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changing a save file is for patreons only, what a pitty i will skip this game

Good luck with this, game
 
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I have got bug after introduction in the bar, i cannot interact with character (chole) and cannot skip time either. I have attached the save and hope you solve the issue thanks for your efforts
 
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changing a save file is for patreons only, what a pitty i will skip this game

Good luck with this, game
SERIOUSLY???? You want to rag on a solo Dev, because he doesn’t want to take time out of his 14 hour day to specially service you, who are getting the fruit of his labor for FREE? This is one of the hardest working Devs I have ever seen, are you kidding me! I’d rather have him focus on the game. (breathing finally slows down, face returns to normal color). Ok guys, I’m okay now (pant pant). LMFAO
 

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SERIOUSLY???? You want to rag on a solo Dev, because he doesn’t want to take time out of his 14 hour day to specially service you, who are getting the fruit of his labor for FREE? This is one of the hardest working Devs I have ever seen, are you kidding me! I’d rather have him focus on the game. (breathing finally slows down, face returns to normal color). Ok guys, I’m okay now (pant pant). LMFAO
Lol. Feel you. Nicest and most helpful dev I've had the pleasure of talking to.
 

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God you don't half like to forshadow, do you? The music in the coffee shop for Jenny and the fact that both books involved in Molly's bookshop scene have themes that apply to her arc are testaments to why your writing is some of my favourite in the industry (my bias for contemporary fantasy aside). Can't wait for act 3 and any other acts that come after.
 

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changing a save file is for patreons only, what a pitty i will skip this game

Good luck with this, game
Wait what? Where did that come from?

There's nothing like that tied to patreon in any way, shape or form. I'm trying hard to be ethical about patreon, which is also why there's nothing like progressive unlocks or other things happening. The game is available, for free, the moment it's done, for everyone. Regardless of whether they're patreons or not.

Secondly, the debug tool is live in every build; press ctrl+J, you get access to the ingame debug menu, where you can play with flags and values. Edit your stats, change your cash, etc. Why would I want to tie that to patreon?
 

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I have got bug after introduction in the bar, i cannot interact with character (chole) and cannot skip time either. I have attached the save and hope you solve the issue thanks for your efforts
Thanks for the bug report. I'll have a look. Just to be sure; this is PC + 0.2.10a?

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Okay, this is strange. I grab your save, load it up. Chloe pops up. I click on her, and story continues. So the savegame is fine.

Could you get me the console log as well? It'll be in the same folder as the savegames.
 
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God you don't half like to forshadow, do you? The music in the coffee shop for Jenny and the fact that both books involved in Molly's bookshop scene have themes that apply to her arc are testaments to why your writing is some of my favourite in the industry (my bias for contemporary fantasy aside). Can't wait for act 3 and any other acts that come after.
Yeah, in general I love foreshadowing. You see it all over the place. Act III is heavily foreshadowed, going back to day 2, as is the nature of MC's dad. One example is the shower scene on day one, where (if you can bring yourself to chose the path that doesn't involve mum), you can see the various romance options in the game described. Chloe asks you which girl in the fake Landlady & Flatmate game you like the most; you get a variety of options.

I always jerk off to the cute young flatmate. She's so adorable and innocent. -> Emily
I'm all about that tomboy best friend. She's always so crazy and fun. -> Katie
I usually try for the ice princess. There's something so satisfying, when she stops being a bitch and falls in love with me. -> Molly
I usually go for the sex-beast. There's this girl that's into the kinkiest stuff. -> Jenny
etc.

None of that has any impact on the gameplay; it's not as if you close off avenues of romance if you pick the wrong option. It's just a kind of group portrait.

Apart from that, the music in Starcucks isn't for Molly, it's for Jenny (the barrista). You need to find a perfect black rose in Elsewhere to continue that timeline.
 

Phoeniix

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Wait what? Where did that come from?

There's nothing like that tied to patreon in any way, shape or form. I'm trying hard to be ethical about patreon, which is also why there's nothing like progressive unlocks or other things happening. The game is available, for free, the moment it's done, for everyone. Regardless of whether they're patreons or not.

Secondly, the debug tool is live in every build; press ctrl+J, you get access to the ingame debug menu, where you can play with flags and values. Edit your stats, change your cash, etc. Why would I want to tie that to patreon?
That is why I face palmed him, I kind of wanted to just say “well he doesn’t need you anyway...” At the same time I don’t wanna drive anybody away. I want people to appreciate who you are and what you do! I agree with SapphireBlaze, your writing sets you apart. As I’ve said before have you considered writing an actual novel? You have such a developed world here and you’ve done so much research I know I would buy it!
 

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That is why I face palmed him, I kind of wanted to just say “well he doesn’t need you anyway...” At the same time I don’t wanna drive anybody away. I want people to appreciate who you are and what you do! I agree with SapphireBlaze, your writing sets you apart. As I’ve said before have you considered writing an actual novel? You have such a developed world here and you’ve done so much research I know I would buy it!
Nah, I just want everyone to enjoy the game, I was just confused where that came from :) Just for the record, if you like the game, not because that gets you early access, or save game edits or anything like that. There'll be a monthly content poll, I might do some patreon only wallpapers or non-game content, and there's an option to help design a side-character or Elsewhere side-story on the high tiers, but all of it is designed to be about supporting the game because you enjoy it, not because it's a form of buying the game.

There's a couple of reasons for that, but mostly it's that a lot of people will see the patreon through F95Zone or similar places. To them, things like the staggered releases ("version 0.3 is now available now for $20 patreons, and version 0.2 is available for $10 patreons, version 0.1 is free!") is a polite fiction. You know quite well that version 0.3 will be released here, across multiple mirrors, before your coffee has time to get cold. But for anyone who supported the patreon without knowing about this place, they do actually believe that stuff. And they'll be justifiably pissed if google one day tells them I've been posting the build here on F95, while telling someone who actually supported me that they'd need to wait 2 weeks. That seems like genuinely bad karma.
 

