1.the female is a dog. would not bang it if you paid me. 2.i know its a v0-1 but you didn't add much to get us into the game. a MOVIE TRAILER last longer than this. and tells us whats more to come
I understand that the mom is not your liking and I respect that. Thank you for giving me a high expectation and sorry if I wasn't able to meet that, I was deciding between 1 dialogue per image or 1 image but a lot of dialogues in which can easily prolong the game. I put 120+ images on this first released. On the other hand, your request can easily be done if I have my own team and better machine. Someday, I'm gonna meet that expectation of yours.
If you could give me a better idea for the patreon benefits that would be great as I don't want to see someone paying $20 with the same content as $1. It took me a lot of days to come up with this idea to ensure that the benefits on my patreon tier is fair.
Alright, there's a bunch of different things that devs do on patreon that people will pay for, but that won't turn people off your game (particularly given how early on you are monetizing your game as a first time dev).
Here's some stuff people will pay for but won't think of as scummy or scammy:
- Staggered release dates, having the highest tier/top few tiers get it 1-2 weeks ahead of free players then the lower tiers getting it half that ahead of free players, then free getting it last.
- Patreon polls. Things like: Which character should I work on most for next update? What kind of content/fetishes are you guys most into? Help me design a new character. etcetcetc
- Wallpapers and other renders that are separate to the game. Oftentimes you can even use polls to decide what the render will be of, or give these to high tier patrons and let them choose. This allows you to do some quality stuff in 4k AND put your characters in situations they wouldn't be in in your game.
- Name in credits or somewhere else in game
- Extra status in a discord server you set up (having a discord is always a good idea anyway)
- Offering to have a 5-15 minute discord chat with high tier patrons to talk about your game.
Basically the stuff that upsets people is overtly locking off content in the game. Most other things are preferred. And given youre a first time dev, you need to build up more goodwill before you start having really high patreon tiers. People will assume you are grabbing for cash and will be less likely to support you.
seen that "mom" character too much the past week..for that reason alone i'll bypass this..eventually one gets sick of the same ole ugly over and over in various games..be nice if Dev's thought outside of the box that horseface whoville UGH is stored in...
SHOCKED...thats a classic 1970 Iso Griffo horrendously butchered by some noob who knows nothing about rarity and history :O hehehehhee...it would be laughed out of Amelia Island..tsktsk..for shame.
lmao you are actually more like competing with skullyakker and darthsmut, 3 versions of the same game
(you say u want to compete with dc and icstor? know for a start those guys dont make 3 versión of a game, they reléase the same game with a diferent date for each tiers members, making 3 games will only piss your supporters if u ever get any considering that no one like being forced into a tier pay.)
Id say good luck but seeing the way you are starting i dont think u will have much future in the game industry, go take a look to darthsmut game in this fórum and you will see what im talking about. take the advice or dont @PatreonExplicit
To be fair, as one of the people who helped kick that insanity off, this guys monetization is nowhere even close to the level of ol' smutty. Yeah, if he doesn't change it up he's going to run into similar trouble AND he doesnt have Star Wars branding to rely on. BUT he seems to actually be trying to make a game, and he may have just made an earnest and well intentioned mistake, rather than smut whose head was so far up his own ass it reached his stomach.
Ok when you go to the preferences that is a bit mess up you have some of them overlapping each other like the load and left Rollback, Start and fullscreen ect. Also It is showing you while Karen is talking ect instead of you in some places when you are in your room
Thank you for that additional information, as I am worried about getting my thread locked up if I violates some upload rules and besides my upload speed is isn't that high enough to upload uncompressed and compressed version at the same time. Lat question if may I ask if you were in my situation would you rather compressed the game but gives you additional work to do or just leave it as it is?
Unless you do something drastic, like start violating rule #7, the mods aren't going to lock your thread. We're a pretty accepting community, and the mods don't want to blast people. If you do mess up, you'll most likely be asked to change something, but not have the thread deleted.
Your game currently weighs in at 500 megs. The next update will (I'd imagine) be 1 gig, then 1.5 gigs, then 2 gigs. 500 megs is ok, but you start getting into multiple gigs and your uploads will take forever, and people will complain. Personally, I'd try to get the images as small as possible, while still having a quality that's acceptable to you, the artist. Yes, an extra compression step will take longer, but it's the kind of thing you can script and let run overnight. Just make sure you save off the images in their original quality, and work on copies. You might change your mind later. First I'd try webp with quality 100. If that's good, try quality 90 or 80. Ship the smallest that is acceptable to you. If 100 isn't acceptable, try quality lossless. Do this on the uncompressed 1080p pngs.
