, but their guilt also plays a part so try to keep their guilt as close to 0 as possible.

A few changes I would love to see before the finale!!
- During camping trip, change it from 3 days to 5 so that you don't have to pick between the 3 girls much like the beach trip.
- During either trip, P-A-I-Z-U-R-I!! Let's see those girls use those massive fun bags!
- During beach trip, a little quickie with Stella would be nice. I feel bad for her every time lol
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date and Romantic Date add a special finisher scene if the accompany stat is high enough.
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date, Romantic Date and Passionate Date add a little flare when the chance of getting caught is 100%. Doesn't have to be a Game Over like getting caught while having sex, but like a frustrated trying to explain what they are doing or one hiding like with Sammy and Flin.
- In general, animations for a few positions/angles that don't have an animation (under view for julie, BJ during camp trip, etc)
- In part 2/3, during sex can we have it where whether there's an (*) by sex determines if it's a daytime scene or nighttime. I've been trying for so long to get the daytime equivalent of certain animations/stills but my RNG luck almost always have it night lol
 
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Yup.
From what I gather, in the first part of the story (everything before the camp trip). Each of the main girls you cheating with have 6 scene: 3 "regular" scenes, 1 "continuation" scene, 1 car scene, and the "choose to romance" scenes. Each of these scenes can be missed if you don't have the right stats INCLUDING Studying and Band practice (which wasn't much, think I was able to get them with 5 or 6 each. Kelly for Band, Amy for Study, and Julie for combination of the two I think like 3 each).
The scenes with Stella are more like do you have the right cards, but I think her stats also matter. I believe, can't remember if Flin confirmed this or not, but their guilt also plays a part so try to keep their guilt as close to 0 as possible.
Correct!
Though the minimum stat requirements to see every scene are as low as 3 (3 Study for Amy, 3 Band for Kelly, and for Julie they just need to add up to 4). For earlier scenes, it's even lower. (EDIT: You are regularly rewarded for going higher than this, though)
This is the code for the scenes in chapter 4, which are the most strict in the game:
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(I used a variable for Julie's event because Flin still stays to watch one movie if you fail the check, so there's overlap with the success version, however I'm not sure I've ever actually seen the failure happen for this specific scene because it's so easy to pass at that point in the game lol)
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And the "choosing to romance" scenes it's more like, there's a random lust check to see if you get the choice, but if [like + lust + love > 100] then you don't need to roll. Guilt plays a roll in any lust check, but strictly speaking, guilt cannot reduce the odds to 0% so there's always a chance, as long as like and lust are both greater than 0.

A few changes I would love to see before the finale!!
- During camping trip, change it from 3 days to 5 so that you don't have to pick between the 3 girls much like the beach trip.
- During either trip, P-A-I-Z-U-R-I!! Let's see those girls use those massive fun bags!
- During beach trip, a little quickie with Stella would be nice. I feel bad for her every time lol
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date and Romantic Date add a special finisher scene if the accompany stat is high enough.
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date, Romantic Date and Passionate Date add a little flare when the chance of getting caught is 100%. Doesn't have to be a Game Over like getting caught while having sex, but like a frustrated trying to explain what they are doing or one hiding like with Sammy and Flin.
- In general, animations for a few positions/angles that don't have an animation (under view for julie, BJ during camp trip, etc)
- In part 2/3, during sex can we have it where whether there's an (*) by sex determines if it's a daytime scene or nighttime. I've been trying for so long to get the daytime equivalent of certain animations/stills but my RNG luck almost always have it night lol
- It would be fun! But I like having a few events that force you to choose, as there is both a mechanic consequence to this (who you have sex with increases love, which will affect your ending options in the final update) and kind of a fun narrative tension that's revealed here (Flin's weaving a tangled web, the more women he sleeps with). The camping event is the most scary one to me, partially due to that tension.

- Paizuri, I just think you need to be able to see the dick for it to really work. But also, I've never been a big paizuri guy, which I imagine is probably a little shocking given how my work clearly shows such a propensity for massive boobs.