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I'm completely stumped. Game has never progressed past meeting Nimue for me. After the conversation with her I'm just left alone in the glade. I can walk between there and the door but I can't do anything else. Can someone help?
 

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I'm completely stumped. Game has never progressed past meeting Nimue for me. After the conversation with her I'm just left alone in the glade. I can walk between there and the door but I can't do anything else. Can someone help?
That's weird. There should be a portal icon in to top left corner, leading back to the basement.
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Did you get to the end of Act I with the new build, or is it an old savegame? (It should work either way, but just in case, it'll help me debug it).

It should also post a formal 'end of act I' savegame once you complete that story-segment. Did you get that?
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Apart from that, just post me the savegame, I'll have a look.
 
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I'm completely stumped. Game has never progressed past meeting Nimue for me. After the conversation with her I'm just left alone in the glade. I can walk between there and the door but I can't do anything else. Can someone help?
You should press the "portal" icon (on the left side?). That should bring you back to the basement.
 

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I mean I did write the words "For Jenny" to imply that the music comment was about Jenny and her obvious interest in the BDSM book but thanks still for the hint about the rose, had no clue where to get that the best idea I had was the search engine. I didn't experiment much with the elsewhere in my first playthrough of this update and in my second I was finding nothing for any of the treasures.
Also is it intentional that Chloe's joker ability seems to almost always replace the card I've put down in preparation for a higher hand ruining it in exchange for a one or two pair? I exaggerate, it could have been supremely crap luck that it happened to pick them each time but still it would be nice if Chloe's ability only affected the hand of cards rather than ones placed on the board before confirming
 

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I mean I did write the words "For Jenny" to imply that the music comment was about Jenny and her obvious interest in the BDSM book but thanks still for the hint about the rose, had no clue where to get that the best idea I had was the search engine. I didn't experiment much with the elsewhere in my first playthrough of this update and in my second I was finding nothing for any of the treasures.
Also is it intentional that Chloe's joker ability seems to almost always replace the card I've put down in preparation for a higher hand ruining it in exchange for a one or two pair? I exaggerate, it could have been supremely crap luck that it happened to pick them each time but still it would be nice if Chloe's ability only affected the hand of cards rather than ones placed on the board before confirming
Oh, sorry.. I read that as Molly :) Not enough coffee yet.

The rose has a 20% drop probability on treasure right now. I'm tweaking that up to 50%, as long as you don't have a rose already.

As for the joker... Actually, I first had it like that. But then I kept thinking back to Emily's comments about the gifts of Sorceresses having sharp edges, and it just fit. Of course sorcery is powerful. Of course it occasionally destroys your carefully laid plans. That is the nature of it.

There's actually a raft of sorcery powers set up already, I just need to unlock them
- Molly tier 1 : Replace your entire hand with jokers, in return for a temporary negative buff
- Chloe tier 1 : Replace a card in your hand with a joker
- Chloe tier 2 : Replace the card in the center with a joker

(unassigned, I'm thinking Akane, who's a Seer, not a Sorceress. It feels right that her powers would be of a different nature than the sorceresses)
- Sort the cards in the inside 9 by value (increasing or decreasing)
- Sort the cards in the inside 9 by suit
Both of those will help you a lot (especially for things like flush and straight). But they'll also potentially help the enemy.

Apart from that, I'm still working out what the close combat specialists do. At the moment i lead towards Bella being defensive (a passive ability that prevents X% of damage from getting through, and a secondary ability that will block the next damage you were supposed to receive), while making Kitsune offensive (deal direct damage, or screw with the enemy's turn or his hand).

Each of the characters will have their basic ability, together with 2 additional upgrades that flow from story. The only one that's implemented for yet is Katie. If you go to the Quartermaster, and ask for a Fire Gem, you have the option of buying a special gem for a friend; once he finds it's for Katie, he'll offer to sell you a Fire9 (a True Flawless gem, so the highest tier in the game). Sadly you don't get to use it, but you do get to give it to Katie (and she has a nice reward for you), but it also gives her a substantial boost, where once per run she can trigger a Fire9 spell (200 damage + 100 residual fire damage). I need to tweak that, because right now even a Minotaur Lord gets singed in rounds that way :)

Each of the other characters will eventually get a similar moment; the time when they learn a new spell, or upgrade an existing one, based on either a side-quest, a purchase or a story moment.
 
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That reminds me, in that guide post you mentioned the library and the quartermaster? Are they implemented? Do I have to restart my save to access them. Because I'm not finding them otherwise.
 

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That reminds me, in that guide post you mentioned the library and the quartermaster? Are they implemented? Do I have to restart my save to access them. Because I'm not finding them otherwise.
The library should unlock from your evoker lecture Day 12. The private library unlocks by purchasing a gem (anything except the flawless one) from the Quartermaster, and going back after your 2nd date with Emily (the scrying one).
 
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That sounds like they should be accessible from the university but all I have is the entrance, lecture theatre, ritual room, and offices. I think my save is actually bugged.

Edit: Jenny's plot isn't continuing past buying the vibe and coming up with the plan for it. I'm gonna start a fresh save.
 
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That sounds like they should be accessible from the university but all I have is the entrance, lecture theatre, ritual room, and offices. I think my save is actually bugged.

Edit: Jenny's plot isn't continuing past buying the vibe and coming up with the plan for it. I'm gonna start a fresh save.
Jenny's progression:
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