Thank you so much for that information, I'll definitely let them know about this so I can get that dev tag, thank you once again!
I understand that you're frustrated with the game, on the other hand could you at least elaborate what went wrong? Thank you!
Because of being fair for the people who paid a lot? For an example, someone paid $20 for game but the content was also the same as $1, I don't see the point, unless you could convince me that it is okay to pay for $20 game with the same content as $1 game, that's great!
Here's the thing tho, you are misunderstanding the purpose of patreon. People giving money on patreon aren't outright purchasing a product, they are DONATING toward it.
Locking important content to higher tiers, even in a non-porn game, is a quick way to ruin community goodwill and cause most potential donators to immediately pass you over.
You want to reward those who pay more? Try looking at the patreon pages of some of the other popular games. You will notice content poll participation, wallpapers, discord access/special status in said discord, direct chats with the dev, content sneak peeks, and many other options that don't involve turning your game's content into a subscription service and making more work for yourself in having to make multiple versions of the game.
I'm pretty sure most people have more tolerance for patron milking than they do for paywalling content.
Alright, there's a bunch of different things that devs do on patreon that people will pay for, but that won't turn people off your game (particularly given how early on you are monetizing your game as a first time dev).
Here's some stuff people will pay for but won't think of as scummy or scammy:
- Staggered release dates, having the highest tier/top few tiers get it 1-2 weeks ahead of free players then the lower tiers getting it half that ahead of free players, then free getting it last.
- Patreon polls. Things like: Which character should I work on most for next update? What kind of content/fetishes are you guys most into? Help me design a new character. etcetcetc
- Wallpapers and other renders that are separate to the game. Oftentimes you can even use polls to decide what the render will be of, or give these to high tier patrons and let them choose. This allows you to do some quality stuff in 4k AND put your characters in situations they wouldn't be in in your game.
- Name in credits or somewhere else in game
- Extra status in a discord server you set up (having a discord is always a good idea anyway)
- Offering to have a 5-15 minute discord chat with high tier patrons to talk about your game.
Basically the stuff that upsets people is overtly locking off content in the game. Most other things are preferred. And given youre a first time dev, you need to build up more goodwill before you start having really high patreon tiers. People will assume you are grabbing for cash and will be less likely to support you.
Thank you for writing this one to me, I really appreciate your effort on this.
1 - 2 weeks release date seems good for some reason. However, I really don't want to have 1 - 2 weeks early release date, that will put pressure on me and I'm glad everyone criticize my patreon page more than my game, and nobody subscribe the tier 3 - 4, now I took it down, so there won't be anymore pressure about the release date.
With that kind of poll, I'm pretty sure, you're making the game because of your patreon not because you like creating a game, once you've lost a lot of patreon, eventually you will abandoned your game due to lack of patreon.
Funny thing is you bring up the wallpaper. Alternative outfit is more reasonable than with just 1 pc of wallpaper, was that makes sense to you? Plus I'm using an 8 years old CPU, if I'm going to render that, I'm not sure if my pc can handle that, I can't even type on my notepad while I'm rendering, let alone rendering HD 4k for a couple of hours.
Name on credits, I already did that on one of my tier.
I don't use discord and I don't know what makes that important, I've been talking to this thread for a while.
You might be right about I upset a lot of people due to locking off content and they think of me that I'm leeching off their money so bad, but I'm just trying to balance the tiers.
seen that "mom" character too much the past week..for that reason alone i'll bypass this..eventually one gets sick of the same ole ugly over and over in various games..be nice if Dev's thought outside of the box that horseface whoville UGH is stored in...
lmao you are actually more like competing with skullyakker and darthsmut, 3 versions of the same game
(you say u want to compete with dc and icstor? know for a start those guys dont make 3 versión of a game, they reléase the same game with a diferent date for each tiers members, making 3 games will only piss your supporters if u ever get any considering that no one like being forced into a tier pay.)
Id say good luck but seeing the way you are starting i dont think u will have much future in the game industry, go take a look to darthsmut game in this fórum and you will see what im talking about. take the advice or dont @PatreonExplicit
You're actually make sense here, you're the reason why I took my tiers 2 - 4 down to just one. I played a lot of adult game and I'm the only person who launched 3 version at once which is crazy and I don't have my own team yet and furthermore, this will increase my workload. That really make sense! I really thank you for that djkunn.
I'm sorry for the overlapping and the name issue as I forgot to change the character's later while I'm writing the script, I will try to find a way to fix the overlapping.
