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Always too short an update, damn it. The Domina scene was fire, though.
I absolutely agree, we had "Luna's fall from grace", which was a total badass AVN, and this one is better than the last one, but yep, updates are too small, it's a shame we can't have bigger updates. Does anyone know if you can have a love interest with Jirvah, Diatima and Amabel at the same time?? ive not tried yet to be the mother and stay kind. Im fllowing the dark queen evil route.
 
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Stan5851

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No, I mean that most of the good options (blue) involves Luna being groped or by men without refusing if I recall correctly.
These aren't “good options” — they're the decisions of a submissive bitch. If you want to allow Luna to be like that, going against the game's canon, then this is exactly what you should be prepared for. Your Luna will be fucked and humiliated by anyone who feels like it.
Always too short an update, damn it. The Domina scene was fire, though.
I kicked out this insolent bitch because she destroys the atmosphere of the Dom route. IMO, this "Domina"would be better suited for those who choose the submissive path, but for the route of a harsh but fair Goddess (Dark Queen Luna/Raven), this bitch looks like a fifth wheel. So for me, this update will be even shorter, lol.
 

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Does anyone know if you can have a love interest with Jirvah, Diatima and Amabel at the same time?? ive not tried yet to be the mother and stay kind. Im fllowing the dark queen evil route.
Yes, you can. The Dom route (Dark Queen) is ideal for such lesbian relationships. What's more, even here you can choose whether to be gentler with these girls or to be more dominant and controlling with them.
 

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Always too short an update, damn it. The Domina scene was fire, though.
I absolutely agree, we had "Luna's fall from grace", which was a total badass AVN, and this one is better than the last one, but yep, updates are too small, it's a shame we can't have bigger updates. Does anyone know if you can have a love interest with Jirvah, Diatima and Amabel at the same time?? ive not tried yet to be the mother and stay kind. Im fllowing the dark queen evil route.
Monthly small updates or three plus month longer updates.

Pick your poison, either way, someone will whine about length or time...*shrugs*
 

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Yes, you can. The Dom route (Dark Queen) is ideal for such lesbian relationships. What's more, even here you can choose whether to be gentler with these girls or to be more dominant and controlling with them.
Sweet, i hope in the end you keep all three as romantic partners, just about to play this latest update, might do another playthrough, see what mother route is like.
 

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I kicked out this insolent bitch because she destroys the atmosphere of the Dom route. IMO, this "Domina"would be better suited for those who choose the submissive path, but for the route of a harsh but fair Goddess (Dark Queen Luna/Raven), this bitch looks like a fifth wheel. So for me, this update will be even shorter, lol.
While I'm also playing the dominant Luna, it is kind of hot to submit once in a while. But not always, and I'm expecting to turn the tables on that bitch sooner or later, like in their first encounter.
 
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No, I mean that most of the good options (blue) involves Luna being groped or by men without refusing if I recall correctly.
OK, thank you for clarifying.

Well, whether they are good options or not, depends on the taste, I would say.

There seems to be a kind of "zealots church" who consider the holy truth only if Luna is constantly or almost on the red, killing and putting down everybody she can and of course the vengeful goddess, and heretic to be burnt at the stake anybody else :).

Frozen Synapses is smart enough that may silently ignore suggestions, but does not reply badly or disregard them explicitly and does not refuse a priori indications of possible bugs - I know because I am a supporter and I sent him messages with some suggestions and some bugs, even just visual, which instead here had created strong rejection reactions.

Personally, I am doing a different path, not all blue, but also not all red or dominant vengeful goddess - actually, playing with urm and the variables, and doing different saves, I am exploring multiple possibilities, and I have seen that even if in a key scene one choses the vengeful goddess , there can still be a number of times where there is a blue option.

Some choices are rememberd as boolean variables (1/0, although it does not mean the variable is defined as boolean, just used as such), others use the value to save the choice (e.g. the captain is saved a variable with values 1, 2, or 3 depending on whom is the captain), others rather than store the single choice or tendency (e.g. submisiveness, dominance), seems used to store the inclination towards one ending or another (e.g. there is a variable that relate to an ending or partial ending involving the baron, that get increased the more Luna seems to be linked to the baron).

Trying different things can give interesting results, let's just say the highest strength of military in my test was not [ISPOIILER] with Domina wipping around[/ISPOILER], but rather with one of the other captains, and either Luna pushing Amabel or Luna herself going down (though in that one, I have still to check the "military" value if she stops Duncan).
When I had domina as captain and the higher levels of both dominance and submissive above 70 and with dominance higher than submissiveness, the military has slightly less strength than two other paths were I have Amabel or Duncan as captain and lower values.

