HTML Love & Vice [R15] [MakinWaves]

[MakinWaves]

I gave this a go a while ago exclusively for the incest content, and while I enjoyed it, it felt a little bare (probably because I was ignoring a very large portion of the content and fast tracking specific events). However, after revisiting it and actually branching out into some of the other content, this is quite the under appreciated gem. I very much enjoyed the Atonia content, in fact, I could recommend the game exclusively for her branch, as well as the Lydia content. Some of the writing is actually surprisingly smart and well written.

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed Atonia as I figured she wasn't all that popular.

 

[bigguy_foryou]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed Atonia as I figured she wasn't all that popular.

That would be quite surprising to me. She is, to me, the best of the bunch, and the only girl for which I chose the love route. It's possible that some nostalgia for Madison Ivy scenes downloaded through LimeWire 20 years ago is causing some bias though...

 

[mememeandmyself]

Thanks! Glad you enjoyed Atonia as I figured she wasn't all that popular.

Your joking, wright? Love that character.

 

[Senor Smut]

Just checking, but knocking Fiona up will eventually be on the program, right?

(Please say yes)

 

[MakinWaves]

That would be quite surprising to me. She is, to me, the best of the bunch, and the only girl for which I chose the love route. It's possible that some nostalgia for Madison Ivy scenes downloaded through LimeWire 20 years ago is causing some bias though...

Your joking, wright? Love that character.

Ah well, guess I was wrong then!

Just checking, but knocking Fiona up will eventually be on the program, right?

(Please say yes)

You can already as of the last release.

 

[Senor Smut]

You can already as of the last release.

How did I miss that???

 

[cromon752]

Atonia = Best Girl. They're all great, but Miss 'I'm going to make you a king, I'm going to have your babies, and you can feel free to feel however you want about that but it's going to happen regardless' is pure perfection.

 

[Men&Wo]

After the event with Mel "Story: Private Show" a black screen appears, are there any ways to get around the bug?

 

[MakinWaves]

After the event with Mel "Story: Private Show" a black screen appears, are there any ways to get around the bug?

Install the bugfix patch.

 

[Houselover]

Hey MW, great work as always on the update, more Jen content is always worth waiting for. If I were to be critical of one thing it would be the 22:00 sex scene points rewards. I dunno how much deeper you plan to make this section of content but the fact that you can't get Jen to climax before you is a little vexing. I know you can continue ad infinitum but if we're supposed to be a superstud and she is bubbling sexpot I would have liked to have the option to have her climax first. Maybe add +25 on to her score per position so this can happen? I'm guessing it's first to 750.

I was gonna report a couple of exploits but Sancho got in ahead of me (and does a much better job of it to be fair). I do have one other bug not reported yet which is that the White Sheer clothing event in the living room at 19:00 onwards doesn't work properly, it only gives a few lines of dialogue. Also I'm not sure it's a bug/exploit but once you take control of the finances you can just repeat the "she has a request" event once every hour from 19:00 to 21:00 to quickly increase those stats.

Finally if I might say a few things about energy to people struggling with that (which honestly befuddles me as I'm going to bed with 30-60 energy most nights, especially during the late game).

- You get +70 energy when you sleep.
- You can eat at 7:00-7:30, 13:00-13:30 (on Fridays and weekends until Jen gets the modeling job) and at 17:00-17:30.
- You don't have to waste energy on an event during meal times, just click to sit and wait if you are low on energy or you can skip this entirely by going to the kitchen at half past.
- You'll get +30 energy after each meal.
- If you need a quick injection you can get +20 energy by having a drink in the kitchen at any point when Jen isn't there.
- Energy carries over to the next day so don't think you have to use your entire surplus each day. If you go to bed with 20 energy you'll wake up with 90.
- If people continue to struggle then along with the idea for increasing energy via fitness it might be worthwhile to add a vending machine or something at each workplace for a second energy drink for $10 or something during the early game but that's up to MW and personally I don't think its necessary, frankly the fact that you are charged no energy for working is already a win.

Ultimately don't try to run all the events every day, it's just not necessary. Focus on the events that increase clothing levels at meal times and during yoga at 14:10 on Fridays and weekends (and some weekdays while Jen is a waitress), pay the rent directly to her in the living room at 19:00 instead of leaving it in the kitchen for extra points and clean your room/do the garden for favour stars. I've posted before about powering through Monday-Thursday working (at the office but can also be done on the Jason route) and doing events at weekends to gather points. This strategy will also net you more money for gifts which offer +50 increases instead of +10 or +15. I'd even recommend not running any events at all for the first 2 in-game weeks until you've been promoted at the office or reach the strip club just cause every time you work thereafter you are making much more money and you'll never be caught short for rent or clothing. I should also state again that the job choice on day 1 isn't reversable and while you'll eventually be doing both that key choice at the start can't be changed.

