VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lust Campus [C3 Final] [RedLolly]

[reyir]

This is kind of a bummer as this had a unique visual style. This is also why I don't donate a dime until a game is complete. I've been burned too many times on games that are either unfinished or take years to complete. I'll donate $50-100 on a game as thanks after it's completed but I don't donate before.

One lesson learned, if there are NSFW games with unique art style, better find out if the dev draw the art themselves or they just outsourced it, because Art is definitely the most expensive thing when it comes to developing this kind of games, if the dev outsourced it, they need a lot of money to keep the game alive, when the money decreases, the chances they keep the game will instantly decreases too, just look at Redlolly here.

One of the most successful example, Evakiss, she drew everything, so she already cut the cost of the development by very huge margins, she even did the writing and coding too, so the least she needed is the cost of living her life every month (Buying groceries, pay rent etc.) And she done it very well and survive until now.

So, the moment we find out the dev outsourced the unique art style like Redlolly did, we need to be sceptical

 

[RetroGuy]

So it is abandoned after all. Real shame as it was nice in current shape and had a big potential

 

[Lovely Dani]

ah the cycle is now complete!. lack of updates -> sob story leading to a "reboot" -> all communication stops with even longer between updates -> completely abandoned

But Patreon still active.
The Dev is a girl who like gain money in easy way, in fact now she is on OF.

 

[Geigi]

But Patreon still active.
The Dev is a girl who like gain money in easy way, in fact now she is on OF.

Yeah, why bother to make a game when she can have an OF plus having a patreon just in case.

 

[dolfe67]

One lesson learned, if there are NSFW games with unique art style, better find out if the dev draw the art themselves or they just outsourced it, because Art is definitely the most expensive thing when it comes to developing this kind of games, if the dev outsourced it, they need a lot of money to keep the game alive, when the money decreases, the chances they keep the game will instantly decreases too, just look at Redlolly here.

Some truth and she already lost her first artist. But with no communication, we can only suppose that the artist is still working with her. So I don't think it's a money issue but just a lost of motivation (not to say laziness or milking)

One of the most successful example, Evakiss, she drew everything, so she already cut the cost of the development by very huge margins, she even did the writing and coding too, so the least she needed is the cost of living her life every month (Buying groceries, pay rent etc.) And she done it very well and survive until now.

Maybe in her first game (GGGB) she did everything herself, but in ORS she outsources colorization and background creation. And she's not really drawing but tracing: she needs a real image to reproduce it. Still has to search for porn images of certain models but that's not very difficult in this day and age

 

[TimoF965]

in fact now she is on OF.

You have the account?

 

[cuckold3]

Last update on the Patreon C4 was in March. Maybe they are still working on it?

 

[reyir]

Some truth and she already lost her first artist. But with no communication, we can only suppose that the artist is still working with her. So I don't think it's a money issue but just a lost of motivation (not to say laziness or milking)

It can be money issues too if she pay the artist based on how many arts they created, let just said $300 for 1 art, and there are 20 arts for every update, so it will be $6000, if she get $3000 from the patreon every month, and after all the cut she get $2100, let just say she got $500 from that for her monthly expenses, the rest will be $1600 that will goes to the artist, by doing this, she needs 4 months to fully pay the artist for one update, even if she finished the update in two months, she needs to hold it to accumulates enough money to pay her artist first before releasing the update, nad this period will becomes longer and longer if the money she get from patreon decreased or she just wants too many arts in one update, this is why outsourcing the arts will be tricky when it comes to this kind of game

and this is also why i think its stupid when she tried to fully remake the games, and adding additional arts in every update, it will only put more burden on her and patreon works on how fast the updates you can bring to your patreon, the moment you drags the development cycle, your patreon will leave one by one, and she still wasnt on that kind of level yet, what she needed to do just replace the old arts with new arts, she dont need to changes the codes and story, she can just replaces it instantly and continued the development, thats simple

Maybe in her first game (GGGB) she did everything herself, but in ORS she outsources colorization and background creation. And she's not really drawing but tracing: she needs a real image to reproduce it. Still has to search for porn images of certain models but that's not very difficult in this day and age

But what i mean is, if nothing is working or somehow in the future her incomes will becomes lesser and lesser to the point she cant outsource the arts anymore, she has the capabilities to do it herself. So she can keep the development alive, just like she did on GGGB

