VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lust of Pain [v0.3] [Vilkas Creative]

[doku99]

I'm not so sure if it is still "primarily from Christian activist groups". Not in the USA a certainly not when Big Tech is concerned (your PayPal, Patreon, Social media etc).

To be clear, I'm not denying the self-evident fact, that not only Christian but most religious doctrines seem to be, if not outright hostile, at least highly suspicious toward porn. And most conservative thinkers I know are heavily pro family orientated and see porn as a detrimental force. That's a fact.

Buuuuut... In recent years, there is quite powerful other force, at the moment I would say even more hyper-moralistically inclined (in the worst possible meaning of the word). And this is EXACTLY the MO of people I'm talking about: trying to hit advertisers of people they disagree with, businesses they don't like, pressuring payment processors and banks, or even contacting employers of individuals to get them fired. And they can do it at the highest levels of bureaucracy like the Department of Justice under Obama/Biden administration (Operation Choke Point). That was exactly and purposefully what they did: legal businesses, and porn and sex work was one of the primary ones, ware targets, and it was done by "investigating" banks and financial institutions not in a legitimate sense of the world (to protect consumers) but as a pressure tactic, so they drop undesirable (for administration) clients.

EDIT: And what happened with PayPal in last few days is one of the bast examples also. Nothing to do with Christians. Everything to do with totalitarian impulses in people. Charging peoples accounts 2500$ for saying the wrong thing (decided by PayPal sole discretion).

That's probably true but that's a separate issue from porn, that's more political stuff, not porn. We talked about porn and I said why porn specifically has been under attack and by who, which is very well documented. You're talking about something else. All censorship is bad tho

Honestly I am really fed up with all these (ongoing and neverending) bullshit mockery, demeaning remarks about Engrish especially because clearly the developer is not native speaker.

Then don't advertise your game as intending to "fix the many shortcomings we see in adult games" and "raise the bar very high" and say it's made by a "team of professionals"?!

The worst part is that some (if not most) of the complainers themselves didn't use proper formal English as well as they liked others to, but that is the price to pay for free speech.

There is a big difference between just talking casually on a forum and scriptwriting for a PRODUCT you have made and advertised as a high-standard, professional production. Those two things come with VERY different expectations. Nobody expects my English on a porn forum to be good, but they do expect the English in a game like this to be when it's described and hyped this way

 

[Kuokaman]

Very poor English and no important choices. That's a pity, cause the graphic is good, girls are pretty and the story is not so bad.

 

[Vilkas Creative]

Is there any other error besides translation?

That's probably true but that's a separate issue from porn, that's more political stuff, not porn. We talked about porn and I said why porn specifically has been under attack and by who, which is very well documented. You're talking about something else. All censorship is bad tho

Then don't advertise your game as intending to "fix the many shortcomings we see in adult games" and "raise the bar very high" and say it's made by a "team of professionals"?!

There is a big difference between just talking casually on a forum and scriptwriting for a PRODUCT you have made and advertised as a high-standard, professional production. Those two things come with VERY different expectations. Nobody expects my English on a porn forum to be good, but they do expect the English in a game like this to be when it's described and hyped this way

Are there any other errors besides the translation?
we just want to know

 

[JohnF95zone]

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Then don't advertise your game as intending to "fix the many shortcomings we see in adult games" and "raise the bar very high" and say it's made by a "team of professionals"?!

There is a big difference between just talking casually on a forum and scriptwriting for a PRODUCT you have made and advertised as a high-standard, professional production. Those two things come with VERY different expectations. Nobody expects my English on a porn forum to be good, but they do expect the English in a game like this to be when it's described and hyped this way
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Two wrongs do not make it right, and I was not specifically talking about this game but it was in general, even those game that did NOT claimed to be professional, nonetheless suffers the same treatment.

There are obviously better way to handle it but ongoing neverending bullshit mockery and demeaning remarks/comments are NOT the way, but you do you.

 

[doku99]

Two wrongs do not make it right, and I was not specifically talking about this game but it was in general, even those game that did NOT claimed to be professional, nonetheless suffers the same treatment.

There are obviously better way to handle it but ongoing neverending bullshit mockery and demeaning remarks/comments are NOT the way, but you do you.

