ouch2020

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Drugs used on her put her in that situation. Drugs that took all her reasoning away from her, drugs she did not know she was being
Since you are talking abour reality, I am sorry, but from one side, the way the Lucie was behaving before the night where she gets
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is pretty realistic, the "love elixir" is an excuse the author put in to be nice.

I have seen more than one young woman behave in certain ways in real context, and there was neither "love elixir", nor even being "waisted".
The "love elixir" seems only a bit stronger, and maybe not even, in the dishinibition part than the combination between a recreational environment that makes feel between peers who are actually favouring a certain behaviour, and thus prone to "we all exploring", between friends, and "anything that happens stays here", a vodka red bull or similar combination and a shot (alcohol level above zero but far from waisted), a bit of making her feel special and desired (especially if she feel insecure about herself), a couple of romantic words...
If you notice, effectively the game says clearly the product is ready to go on the market, which means it has already been cleared by food safety authorities, it does not contain any substance considered an illegal drug.

Let's say you try anyway to tell her what to do etc. without any solid proof and just based on a "I don't trust him" or a picture where you cannot even see who is the guy getting the blowjob (as the game says), and that you got in a questionable way that can get you fired.
She is not a submissive or an object - Lucie clearly intends to be neither, think what you do to get her to be interested in you, it is exactly by showing your are not Josh - so she will:
I) send you to Hell straight;
II) immediately feel even more reinforced in the convition to frequent and trust the people you told her not to.
The above, even because there is a good probability she will attribute your actions to jealousy (interpretation preferable for her, because comforting even more her "feeling special"), and feel like "left a Josh for a Josh", and your display of "alpha male macho" will only support that (actually, "alpha males" in animals in behave in a different way from what we tend to indicate as humans, but never mind that part).

If instead you are referring to day 11, the game is clear that the MC suspects something, but does not know what they are going to do, and
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Scenarios...
I) The MC storms immediately the office of Pascal, threatens/forces him to go to the villa etc. - great, you just ended up your MC in prison for a number of years the moment he storms the office and threatens Pascal, Pascal can continue his business happily
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and even if he does not sent you to jail he can ruin completely your reputation and put you down as the crazy guy motivated by jealousy - anything the MC has is something he says he heard around, even the "love elixir" in itself is not a proof, since it was actually.
II) The MC immediately goes to storm the villa - great, he has nothing to do it with,
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and there you go again as in case I) prison for years, no damage for Pascal
III) The MC immediately goes to the police - great, what does he do it with, something he overheard that is not sure, the fact Pascal had inside help to buy the company (good, but it can take a long time to investigate and really proof, and in the meantime
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IV) I get an armed team and storm the place - aside the fact not in every country is as easy to get weapons, especially war-level weapons, as in USA, getting in a fight is a good way to get the police in, and end up in case I, with the aggravating thing of the armed assualt.

This is not a shoot'em up game, let's enjoy the game, without getting too worked up about it :)
 

Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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Since you are talking abour reality, I am sorry, but from one side, the way the Lucie was behaving before the night where she gets
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is pretty realistic, the "love elixir" is an excuse the author put in to be nice.

I have seen more than one young woman behave in certain ways in real context, and there was neither "love elixir", nor even being "waisted".
The "love elixir" seems only a bit stronger, and maybe not even, in the dishinibition part than the combination between a recreational environment that makes feel between peers who are actually favouring a certain behaviour, and thus prone to "we all exploring", between friends, and "anything that happens stays here", a vodka red bull or similar combination and a shot (alcohol level above zero but far from waisted), a bit of making her feel special and desired (especially if she feel insecure about herself), a couple of romantic words...
If you notice, effectively the game says clearly the product is ready to go on the market, which means it has already been cleared by food safety authorities, it does not contain any substance considered an illegal drug.

Let's say you try anyway to tell her what to do etc. without any solid proof and just based on a "I don't trust him" or a picture where you cannot even see who is the guy getting the blowjob (as the game says), and that you got in a questionable way that can get you fired.
She is not a submissive or an object - Lucie clearly intends to be neither, think what you do to get her to be interested in you, it is exactly by showing your are not Josh - so she will:
I) send you to Hell straight;
II) immediately feel even more reinforced in the convition to frequent and trust the people you told her not to.
The above, even because there is a good probability she will attribute your actions to jealousy (interpretation preferable for her, because comforting even more her "feeling special"), and feel like "left a Josh for a Josh", and your display of "alpha male macho" will only support that (actually, "alpha males" in animals in behave in a different way from what we tend to indicate as humans, but never mind that part).

If instead you are referring to day 11, the game is clear that the MC suspects something, but does not know what they are going to do, and
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.

Scenarios...
I) The MC storms immediately the office of Pascal, threatens/forces him to go to the villa etc. - great, you just ended up your MC in prison for a number of years the moment he storms the office and threatens Pascal, Pascal can continue his business happily
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and even if he does not sent you to jail he can ruin completely your reputation and put you down as the crazy guy motivated by jealousy - anything the MC has is something he says he heard around, even the "love elixir" in itself is not a proof, since it was actually.
II) The MC immediately goes to storm the villa - great, he has nothing to do it with,
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and there you go again as in case I) prison for years, no damage for Pascal
III) The MC immediately goes to the police - great, what does he do it with, something he overheard that is not sure, the fact Pascal had inside help to buy the company (good, but it can take a long time to investigate and really proof, and in the meantime
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IV) I get an armed team and storm the place - aside the fact not in every country is as easy to get weapons, especially war-level weapons, as in USA, getting in a fight is a good way to get the police in, and end up in case I, with the aggravating thing of the armed assualt.