 

[dolfe67]

It can be money issues too if she pay the artist based on how many arts they created, let just said $300 for 1 art, and there are 20 arts for every update, so it will be $6000, if she get $3000 from the patreon every month, and after all the cut she get $2100, let just say she got $500 from that for her monthly expenses, the rest will be $1600 that will goes to the artist, by doing this, she needs 4 months to fully pay the artist for one update, even if she finished the update in two months, she needs to hold it to accumulates enough money to pay her artist first before releasing the update, nad this period will becomes longer and longer if the money she get from patreon decreased or she just wants too many arts in one update, this is why outsourcing the arts will be tricky when it comes to this kind of game

and this is also why i think its stupid when she tried to fully remake the games, and adding additional arts in every update, it will only put more burden on her and patreon works on how fast the updates you can bring to your patreon, the moment you drags the development cycle, your patreon will leave one by one, and she still wasnt on that kind of level yet, what she needed to do just replace the old arts with new arts, she dont need to changes the codes and story, she can just replaces it instantly and continued the development, thats simple

But what i mean is, if nothing is working or somehow in the future her incomes will becomes lesser and lesser to the point she cant outsource the arts anymore, she has the capabilities to do it herself. So she can keep the development alive, just like she did on GGGB

She made a partnership with the artist, I don't know how they share the money but it's not a commission by piece.

She has a nice profile:

 

[Zarkton cruises]

But Patreon still active.
The Dev is a girl who like gain money in easy way, in fact now she is on OF.

What's her onlyfans?

 

[jesse1991]

But Patreon still active.
The Dev is a girl who like gain money in easy way, in fact now she is on OF.

"active" as in not deleting the acount after 3 months of no updating

 

[Walter Victor]

But Patreon still active.

RedLolly being 'active' on Patreon is subjective at best.

On February 9 she posted: "Chapter 4 is around the corner!" She then posted 'sneak peek's on February 23 and March 22.

Since then, not a word.

 

[Mesmerizet]

But Patreon still active.
The Dev is a girl who like gain money in easy way, in fact now she is on OF.

Haha, this is exactly what I said before.

What is her OF?

 

[Lovely Dani]

Haha, this is exactly what I said before.

What is her OF?

I cant find it anymore, probably she changed her iscription. I think she's a professional scammer.

 

[TimoF965]

I think she's a professional scammer.

No, don't think that. At least not to the Nigerian-Prince-extend.

 

[RippedKegels]

I wouldn't say she's a scammer. She doesn't do the art for her games and has to reply on other people, and that's always a recipe for disaster in the indie porn game scene.

The worst thing is leaving the patreon up and running with zero communication. But people always have hope their own projects will keep going and do well or make a big come back if necessary. More delusional than scammy. And i mean, just stop being a patron. That's kinda on you if you don't.

And i don't think she has an OF. She's definitely a nude model of some kind judging by her IG, but there isn't anything out there under that name or red lolly.

Who knows what the situation is. I hope the game comes back tho.

 

[dolfe67]

I wouldn't say she's a scammer. She doesn't do the art for her games and has to reply on other people, and that's always a recipe for disaster in the indie porn game scene.

The worst thing is leaving the patreon up and running with zero communication. But people always have hope their own projects will keep going and do well or make a big come back if necessary. More delusional than scammy. And i mean, just stop being a patron. That's kinda on you if you don't.

And i don't think she has an OF. She's definitely a nude model of some kind judging by her IG, but there isn't anything out there under that name or red lolly.

Who knows what the situation is. I hope the game comes back tho.

Voluntarily or involuntarily it's milking. But you're right, if people don't want to be milked they can just unsubscribe. Otherwise it'd be dumb for her to stop patreon when she can obviously get "free" money.

 

[Walter Victor]

Voluntarily or involuntarily it's milking. But you're right, if people don't want to be milked they can just unsubscribe. Otherwise it'd be dumb for her to stop patreon when she can obviously get "free" money.

Except for that 'integrity' thing. But hey, who cares about that, when I can get money for doing jack shit!

 

[TimoF965]

Voluntarily or involuntarily it's milking.

For me, milking is a more active process. She had to make more posts for this. Just going quiet is thus no real milking for me.

 

[fortuna95]

Still 1k bucks/month for nothing:

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nice pocket money