You don't understand. It depends on what expectations are set. If I advertise myself to you as a "professional" trying to "raise the standard" of my industry, then give you a completely amateur product, then yes, you are in your right to say 'bro, gtfo'. That's not being mean, that's just an appropriate response to setting false expetactions

 

[Akainu456]

I'm not so sure if it is still "primarily from Christian activist groups". Not in the USA a certainly not when Big Tech is concerned (your PayPal, Patreon, Social media etc).

To be clear, I'm not denying the self-evident fact, that not only Christian but most religious doctrines seem to be, if not outright hostile, at least highly suspicious toward porn. And most conservative thinkers I know are heavily pro family orientated and see porn as a detrimental force. That's a fact.

Buuuuut... In recent years, there is quite powerful other force, at the moment I would say even more hyper-moralistically inclined (in the worst possible meaning of the word). And this is EXACTLY the MO of people I'm talking about: trying to hit advertisers of people they disagree with, businesses they don't like, pressuring payment processors and banks, or even contacting employers of individuals to get them fired. And they can do it at the highest levels of bureaucracy like the Department of Justice under Obama/Biden administration (Operation Choke Point). That was exactly and purposefully what they did: legal businesses, and porn and sex work was one of the primary ones, ware targets, and it was done by "investigating" banks and financial institutions not in a legitimate sense of the world (to protect consumers) but as a pressure tactic, so they drop undesirable (for administration) clients.

EDIT: And what happened with PayPal in last few days is one of the bast examples also. Nothing to do with Christians. Everything to do with totalitarian impulses in people. Charging peoples accounts 2500$ for saying the wrong thing (decided by PayPal sole discretion).

Jesus is my king but I'm addicted to porn hope that he can forgive me Don't want to go to hell

 

[consumptionist]

haha barely been released and already someone thinks this is as good as something like drifty's leap of faith. what a mad world.
over-rating a game is just as damaging as under-rating and raises the chance of inflating developer's egos, which then leads to them abandoning their project when ratings don't match financial support.

nothing here not seen before. all renders and average story. a Vn for me and no signs it will become a VN or vN.
good luck anyway dev

 

[fake.name.again]

That's probably true but that's a separate issue from porn, that's more political stuff, not porn. We talked about porn and I said why porn specifically has been under attack and by who, which is very well documented. You're talking about something else. All censorship is bad tho

What are you talking about? Yes, as I already said: "Operation Choke Point" did specifically target porn and sex work (among other things like legal gun owners or money landing services). Actually, the first time I heard of this when Eric Weinstein interviewed Ashley Mathews (aka Riley Reid) on his podcast (Portal #021) and how it hit her business. I know that the Christians are the typical whipping boy on these issues on the internet, and as I said, mostly deserved. But you have your Tipper Gore and others that were and are creating censorship on cultural issues. And what do you think all the crazy feminist harpies, like Sarkeesian and her lot, that get palpitations about female representation and over sexualization in culture, think of the porn? Whole Woke cult?

You might be on some kind of anti-Christian crusade and want to blame them for all the worst in the world, and if so I can't stop you (and will defend your right to freely express your sentiment). But if you (or anybody) is sincerely interested in understanding where the pushback to porn is coming from, you will be ill served, and you will underestimate the problem by magnitudes by collapsing it to one factor.

Jesus is my king but I'm addicted to porn hope that he can forgive me Don't want to go to hell
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I'm not sure how what you have written is in any shape or form a response to what I said? Seem like complete non sequitur to me. If you thought that what I said was some kind of Christian defence or profession of faith, and wanted to provoke, nice effort, but you must have some trouble understanding what I have written. I'm agnostic. I'm just equally suspicious of fundamentalist anti-Christian as fundamentalist Christians. Or anyone who goes around and point to "The Enemy" be it race, religion, class, or other nonsense.

 

[doku99]

What are you talking about? Yes, as I already said: "Operation Choke Point" did specifically target porn and sex work (among other things like legal gun owners or money landing services). Actually, the first time I heard of this when Eric Weinstein interviewed Ashley Mathews (aka Riley Reid) on his podcast (Portal #021) and how it hit her business. I know that the Christians are the typical whipping boy on these issues on the internet, and as I said, mostly deserved. But you have your Tipper Gore and others that were and are creating censorship on cultural issues. And what do you think all the crazy feminist harpies, like Sarkeesian and her lot, that get palpitations about female representation and over sexualization in culture, think of the porn? Whole Woke cult?