Ta.

Thanks for this information Wisthep, very helpful I was getting very frustrated with the energy management portion of the game but overall enjoying it. (Which I can't say about most other HTML games)

 

[Wisthep]

Thanks for this information Wisthep, very helpful I was getting very frustrated with the energy management portion of the game but overall enjoying it. (Which I can't say about most other HTML games)

Nay bother pal, always happy to help. This game has always been one of my favourites ever since I played the original 0.1 release (seems like an age ago now) and is not only the best HTML game I've played but in my opinion should be a template for future developers making open world HTML games to follow (is that a university student encouraging plagiarism? I guess it is).

I don't remember exactly when I wrote that post but it was probably before MW changed the way fitness worked and the rewards that follow. So I would add that if you haven't been working out in your room since the start of the game then get on that daily so you can unlock the gym and Lydia. Work through the events there, then level up your fitness via the button in your bedroom, as each level now provides bonuses like extra daily energy recovery.

Sadly I'm a busy little bee these days and I don't get to the forums as much as I used to so I'm glad my old posts are still contributing in some small way. I'd always toyed with the idea of writing a walkthrough but it just hasn't been necessary since MW implemented one in game. In the past I've posted my advice to help people with the two things that seem to cause the most irritation - energy and money - but the easiest way to ameliorate both of these issues is to remember there is no time limit restriction to any event in the game so you don't have to follow a specific route to optimize your experience - just enjoy it and replay it because I guarantee you've missed a bit of content somewhere.

Ta.

 

[Houselover]

Hey MW I am loving your game, it's a learning experience for me as I don't play a lot of HTML games. I have a question - (Note: I'm on the Love route mostly) -- I only had Jen in the modeling gig for a short while and never went there (through ignorance about that option) then once I got the company job leveled up I hired Jen as assistant. Here's the issue the mini phone drop down still shows here at the modeling job on weekends even after she stated she was dropping the job. If I start over (And I don't mind that option) will I need to finish the modeling agency path to completion in order to switch jobs to assistant or should I keep her as waitress until I can hire as my company assistant. That question holds for when I play through the Vice path -- leave her as waitress till striper job becomes available. Basically how do I switch her jobs smoothly so no overlap happens.
Sorry about length of reply but I wanted to put as many facts as I could to try for clarity. Thanks in advance

Note: I kept playing ignoring weekend modeling location notifications till suddenly on a Saturday I got a text form the modeling agency with one of her first photoshoots. I'm just going to move that save file to a temp location (in case you want it for trouble shooting). Then I'm restarting the game with Love route again. Hopefully when I get to the Modeling job opening this time you'll have answered the above questions about changing jobs -- otherwise she's a waitress till I am manager of Company and can hire her. I don't mind the restart as it's a great game, I also have a Vice version going that I playing using a different save file. Note both are pure Love or Vice not mixed. The other problem having is getting the clothing stage to upgrade properly, sometimes it works other times I spend a lot of time grinding with no success - thank god (MW) for the cheat option!

 

[MakinWaves]

Hey MW I am loving your game, it's a learning experience for me as I don't play a lot of HTML games. I have a question - (Note: I'm on the Love route mostly) -- I only had Jen in the modeling gig for a short while and never went there (through ignorance about that option) then once I got the company job leveled up I hired Jen as assistant. Here's the issue the mini phone drop down still shows here at the modeling job on weekends even after she stated she was dropping the job. If I start over (And I don't mind that option) will I need to finish the modeling agency path to completion in order to switch jobs to assistant or should I keep her as waitress until I can hire as my company assistant. That question holds for when I play through the Vice path -- leave her as waitress till striper job becomes available. Basically how do I switch her jobs smoothly so no overlap happens.
Sorry about length of reply but I wanted to put as many facts as I could to try for clarity. Thanks in advance

Note: I kept playing ignoring weekend modeling location notifications till suddenly on a Saturday I got a text form the modeling agency with one of her first photoshoots. I'm just going to move that save file to a temp location (in case you want it for trouble shooting). Then I'm restarting the game with Love route again. Hopefully when I get to the Modeling job opening this time you'll have answered the above questions about changing jobs -- otherwise she's a waitress till I am manager of Company and can hire her. I don't mind the restart as it's a great game, I also have a Vice version going that I playing using a different save file. Note both are pure Love or Vice not mixed. The other problem having is getting the clothing stage to upgrade properly, sometimes it works other times I spend a lot of time grinding with no success - thank god (MW) for the cheat option!