I consider it one of the strengths of the game till now, and done even better than in "Luna's fall", the possibilty of that by combining different choices, one can have a complexity of game and multitude of paths, which can allow to mold Luna and her relations, in part the story, and can give the game replaybility.
 
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Remember how Luna is treated in the "Forgiving Mother" route.
Here's one example (quoted from "Changelog"):
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Is this how to treat a Mother or a Goddess?
At the very least, even because of this, this path is unacceptable to me.

Moreover, Luna punishes those who deserve it.
Therefore, considering who Luna has to deal with (who opposes her), the "Dark Queen" route is ideal!
 
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Remember how Luna is treated in the "Forgiving Mother" route.
Here's one example (quoted from "Changelog"):
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Is this how to treat a Mother or a Goddess?
At the very least, even because of this, this path is unacceptable to me.

Moreover, Luna punishes those who deserve it.
Therefore, considering who Luna has to deal with (who opposes her), the "Dark Queen" path is ideal!
In reality....given who Luna really is, any path other than her being a badass bitch and crushing the pathetic men around her....surely can never be taken seriously. I mean really, how could Raven actually accept any of that shit from her vessel? The paths are fun and I do play them all...but there is...only one real path heh.
 

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Remember how Luna is treated in the "Forgiving Mother" route.
Here's one example (quoted from "Changelog"):
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As far as the 0.27 is concerned, WRONG - play the game.

Luna has sex with the knighs only if Luna has a value for bimbo above a certain value , (which in turns happens only if in the village she went to Mordred, had the drink, did not try to resist and instead embraced the bimbo ), and then after she has become the knight protector accepts to get a drink with Mordred that further "trains" her .
If she does not do that, she will no reach the value , plus that works only if she accepts having the knights around.

That happens even if she is on the dark queen path, because it depends in part from choices made before the dark queen path started and that can influence her even after.

In my main base "forgiving mother" paths she went to Mordred, had the drink, and resisted, so, she is not bimbo enough, and does not get the further training and does not bang the knights when they come (to see that scene, I had to cheat), even if I accepted having the knights coming .

In my base "dark queen" , I set her with the bimbo value at 3, then went for the drink with Mordred having the further training, and so when the knights arrive she goes "service" them.

Which seems perfectly coherent with the logic of the game for me, if it was not possible to make choices that change the character and relations, but only chose pre-determined paths, it would be a visual novel not a game.

Moreover, Luna punishes those who deserve it.
Therefore, considering who Luna has to deal with (who opposes her), the "Dark Queen" path is ideal!
You prefer to chose the "dark queen", that is absolutely fair, but it is just a matter of your personal preference, there is no ideal path.

E.g. one can make both the "dark queen" and the "forgiving mother" paths, and even the parts before that, even with little sexual content, if so they wish, or get Luna to always chose the "blue" path on anything (I admit I haven't tried that one, always mixed a bit) even if they do one red choice (the "dark queen").
 

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As far as the 0.27 is concerned, WRONG - play the game.

Luna has sex with the knighs only if Luna has a value for bimbo above a certain value , (which in turns happens only if in the village she went to Mordred, had the drink, did not try to resist and instead embraced the bimbo ), and then after she has become the knight protector accepts to get a drink with Mordred that further "trains" her .
If she does not do that, she will no reach the value , plus that works only if she accepts having the knights around.


https://f95zone.to/threads/luna-reloaded-v0-27-frozen-synapse.182835/post-18072216

In my post above there was a quote about v0.21 Part 3 (not v0.27)
(When there was a choice of which route to take).
 
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https://f95zone.to/threads/luna-reloaded-v0-27-frozen-synapse.182835/post-18072216

In my post above there was a quote about v0.21 Part 3 (not v0.27)
(When there was a choice of which route to take).
Changes nothing to the fact the information you provided about the consequences of chosing one path or another are wrong, and that your preferences are fully legitimate, but you should not use misleading information to support your personal preference as if it was an absolute truth.

You quoted the log for 0.21, but to use your own words " Remember how Luna is treated in the "Forgiving Mother" route. Here's one example".
That is wrong, because as I indicated in my post, in both paths Luna can be more assertive or more submissive, be e.g. a "bimbo whore" or a "bimbo doll", a mistress or a whore (slut in the text, whore in the variable name) towards the guards, or neither of the two (though that depends also on who is the captain, it if is not Duncan, there are other possibilities).
And the list goes on.
It is not a matter of a predetermined path, Luna makes anyway her own path and make her own decisions along the way (or better, you do it for her), it is not locked by that one decision - it is one of the good things of the game, effectively it had a big weigth for me on becoming a patreon for it.