You might be on some kind of anti-Christian crusade and want to blame them for all the worst in the world, and if so I can't stop you (and will defend your right to freely express your sentiment). But if you (or anybody) is sincerely interested in understanding where the pushback to porn is coming from, you will be ill served, and you will underestimate the problem by magnitudes by collapsing it to one factor.


I'm not sure how what you have written is in any shape or form a response to what I said? Seem like complete non sequitur to me. If you thought that what I said was some kind of Christian defence or profession of faith, and wanted to provoke, nice effort, but you must have some trouble understanding what I have written. I'm agnostic. I'm just equally suspicious of fundamentalist anti-Christian as fundamentalist Christians. Or anyone who goes around and point to "The Enemy" be it race, religion, class, or other nonsense.

Bro jesus christ "this is a wendys" meme hello?? I'm not on a antichristian crusade lol, calm down Poindexter
You really had a LOT on your mind but damn man who asked
Sounds like you are way too deep into some ideology and political stuff, i don't like woke either but pls, this is embarrassing

 

[natz23]

Hmm. Another game where MC leaves with his step family, too many games like this already. But models looks good, gonna watch how the story goes.

 

[Pantic_10]

good game

 

[bosp]

Fucking hell... dialogues in this VN are a complete shit show, they might as well be written in Sanskrit and would not make much sense to anyone that knew how to read it.
Yeah I know, this is a poon VN so nobody expects dialogues to exactly be "a work of art" but ffs, at least make them have some sense. Like this, it's a wet dream of a feeble-minded teenage schizophrenic with a severe case of dyslexia.

Sorry to say this but... the author needs to get back to the drawing board and start anew.

 

[incest lover m/s]

Hmm. Another game where MC leaves with his step family, too many games like this already. But models looks good, gonna watch how the story goes.

thanks to patreon's sensura to incest the game becomes similar to several games I've seen here

 

[Deleted member 5002149]

Very poor English and no important choices. That's a pity, cause the graphic is good, girls are pretty and the story is not so bad.

i for one enjoy the broken english, there's a sort of charm to it.

 

[Cornfield]

Why, when viewing a female from the bottom up, do we get offset legs and then the bodies trunk central ?
It looks like a magician's trick.
Otherwise, it looks like it has a lot of promise, quite a few good options set up already.

 

[J0K3RXXX]

Promising.

 

[Sunedosa]

Looks good but i would recommend

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for whoever's responsible for the script, it's a tad weak and doesn't feel very natural. Who would even say something like this ? : "There is someone wants to meet you "

 

[ktunga]

Is there any other error besides translation?

Are there any other errors besides the translation?
we just want to know

well isnt always about errors ,some would say if the script doesnt have a coherent correlative story and pace is a big error,maybe is bcs the bad translation but is impossible to say till the proofreader chek first the idea/script for you to be sure you are not doing any,so becarefull with the way to rush the story and the pace bcs sometimes when you have a good story and you try to rush events [like you do over here /ppl without the full knowledge of the script will lash on you bcs there is not time for transitions.i will definetely try to chek first your idea chek with the proofreader and try to give him time to come with a solution.i know sometimes devs dont wanna share any kind of development with others but the tru is not always the best scriptweighter put on paper the best iidea sometimes he needs help from outside,you can be the best in your field but when is time to put on work ppl doesnt know how ,i dont say you dont know i only say maybe is time to chek with others put space in your work and have a different point of view sometimes it helps.No matter what good luck to you.

 

[Beast161616]

Hijab women with good quality design. that's new.

This game is incomplete without a PAWG Nun.

 

[rambo25]

I was looking at the preview pics an got curious.
Do we know if she's related to superwoman yet?.
I know she's supoosed to be inside stood at the window looking out.
But it looks like she's hovering just outside.
Because unless i missed something we Humans don't tend to be reflective?. View attachment 2096549
Just Curious.

A balcony maybe ?