Glad you're enjoying it! You can freely hire / encourage her to pick up new jobs. They can all be done simultaneously, with the exception being the waitress job. That has no real content anyway, so you aren't missing out by getting her a new job. Assistant, stripper and model, she does them all at once. Same goes for the others girls.

Sorry about the clothing levels, it's easily my worst implemented mechanic and buggy to this day. One thing I'll be looking to overhaul once the game is finished.

 

[Houselover]

Glad you're enjoying it! You can freely hire / encourage her to pick up new jobs. They can all be done simultaneously, with the exception being the waitress job. That has no real content anyway, so you aren't missing out by getting her a new job. Assistant, stripper and model, she does them all at once. Same goes for the others girls.

Sorry about the clothing levels, it's easily my worst implemented mechanic and buggy to this day. One thing I'll be looking to overhaul once the game is finished.

Thanks for quick response. Ok she's a multi-tasker that's good to know. I thought I had messed up by not not following through on the photoshoots (still learning game). Till I play it more I'll probably keep it simple -- Love path assistant only or Vice path stripper. There seems to be enough variety in the game to make many interesting runs. I'm already doing separate primarily Vice and Love routes though. Note I'll keep trying to naturally progress the clothing (figure it out) but will still cheat it if needed to continue to have fun rather than frustration.

 

[MakinWaves]

Thanks for quick response. Ok she's a multi-tasker that's good to know. I thought I had messed up by not not following through on the photoshoots (still learning game). Till I play it more I'll probably keep it simple -- Love path assistant only or Vice path stripper. There seems to be enough variety in the game to make many interesting runs. I'm already doing separate primarily Vice and Love routes though. Note I'll keep trying to naturally progress the clothing (figure it out) but will still cheat it if needed to continue to have fun rather than frustration.

If you want an alternative non cheat way to progress the clothing, you can go buy gift cards at the store and give them to her.

 

[Houselover]

If you want an alternative non cheat way to progress the clothing, you can go buy gift cards at the store and give them to her.

OK thanks I like that better than cheating all the time. I've noticed what looks like an error in the help area. Not a major issue but I wasn't sure it had been reported yet: see attach png. Note Jen actual stats were 4000/4000 while I trying to figure out how to get her to use anal plug ( which I bought from Sex shop several game days ago). I also saw this same issue with the flirty texts tasks. I'll add my save file from the Vice play through.
Later this evening - after I wrote this entry I restarted Vice walk through from beginning and after multiple attempt to change dress lvl with the black shirt button I did as you suggested and use clothing card and it immediately upgraded clothing level. Thanks!

Me again, After last night playing this morning I realize that the hint issue I brought up might not be an error but the results of the method used for getting current scores to show up there, which would mean they would show up previous tasks also. Pls disregard paragraph about mistake. I leave you alone for a while. Just excided by your game.

 

[Houselover]

Me again but this time with a real error. I built up strip bar to the point I could add VIP room. Next I had Mel take me there and do a dance. After completion of VIP session game stated we went back to her place. When I clicked on ellipsis I was sent to sleep but when I click the wake button I got a black screen. I rolled back and tried again but same thing. Note I also got phone message from photoshoot manager wanting to meek but black screen hung around. I saved file after erro and backed up and saved file before VIP session started. See attach files.

 

[MakinWaves]

Me again but this time with a real error. I built up strip bar to the point I could add VIP room. Next I had Mel take me there and do a dance. After completion of VIP session game stated we went back to her place. When I clicked on ellipsis I was sent to sleep but when I click the wake button I got a black screen. I rolled back and tried again but same thing. Note I also got phone message from photoshoot manager wanting to meek but black screen hung around. I saved file after erro and backed up and saved file before VIP session started. See attach files.

Did you install the patch? It's available in the OP.

 

[Men&Wo]

Install the bugfix patch.

Thanks!

 

[Houselover]

Did you install the patch? It's available in the OP.

I missed that, as soon as I installed it I'm back in business, exploring her home. Thanks.