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Now, having said that; I started off fencing off my little porn game side-project from the where I worked. About 6 weeks ago one of the owners of the company approached me, and mentioned that (given CORVID's making a mess of our industry)... how would I feel about making porn. So I confessed to my side-project.
Scary, was what it was. Nearly ended up getting fired :)
As soon as you mentioned your in the game industry I got worried. Standard contracts usually have a non-compete clause in them which you would most likely be violating.

I'm glad it worked out though. I guess having someone with experience and willingness to go their venture won out in the end. Still while I don't know any details it may still be grounds for terminations for things are going from bad to worse.
 
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As soon as you mentioned your in the game industry I got worried. Standard contracts usually have a non-compete clause in them which you would most likely be violating.

I'm glad it worked out though. I guess having someone with experience and willingness to go their venture won out in the end. Still while I don't know any details it may still be grounds for terminations for things are going from bad to worse.
Yeah, I spent a while thinking about it. In theory I could have smuggled the code/lessons into the company over time. But it felt stupid, better to 'fess up and be done with it, and at least at that point they'll listen when I say "no, unless you're committed to NTR, don't go down that route" :)
 

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Yeah, I spent a while thinking about it. In theory I could have smuggled the code/lessons into the company over time. But it felt stupid, better to 'fess up and be done with it, and at least at that point they'll listen when I say "no, unless you're committed to NTR, don't go down that route" :)
Funny thing is in my opinion its the totally non-porn poker game as a stand alone app for mobiles that might be worth a fortune . Sounds like your owners might be getting desperate , there is a lot of free porn out there .

At the moment its good to have the security of a full time job and more importantly the cash . Keep all rights to LoM to yourself if I were you , just in case .
 
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I'm only one person, and this is still a side-job (I work as a game programmer for a living). So, 30 more sex scenes with all of the girls would... somewhat impact the main story :)
I'm most interested in Chloe, Bella, and Emily at this point. There are currently only three scenes with Chloe and Bella came into the picture mid-game so she could use some love.

With Katie, I wish you would add some more dueling events with sex bets. This would be fun and lighthearted. It really fits into Katie's personality well. Katie is very competitive and sexually confident. Katie also perfectly fits the mold of "friends with benefits."

With Molly, I wish there were one or two additional events where the player gives in to her sexual forwardness and desires. I would make them optional events.

Keep up the great work!
 
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so are we past the dragon yet? thats the last update i played lol
 

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Art/Design/Writing has an actual team this time :)
TBH, I think you have all of that covered damn well in LoM on your own. Aside perhaps from art, just because higher-res eye-candy is always better, and animations can always be smoother and/or include more frames and transitions.

Surprised anybody branching out into porn would even consider firing an employee doing that on their own time even for a moment. Especially somebody with such a clearly established experience (and success, even if not financial) in it, but then again, people be people. NCCs have been questionable even way back when I did that kind of work, and I actually know somebody who racked in a nice settlement when his company sued him for breach of their NCC. He was working for them on an RTS, he made a turn-based strategy game in his own time, despite being in "state enforces NCC" jurisdiction the trial was going his way so hard he pretty much scored early retirement in the end (predatory business practices, heh). Of course <standard disclaimer about this not being legal advice etc>. Also, a lot of time has passed since so maybe things are different nowadays.
Funny thing is in my opinion its the totally non-porn poker game as a stand alone app for mobiles that might be worth a fortune .
For mobile, probably better to go with porn Katie "match-3" version of it ;)

Though, if this was my decision, I'd go with some kind of "porn manager" game relying on real life timers, with multiple microtransactions involved to unlock the "best" parts that otherwise would require hideous amount of grind to achieve. Impulse purchases are, as far as I'm aware from all my reading, the main driving force behind MTS purchases, and, sadly, this part of the market is already worth more then actual PC game sales, so...
Sounds like your owners might be getting desperate , there is a lot of free porn out there .
Most people underestimate how huge of a business porn industry is.

Though whether or not you can dig into that piece of the pie with your own product is another matter. But I'd say that things like Wild Life or Subverse prove there's a lot of genuine interest to push those things into mainstream, and presumably enough people to actually legit pay for such games, too. One reason I've been keeping a close eye at Subverse, it's a fantastic case study.
 
