VN Ren'Py Lust Campus [C3 Final] [RedLolly]

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reyir

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I agree with your fear of the game going abandonia. It has been very quiet on this front for some time now.
But I don't agree that just replacing the art would have been better: The old base-story was goot - this is what we agree on, right? But the story-telling was not that good. There were a few shortcuts into corruption and even some bigger story glitches. It felt like not beein ironed out enough.
The new story deploys a slower yet more realistic pace. It is also hotter at the same time. It is more believable, I think.

But yeah, what is all this worth if new versions of this still quite "simple" game take more developement time than Eva's epos for example? Let's just hope it will not be abandoned.
I said that she only needs to replace the old art to a new one and polish the story a little bit, because thats her number one priority to keep her patron happy, she wasnt Evakiss that did her art by herself without any artist and basically did everything by herself, but redlolly need someone to makes the art and many other things for her game, this makes her expenses every month will became way bigger than Eva's.

Every patreon dev income comes from their patron and patron chose to supports dev based on their content, Eva can do whatever she wants to her games because she did almost all of it by herself, she doesnt needs to pay someone every month to help her develop the game, this makes her can be at eased to develop her game and her games was only a passions project at that point.

But not with Redlolly, she needs to pay some people to keep her games alive and her income will only increased if she give enough new content to their patron or enough new content so people chose to became her patron, the longer she dragged this development cycle, the more she needs to pay to keep her games alive, but based on this trajectory, her updated cycle keep getting longer and longer, some of her patron already starts to leave her and many people doesnt even want to supports her by becoming her patron based on how long this remakes thing going.

So its litterally way better in every aspect for her to just replace the old art with a new art and just changes the story a little bit to released the chapter 6 as soon as possible to get people attention and eventually convince them to became her patron.

This is her first project, so her highest priority should be build up her community first and makes as much money possible to supports her second games.

This is what Eva did with her games, she build her community during GGGB era and because she did almost everything by herself, she can keep most of her incomes everymonth, and now she used the money she get during GGGB era to develop ORS, game that was more complex than GGGB and with way better art.

But Redlolly choose the wrong way for her games, she doesnt need to makes her first game to complex, by making her games too complex, she needs a longer time to develop it and the expense every month will be very big, i know that she only keeps a small amount of her incomes from her patron every month after paying other people their money, and this strategy is wrong, she doesnt have the capability and money to supports the development with this scale yet.

Sometimes being way too idealists do more harm than good.
 

reyir

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And then if Redlolly choose to drop this game, and then starts to develop a new games, the people sentiment will became very bad because she already dropped one of her game and choose to develop another games when theres no guarantee that her new game will not dropped again in the future, people will thinks twice to became her patron and if that happends her income will not even enough to develop her second games, at that point her career as game developer will definitely end.

Its different with Eva tho, even though the development cycle of her new games keep on getting longer and longer, but many people will still supports her because she already finish her first game and the second one has good amount of content every chapter, theres only a small chances of her dropped her games based on that, her track record already give her new games a plus point for her patron and other people to supports her

If i remember correctly, Redlolly patreon income reached i think more than 3K every month in the past for many months after Eva promoted it on her patreon, but now its only 1,6K every month, when the scale of her game became way bigger after the remakes, but her income is only a half of her income in the past before she remakes her game, just based on this, i dont see any chances this game will even be finished in the future if Redlolly keep dragging this remakes thing, she needs to changes her strategy before its too late, and i really hope she will, cuz its really a shame to see this game collapse like this
 
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I-No

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I really don't understand this game's development.

First we had a promising game with some reliable updates. Then all of a sudden there was the artist on a "porn strike", which is strangely emough when working on a porn game in the first place. But well, shit happens. We all expected the game to become abandoned, but the developer found a replacement artist, which is seriously commendable. Now the waiting started for the game to be redone with new graphics, which should be just a matter of weeks since the story and the art already existed up to chapter 5. But that didn't happen. Instead we got an "improved" remake which actually fell way behind the original one. And now there is basically a deadlock for months.

IMHO that game is done. :cautious:
 
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Deniz31

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Hi guys,
I'm sorry I've been more absent than I should be around here. When my head is at work, it is very difficult for me to find the moment or the way to write around here. But hey, I'll make a post talking about it, now let's talk about what matters to you: the release of C3.

C3 will be released tomorrow, Monday the 12th. The cause of the delay is that once our proofreader bugtested the chapter (thanks Tom!) we realized that the chapter had points that could be improved. We've added some more images, a couple of point and clicks, two explicit animations, more sprite versions, more text variables...
Everything we have seen necessary to give you the best version of the chapter.
In addition, with these three chapters we have been adding new content and also rearranging the old one, and with that we have achieved that in the next chapter, C4, the story of LC will reach the point of the old version in its entirety.
Thank you for your patience and I hope that when you play C3 tomorrow you will see that it was worth it.
See u soon
 

I-No

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So we're still lacking behind the old LC5 version storywise. And why? Because of proofreading? Yeah, sure... It's almost 1.5 years now to catch up to the original version. Not that I am ungrateful for the upcoming update. Kudos for that! But still lacking behind storywise? I feel almost reminded of the "Lust and Power" remake.

But well, as a f95zone pirate I am probably not really entitled to those kind of complaints. But I do wonder what the patreons have to say in that matter...
 

Blurpee69

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I'm actually pleasantly surprised that the Chapter 3 remake is getting released tomorrow. That last status update that was posted left me feeling like we were a month or more out.
 

Deniz31

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Hi guys!
C3_Alpha is now available:


This new chapter is loaded with many new scenes, more point and clicks and the first animations in LC scenes.

I could number the sprites, backgrounds, number of illustrations... But the truth is that you will get a better idea by playing it yourself. We have put a lot of effort into it and even though it's an alpha (I remind you that it may have bugs) we believe that you will not find anything that crashes or anything too serious.

We are very happy with the result and we believe that together with chapter 1 and 2, C3 fully shows the type of video game that Fausto and I can make. We have taken great care of the details, the aesthetics and the game dynamics, as well as the character design and I hope you can enjoy it.

As always, the Beta version will be available in a week, with an extra scene and some more illustrations, apart from having the gallery implemented.

Any comment or proposal that you have after playing it, you can discuss it with me through the Early_birds discord channel and we will take it into account for the Beta or the Final.

That's about it, please enjoy!
 
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