Ok when you go to the preferences that is a bit mess up you have some of them overlapping each other like the load and left Rollback, Start and fullscreen ect. Also It is showing you while Karen is talking ect instead of you in some places when you are in your room
Unless you do something drastic, like start violating rule #7, the mods aren't going to lock your thread. We're a pretty accepting community, and the mods don't want to blast people. If you do mess up, you'll most likely be asked to change something, but not have the thread deleted.
Your game currently weighs in at 500 megs. The next update will (I'd imagine) be 1 gig, then 1.5 gigs, then 2 gigs. 500 megs is ok, but you start getting into multiple gigs and your uploads will take forever, and people will complain. Personally, I'd try to get the images as small as possible, while still having a quality that's acceptable to you, the artist. Yes, an extra compression step will take longer, but it's the kind of thing you can script and let run overnight. Just make sure you save off the images in their original quality, and work on copies. You might change your mind later. First I'd try webp with quality 100. If that's good, try quality 90 or 80. Ship the smallest that is acceptable to you. If 100 isn't acceptable, try quality lossless. Do this on the uncompressed 1080p pngs.
Here's the thing tho, you are misunderstanding the purpose of patreon. People giving money on patreon aren't outright purchasing a product, they are DONATING toward it.
Locking important content to higher tiers, even in a non-porn game, is a quick way to ruin community goodwill and cause most potential donators to immediately pass you over.
You want to reward those who pay more? Try looking at the patreon pages of some of the other popular games. You will notice content poll participation, wallpapers, discord access/special status in said discord, direct chats with the dev, content sneak peeks, and many other options that don't involve turning your game's content into a subscription service and making more work for yourself in having to make multiple versions of the game.
I'm pretty sure most people have more tolerance for patron milking than they do for paywalling content.
I understand that now, that Patreon is only meant for donating. I only did that as I thought it would be fair for the other who donate a lot of money as I value those money and at the same time the content won't AFFECT any gameplay or story line but I guess it was my mistake for valuing their donation.
Since I don't feel like dealing with de-walling your massive multi-quote, I'll say this, censoring content based on patreon tier in a pornographic game is very much paywalling important content. Most people are going to show up to fap, not for the story. If your writing is good, they will stick around for the story, but that isn't the draw initially.
The hostile tone you are taking towards some people who disagree (and I quote: 'I guess it was my mistake for valuing their donation' Very passive-aggressive hostility) isn't helping either.
There are a million and one ways to handle patreon tiering without locking content and making those that donate less feel completely left out. Higher patreon tiers should have a BONUS, not an INCENTIVE. Unfortunately, making seperate versions that are only available to those that have payed a specific amount that month, very much crosses over into subscription model territory, which is a big no-no.
Simply put there is a good reason for 0 Patrons on Your website (Your going at this all wrong)
No one in they're right mind is going to download a 500mb game with only 2 parts (inside the car and inside the room)
and then have to go to Your website and pay money to see what happens next (seems that no one else has tried this before)
Since I don't feel like dealing with de-walling your massive multi-quote, I'll say this, censoring content based on patreon tier in a pornographic game is very much paywalling important content. Most people are going to show up to fap, not for the story. If your writing is good, they will stick around for the story, but that isn't the draw initially.
The hostile tone you are taking towards some people who disagree (and I quote: 'I guess it was my mistake for valuing their donation' Very passive-aggressive hostility) isn't helping either.
There are a million and one ways to handle patreon tiering without locking content and making those that donate less feel completely left out. Higher patreon tiers should have a BONUS, not an INCENTIVE. Unfortunately, making seperate versions that are only available to those that have payed a specific amount that month, very much crosses over into subscription model territory, which is a big no-no.
The perception of yours is also right, it never crossed my mind that some of the users came here just to FAP, no wonder why I don't understand why the censored stuff is important to them and thanks to you as you enlighten me with this thing.
Among those million ways you are pertaining, I picked the wrong one. No worries, I already put down the tier 2 - 4 to ensure that this thread won't be bump with the same concern.
Simply put there is a good reason for 0 Patrons on Your website (Your going at this all wrong)
No one in they're right mind is going to download a 500mb game with only 2 parts (inside the car and inside the room)
and then have to go to Your website and pay money to see what happens next (seems that no one else has tried this before)
My game is 1 image per dialogue, expect you will have a 500mb from that alone and take note that 500mb was already been compressed on PNG format. Unless I have another free time to compressed using WebP format, it could decreased it to at least 250mb.