- If I didn't have to do the work, I would not have minded a little quickie with Stella! But by the time I was done with everything else, I was so ready to release the update, haha.
The issue at this stage is, I lost most of the Blender beach files during the hard drive failure. Not all of them; one of Amy's was backed up, but I did somehow lose the texture file for the rocks and sand, which is fucking annoying. If the scene was very zoomed-in and focused on the sand, I could potentially re-texture that easily and make something nice. But I'd also need to slot the scene in somewhere clean. Don't wanna do it in front of Amy, that'd be rude :ROFLMAO:

- "Finisher scene," I'm not sure if I know what you mean. Oh, like they make out/have sex after they hide, if finesse is high enough? I could see it, though a big part of the intent with the casual and romantic dates is to show them doing something non-sexual together. I wouldn't mind adding some variations that show more cute interactions, though.

- I actually rather like this idea. I made a "Julie giving a secret handjob to Flin while riding in the car with him while he talks to Stella" commission a long while back and never used it, and it would also serve as a more concrete explanation for why suspicion goes up when you do romantic or passionate dates.

- Love that you mentioned the under view for Julie, assuming you're talking about the new one I just made where the camera is viewing them from up through the "invisible" mattress. Because that one is currently top priority to be animated. I want the darker spots on Julie's butt cheek impressions to expand and contract as she's pushed into the mattress by Flin's thrusts.
The camping blowjob is impossible without rebuilding from scratch, as that Blender file is gone now, sadly. However, I've been strongly considering a different blowjob animation in silhouette form, for a scene that has just been shown as pitch black this entire time: The very very first possible sex scene with Julie, in Chapter 2.

- I do kinda apologize for the "RNG hunt" that can happen in the late game. But over 95% of all the sex imagery can be seen in a guaranteed fashion in some specific event or other. Of the few exceptions that remain, yes, you kinda gotta just get lucky with the random sex scenes. This may get a little better in the final update as I add those images to other guaranteed scenes.
The asterisk (*) shown by a "sex" option only means that you'll get to see 5 random sex images instead of 3. Well, and I think love goes up a little more. Aside from that, it has no bearing on what images you might see, so a regular daytime sex scene is capable of seeing anything an asterisk daytime scene can see (this is only true for the sex options, not the dates).

And if you haven't figured it out, nighttime sex only happens if the "Awareness" stat in the top-right is 0. It's totally random whether or not it'll be 0, but that could help in determining where to save-scum, lol.

Finally, if you have a locked image that just isn't showing up, let me know and I'll check to see what's up. I've worked very hard to eradicate nearly ALL bugs from this game, but the gallery has always been the biggest fucking nightmare area for me, and it's entirely possible some locked images are just not working properly.
(there is one, ONE bug outside the gallery that I know of, and it's where Amy (and maybe Julie?) can have an extra 0.5 lust after one of the scenes somewhere, before the game corrects that and rounds to a whole number. I've tried to fix it several times and it just crops up randomly lol)
 
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Yup.
From what I gather, in the first part of the story (everything before the camp trip). Each of the main girls you cheating with have 6 scene: 3 "regular" scenes, 1 "continuation" scene, 1 car scene, and the "choose to romance" scenes. Each of these scenes can be missed if you don't have the right stats INCLUDING Studying and Band practice (which wasn't much, think I was able to get them with 5 or 6 each. Kelly for Band, Amy for Study, and Julie for combination of the two I think like 3 each).
The scenes with Stella are more like do you have the right cards, but I think her stats also matter. I believe, can't remember if Flin confirmed this or not, but their guilt also plays a part so try to keep their guilt as close to 0 as possible.

A few changes I would love to see before the finale!!
- During camping trip, change it from 3 days to 5 so that you don't have to pick between the 3 girls much like the beach trip.
- During either trip, P-A-I-Z-U-R-I!! Let's see those girls use those massive fun bags!
- During beach trip, a little quickie with Stella would be nice. I feel bad for her every time lol
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date and Romantic Date add a special finisher scene if the accompany stat is high enough.
- In part 2/3, during Cautious Date, Romantic Date and Passionate Date add a little flare when the chance of getting caught is 100%. Doesn't have to be a Game Over like getting caught while having sex, but like a frustrated trying to explain what they are doing or one hiding like with Sammy and Flin.
- In general, animations for a few positions/angles that don't have an animation (under view for julie, BJ during camp trip, etc)
- In part 2/3, during sex can we have it where whether there's an (*) by sex determines if it's a daytime scene or nighttime. I've been trying for so long to get the daytime equivalent of certain animations/stills but my RNG luck almost always have it night lol
I see, thank you, I'm using URM to see if I'm missing some scenes and there is one with Julie at the beginning which says simply "lust check==true" and its on false, so I wouldn't normally get the sex scene, its literally during the second time I met with Julie and even setting lust to 30 it still fails.
So I was wondering if it must fail since I'm at the beginning and succeding would mean a complete sex scene after 5 minutes of playing.
 