This is not a shoot'em up game, let's enjoy the game, without getting too worked up about it :)
Shit man, it's about the tags not about fucking reality.
 

linkinn

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Shit man, it's about the tags not about fucking reality.
The love route has improved alot imho, it's not a "go on dinners and give roses" romance game (it's a lust relationship at first) but it's pretty good.



Really liked the update, Lucie trying to show MC thats she's a woman and not a girl got her in a pretty shitty position, but i think she learned a valuable lesson, it's a good "I told you so" situation for the MC after the rescue. Interested seeing how MC will get out of jail.
 

Antonie van Leeuwenhoek

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Lucie trying to show MC thats she's a woman and not a girl got her in a pretty shitty position, but i think she learned a valuable lesson, it's a good "I told you so" situation for the MC after the rescue. Interested seeing how MC will get out of jail.
Where i might have heard this situation recently, hmmmmmmm. a5viI92PAF89q.gif
 
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Thanks about your feedbacks !
Specialy for ouch2020 for this long reply !

eye123321 Congratulation to see the night with lucie at the end of day 11.

SeveredRealms I'll add tag "kidnapping" if you want. Not rape.

bosp I have great respect for the English language and of course another person did the translation.
I also have a proofreader who went over it.


I'm working hard about day 12, I want beautiful and interactive ending for each player.

day12_salle_proces_2.jpg

Best regards,
Eric.
A simple independant creator of video game.
 

Netjiespinner

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Apparently no mattet what you do Lucie is going to be used by all the men in the end rather dumb i would say. Drugs are used yes but really with evidebce the mc copied he can shutdown that joker Pascal fastet then his mouth.
 
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BlueOrchid

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If you're going to make a game with choices, best to be up front about the consequences of those choices up front at all times i.e. that status bar for lucie should not be going away. I also felt like the space you're giving for these direction button inputs should be longer. Is harem route encouraged or am I lucie focused?
 

Netjiespinner

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I am Lucie focused and want to keep her away from those sex maniacs probably using the girls as prostitutes. Give us the option to allow it or not.
 

linkinn

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Apparently no mattet what you do Lucie is going to be used by all the men in the end rather dumb i would say. Drugs are used yes but really with evidebce the mc copied he can shutdown that joker Pascal fastet then his mouth.
That's not correct, just play the game and you'll see.
 

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I guess what is truly baffling me here is the use of a date rape drug that in almost every country equals rape. The mc has known what pascal is doing and could easily stop it yet no one here even bats a eye at that fact. Would she be pissed not once the drug wears off and having the police involved and pascal arrested she would know exactly what was going on. The mc would have the backing of the police in almost every country all it would take is her going for a drug test in a hospital and pascal would be in prison the same day awaiting trial. Self defense also works in his favor by protecting her starting right at the damn photoshoot with him knowing wtf is happening. I do not know what goes on over there in good old France but wild guess the same laws would apply.
The other baffling part is how the hell this is even considered romance and being defended as such. ANY MAN that would allow what is going on in this game is not a man that shows any sign of caring or being in a romance type relationship with the main LI. He would stand up and protect her even if he knew at first she would be pissed because thats what someone in a romantic caring relationship would do. He would not have let that photoshoot get as far as it did and he most certainty would not have let her out of his sight and allowed her to leave with him.
Funny part is those defending this game when in various discords and other forums its being slammed for how out of even porn reality this game is being written then being claimed as romance claimed there is no date rape or ntr when its blatantly shoved in peoples faces. Dev saying how about adding a kidnapping tag... Really so drugging her and if the mc doesnt make it she wont be raped? truly fucking baffling.....
 

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The other baffling part is how the hell this is even considered romance and being defended as such. ANY MAN that would allow what is going on in this game is not a man that shows any sign of caring or being in a romance type relationship with the main LI. He would stand up and protect her even if he knew at first she would be pissed because thats what someone in a romantic caring relationship would do. He would not have let that photoshoot get as far as it did and he most certainty would not have let her out of his sight and allowed her to leave with him.
I'll answer but you can be sure i'am not fighting you on your opinions, they are yours and as far as i'am concerned they are valid.

But, what you are suggesting is that MC should not care about him or his job and just nanny a young adult all day long? not counting that she would resent MC because she's trying to show to him that she's not a girl but a woman and yes.. she did make dumb decisions there is no defence there, but... isn't that what growing up is? making stupid mistakes and learning from them? if... she was raped we wouldn't be having this discussion, i would be right there with you.

He would not have let that photoshoot get as far as it did
On this one i'am right there with you, i didn't liked the scene at all.

Really so drugging her and if the mc doesnt make it she wont be raped? truly fucking baffling.....
Come on dude, we could go for years if we were to discuss every IF in every game in this forum, including your game, the point is that it didn't happen and MC was there to save her as you suggested, in the end he's the hero regardless of how it went.




I did have heayy critics about this game in the past, but the dev is trying to make it work for everyone and that alone makes me respect him, the game is by no means a full romance game, but it's there. Nobody can write a story that everyone will like with no "buts", especially with conflicts.
 
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