What is true is that there are some options where Luna can use her goddess powers in a more coercive way if she is the "queen raven"(e.g. if she does not have enough dominance points to convince her "normally" and the captain is Amabel, she can convince her to go the sexy way by using her Raven powers only if she is on the "queen" path, at the cost of one goddess point)- but even that is not an absolute, even when she is the "forgiving mother", she can basically make Dia feel guilty and therefore a possible path where Dia is more submissive to her as "minion", by using her "Raven powers" (it does cost a special goddess point to do that).
 

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can someone maybe make a mod to get the best out of everything or maybe make a guide
"Walkthroughs" are included in every changelog for each version (in OP), so they are easy to use. If you want to have even more control over the game, install URM.
Remember how Luna is treated in the "Forgiving Mother" route.
Here's one example (quoted from "Changelog"):
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Is this how to treat a Mother or a Goddess?
At the very least, even because of this, this path is unacceptable to me.

Moreover, Luna punishes those who deserve it.
Therefore, considering who Luna has to deal with (who opposes her), the "Dark Queen" route is ideal!
My friend, you are absolutely right. Moreover, it is important to understand that in the lore of this game universe - in the games where we take control of the Luna/Raven , it is precisely the Dom route that is canon. And I'll say more, in many ways, players loved Luna precisely for this firm, tough, and uncompromising style, which so favorably distinguished (and distinguishes) her from the hundreds of “happy sluts” FMC present in other AVNs with female protagonists. So listen to your heart, not the words of those who try to justify weakness and submissiveness, which was never characteristic of the formidable immortal goddess Raven, with whom we (Luna) merged in the canon BadAss bitch finale of LFFG.
 
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My friend, you are absolutely right. Moreover, it is important to understand that in the lore of this game universe - in the games where we take control of the Luna/Raven , it is precisely the Dom route that is canon.
In the previous game the main ending was the goddess Raven ascending to her goddess status but as not crazy (which was another option), but nonetheless still having the three in one, I guess you are referring to that.
But it was not said to require being fully "dom", you could get it even having more submissive points than dom points - I did it - getting it depended on the choices made in the story, so, there is no "dom" route, just a goddess ending.
She was three personalities in one, so, could not be only one aspect, you are actually trying to simplify a complex personality and situation, plus forgetting there is more than one way to manipulate persons, and the most effective is not to force them, but to give them the idea (illusion) that they are the ones in charge even if they are actually doing what you want for what matters to you.

Effectively, the World and history are full of us men being so arrogantly full of themselves and thinking they are above their apparently submissive women, that end up being played by the women using their overinflated but in reality weak (need for constant reinforcement) ego :-D
Not by chance that if you want to learn someone's secret, a path which in average has good results is to put a woman in their bed :).

And I'll say more, in many ways, players loved Luna precisely for this firm, tough, and uncompromising style,
It is fully legitimate for you to think so, and it is indeed possible for some players, maybe even many, to share it completely, however, you cannot write "players loved Luna", because there you are preteding to know the reasoning, and to talk for, every all the players.

Given you pretend to write for all the players, it is enough one player differing to make your statement false, and I don't know if I am the only one, but I certainly make false your statement, and therefore I can state you have no right to talk for all the players.

In my case what I liked was the setting, the way Frozen Synapses got around some potential limitations, but even more, the fact that Luna could have many different choices and could have some complexity as character.
That is specifically linked to the fact that she was not constrained to be, to use your words "firm, though and uncompromising" all the time and in all situations, but also have doubts, like would be and is normal for a person in an identity crisis, and be remissive, depending on the situations and contexts, something that to me made her and her story more realistic, even in the limits of a game.

which so favorably distinguished (and distinguishes) her from the hundreds of “happy sluts” FMC present in other AVNs with female protagonists.
Aside hte "happy sluts", Luna, and Luna Reloaded, are supposed to be an adult ame, not an Adult Visual Novel, hence the bigger variety and choices.

So listen to your heart, not the words of those who try to justify weakness and submissiveness, which was never characteristic of the formidable immortal goddess Raven, with whom we (Luna) merged in the canon BadAss bitch finale of LFFG.
Do you realise that people like me who are not followers of your Raven religion :-D are actually the ones saying (check my posts), that is perfectly fine for you and the others that are your line of thinking to play the game and see it as you prefer, while you and the other zealots are the ones that flame against, and want to bash, anybody that is not aligned to you ?

Effectively, in Luna reloaded I am myself playing both the "forgiving mother" and "vengeful goddess" in parallel.

I can see you and others are really taking the "goddess Raven" as if it was a real religion, in which you are the absolute zealots :-D, I wonder how long will take you to launch a crusade to impose the Raven goddess religion to the real world :-D, have you already decided which of the real churches you want to follow as model ? :-D

This all story is becoming quite funny from one side, though from the other, if you poeple are like this in real life, it is also worrying for the present and near future of the world, and I mean the real one, not Luna's one :).
 
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