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I see, thank you, I'm using URM to see if I'm missing some scenes and there is one with Julie at the beginning which says simply "lust check==true" and its on false, so I wouldn't normally get the sex scene, its literally during the second time I met with Julie and even setting lust to 30 it still fails.
So I was wondering if it must fail since I'm at the beginning and succeding would mean a complete sex scene after 5 minutes of playing.
After you complete the game once, it's a lot easier to get those early scenes in NG+ mode.
But if you want to pass it guaranteed, you'd need her like and lust to both be set to 100 and her guilt to 0.
 
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You are one of very few game developers who thematizes a male MC cheating on his girlfriend with a seductive girl without automatically going into polyamory or harem, instead emphasizing the cheating, the mens guilt, the girlfriends obliviousness and the seductress, well, seductiveness.

In case you are interested for hentai material for curiosity or even inspiration, hit me up, I have collected over 200 works, and commissioned/bought plenty of them.
Here are just a few that take focus on several levels of cheating, the cucked girlfriend and the seduction without too fast rushing to plain sex, often showing the psychological or social effects:
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You are one of very few game developers who thematizes a male MC cheating on his girlfriend with a seductive girl without automatically going into polyamory or harem, instead emphasizing the cheating, the mens guilt, the girlfriends obliviousness and the seductress, well, seductiveness.

In case you are interested for hentai material for curiosity or even inspiration, hit me up, I have collected over 200 works, and commissioned/bought plenty of them.
Here are just a few that take focus on several levels of cheating, the cucked girlfriend and the seduction without too fast rushing to plain sex, often showing the psychological or social effects:
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how can I see these? The site aint loading, its just a white page
 

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A fair question, and you can find a more in-depth answer if you dig through this thread a bit.

The short answer is simply that a poorly done depiction of a nipple bothers me a lot more than the absence of one, so I went with the easier option.

But this is easily far and away the most common complaint/question I've received on this project, so next game will probably show nipples - if I can get them looking good enough.

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That reminds me, I don't think the f95zone crowd ever saw my hilarious April Fool's joke:

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My patrons had a lot to say about that one :ROFLMAO:
they were good sports about it though
Hmmmm. The more I look at it the more I love it...
 
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holy, Samantha's storyline is one of the best ive seen.
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please keep doing what you doing right now, such a special experience, and the dialogues? *chief kiss* damn...

with the next update will be final, can we get pregnancy/marriage? (if possible)
From what I remember that has been previously discussed, there are going to be quite a few endings. One, loyal to girlfriend and no cheating. One, still with girlfriend but cheating (this one has variants depending who and how many you are cheating with, wich depends on love points). Then, one ending where you leave your girlfriend with each of the girls (don't know if Samantha is included here). Then, a harem ending (variants depending on members, it can include the girlfriend, don't know if it can include Samantha). I think marriage is planned in some of the endings. Pregnancy I am sure it is going to be mentioned, but I am not sure if it is going to be shown in images.
 
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holy, Samantha's storyline is one of the best ive seen.
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please keep doing what you doing right now, such a special experience, and the dialogues? *chief kiss* damn...

with the next update will be final, can we get pregnancy/marriage? (if possible)
Yep, and yep!

EDIT: I realize in retrospect it sounds like I was saying "yep" to the compliments like a cocky bastard, so I just also wanted to say: Thanks for the kind words! Lol

From what I remember that has been previously discussed, there are going to be quite a few endings. One, loyal to girlfriend and no cheating. One, still with girlfriend but cheating (this one has variants depending who and how many you are cheating with, wich depends on love points). Then, one ending where you leave your girlfriend with each of the girls (don't know if Samantha is included here). Then, a harem ending (variants depending on members, it can include the girlfriend, don't know if it can include Samantha). I think marriage is planned in some of the endings. Pregnancy I am sure it is going to be mentioned, but I am not sure if it is going to be shown in images.
All of this is correct.
Some clarification:

There are 8 endings, the way I'm grouping them.

1. Stella Loyal Ending
2. Stella Cheating Ending
3. Amy
4. Kelly
5. Julie
6. Samantha
7. Harem without Stella
8. Harem with Stella

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