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TBH, I think you have all of that covered damn well in LoM on your own. Aside perhaps from art, just because higher-res eye-candy is always better, and animations can always be smoother and/or include more frames and transitions.

Surprised anybody branching out into porn would even consider firing an employee doing that on their own time even for a moment. Especially somebody with such a clearly established experience (and success, even if not financial) in it, but then again, people be people. NCCs have been questionable even way back when I did that kind of work, and I actually know somebody who racked in a nice settlement when his company sued him for breach of their NCC. He was working for them on an RTS, he made a turn-based strategy game in his own time, despite being in "state enforces NCC" jurisdiction the trial was going his way so hard he pretty much scored early retirement in the end (predatory business practices, heh). Of course <standard disclaimer about this not being legal advice etc>. Also, a lot of time has passed since so maybe things are different nowadays.
For mobile, probably better to go with porn Katie "match-3" version of it ;)

Though, if this was my decision, I'd go with some kind of "porn manager" game relying on real life timers, with multiple microtransactions involved to unlock the "best" parts that otherwise would require hideous amount of grind to achieve. Impulse purchases are, as far as I'm aware from all my reading, the main driving force behind MTS purchases, and, sadly, this part of the market is already worth more then actual PC game sales, so...
Most people underestimate how huge of a business porn industry is.

Though whether or not you can dig into that piece of the pie with your own product is another matter. But I'd say that things like Wild Life or Subverse prove there's a lot of genuine interest to push those things into mainstream, and presumably enough people to actually legit pay for such games, too. One reason I've been keeping a close eye at Subverse, it's a fantastic case study.
The reason I suggested a non-porn poker game is from experience of observing commuters on hour plus train journeys playing this sort of game , something addictive that you cant put down . Of course you could always produce two versions sold through different channels .

If you are in the UK ..... Employers are very unlikely to actually sack you unless its a large company and something clearly criminal . Employment tribunals can be messy .
 

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That's strange (and sad, given the work I put into making a new scene for that room). I'll see what is going on.
Managed to finish the game going back to older saves. For some reason the second "studio" e-mail from Molly never triggered in my first one. Also got the two costume Chloe scenes I missed by not realizing going to shower at night (without doing anything else) was a trigger requirement, so yay!

Unfortunally, Jenny somehow got bugged hard. I did her second black rose scene, did Olivia's CM scene (and kept visiting her), but never had Jenny progression kick in. I assume next was her proselytizing trigger from Olivia, but that never happend :(

As much as I appreciate the Memories gallery, I do wish it followed the more conventional implementation with "grayed/blurred out" hints at all potential unlockables. It's rather easy to miss side scenes unless following a walkthrough/wiki, since the trigger conditions can be so specific. And that's really the only reason, because at least the way it currently things are coded we get more renders than just the lewds, and they certainly are worth a second look over.

All in all, though, LoM quickly landed on the top of my "favorite played" list. Now I'm sitting here, suffering from withdrawal shakes on "next Dresden book" scale. "Update when?" ;)
The reason I suggested a non-porn poker game is from experience of observing commuters on hour plus train journeys playing this sort of game , something addictive that you cant put down . Of course you could always produce two versions sold through different channels.
To be perfectly honest, my experience with the mobile market is based solely on word of mouth. Though it includes somebody who made a profession out of successfully milking that one for all it's worth, so I assume at least they know what they are talking about :)

If you are in the UK ..... Employers are very unlikely to actually sack you unless its a large company and something clearly criminal . Employment tribunals can be messy .
Meanwhile, in the good ole USofA, our "right to work" laws and general lassitude toward labor violations mean you can get fired on the spot for refusing to do something outright illegal, and often having little chance of even taking it to court or addressed by the supposed oversight parts of the gub'mint. The stories I could tell, would wreck your mind and chill your bones... heh.

I now have an unhealthy obsession with Bella.
In between "slim freckled redhead" and Bella's personality, I ended up finding her even more likeable than Katie, and that's already saying a lot. Though I'll freely admit as "perfect" as Emily is, it's hard to dethrone her from numbah 1 spot for me. Molly has really grown on me once she found a god, too.

Then there's Jenny, who I hope down the line will get scenes even more fitting her theme song. I usually play with my own music on, but sure am glad to not do this with LoM. Dem tracks!

Droid sure knows how to make likeable and distinctive characters. Really hope for more interaction scenes between all of them, and not just in MC's bedroom. If anything, could do with some lewds without Mr. ProtoGodling being involved at all down the line, as far as I'm concerned. Mostly because MC's presence (and focus) often curtails interaction potential between the others, and the girls are pretty damn deserving the spotlight. Poor Damien, though! Hope he ends up revealing he's gay and in stable relationship with Katie's brother or something >.<
 

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In between "slim freckled redhead" and Bella's personality, I ended up finding her even more likeable than Katie, and that's already saying a lot. Though I'll freely admit as "perfect" as Emily is, it's hard to dethrone her from numbah 1 spot for me. Molly has really grown on me once she found a god, too.

Then there's Jenny, who I hope down the line will get scenes even more fitting her theme song. I usually play with my own music on, but sure am glad to not do this with LoM. Dem tracks!
I'm currently in the middle of my first playthrough and i already developed a condition. Let's see how many more i can manage by the end of this. I mean redhead freckled she wolf, some of us are susceptible to that. What are you trying to do here Droid ?
 

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Droid sure knows how to make likeable and distinctive characters. Really hope for more interaction scenes between all of them, and not just in MC's bedroom. If anything, could do with some lewds without Mr. ProtoGodling being involved at all down the line, as far as I'm concerned. Mostly because MC's presence (and focus) often curtails interaction potential between the others, and the girls are pretty damn deserving the spotlight. Poor Damien, though! Hope he ends up revealing he's gay and in stable relationship with Katie's brother or something >.<
I'm just waiting for Katie to smash a bottle over someones head , preferably the MC's when he is being an idiot !
 

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Just completed a playthrough of the latest version , found no major bugs apart from my usual gripe that the gems screen could do with some work , apart from that , only some minor bits .

Got special ingredients very early , week 3 . This has its own problems as low CHR at this point mean events fail . Also run out of bouncer events ( as reported by JessicaJones )

Rest cosmetic but important for commercial release ( quality, quality, quality )

Typo after first sword practice with emily
"I shouid make sure I practice Swordf ighting at the Glade before our date on Friday"
Space after f in fighting should be before

Katie/Bella in gym , Katies first image has her in armour ???
Lake day 59 , Dylan in armour ????
Sword training day 71 Emily starts in armour then is suddenly in jeans
Just after marriage day 78 , Love of Magic screen appears for a while ( leftover from when this was game end ? )
Glade day 96 Katies clothing changes
Some scenes without music at Peveril

Really enjoyed this playthough , game just seems to get better and better
 
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Just completed a playthrough of the latest version , found no major bugs apart from my usual gripe that the gems screen could do with some work , apart from that , only some minor bits .

Got special ingredients very early , week 3 . This has its own problems as low CHR at this point mean events fail . Also run out of bouncer events ( as reported by JessicaJones )

Rest cosmetic but important for commercial release ( quality, quality, quality )

Typo after first sword practice with emily
"I shouid make sure I practice Swordf ighting at the Glade before our date on Friday"
Space after f in fighting should be before

Katie/Bella in gym , Katies first image has her in armour ???
Lake day 59 , Dylan in armour ????
Sword training day 71 Emily starts in armour then is suddenly in jeans
Just after marriage day 78 , Love of Magic screen appears for a while ( leftover from when this was game end ? )
Glade day 96 Katies clothing changes
Some scenes without music at Peveril

Really enjoyed this playthough , game just seems to get better and better

Some scenes without music at Peveril?

As for video, yeah, it was the old video. Ended up redoing that a couple of days ago, it's in the latest build. Fixes fireflies in Emily's render, removes the logo and adds some particles to the scene
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I'm currently in the middle of my first playthrough and i already developed a condition. Let's see how many more i can manage by the end of this. I mean redhead freckled she wolf, some of us are susceptible to that. What are you trying to do here Droid ?
Trying to Sarah us with his deliciously addictive digital magic, obviously >.>
I'm just waiting for Katie to smash a bottle over someones head , preferably the MC's when he is being an idiot !
She does come off pretty laid back for all her fiery banter, doesn't she? <3

Also, wanted to drop a screenie I took just because every time I glance at it sitting on my desktop, I get girly giggles. Dat writin'! Booker absolutely deserves a spot on the <teamname>.
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