Wish there was a button to avoid the ntr crying . Honestly i don't like scat but i don't go crying and kink shaming.
In all fairness, While I do agree that there is a large number of people that eschew NTR because they simply don't like it, most of the time, for most of them, their input usually just amounts to something to the regards of "Hey, neat idea, like the renders, but I'm skipping this one, because I'm not into NTR, but good luck to the dev". That's not "crying", that's them basically saying "Hey, not my cup of tea, but giving credit on the areas I think look good, hope it goes well for ya man". What's wrong with that? They're just taking a couple moments to leave POSITIVE feedback for some more objective areas where they think the dev is doing GOOD, even though it's not their kind of thing. That's usually the case. Now, honestly, are there some assholes that throw a fit about a game being "ruined" by NTR, especially if it's avoidable or what not, or assholes just trash talking NTR fans because they don't like the kink? Sure. But not only are they in a small minority, but I think we all agree, fuck those guys. No matter what kinks you like, assholes are assholes, there's not really much more to discuss there.
From my own experience & observations, most of the substantial criticism towards NTR creators & games isn't from Anti-NTR "haters", but actually from people that do like NTR to some degree, but are tired of how homogenous, repetative, low effort & bland it's been for so long. I mean, my guy. Let's look at objective facts. MOST of us here, in general, prefer this medium because we like having an interesting story with the smut, or some degree over control of where the story goes & some interest in exploration & adventure to see where different choices might take us, for better or for worse. Sure, it's still pornographic in nature, so for most people, kinks & fap value are a factor, but I mean, if that's the ONLY or even predominant factor, why wouldn't those folks instead just go to the equally as, (if not more so), vast mountain of porn comics, or the millions of hours of actual porn, that are A, complete works, B, have a much higher concentration of fapable content, (like 80% to 90% plus), & all they have to do is hit play, lotion up & stroke away? Why would they instead opt for a medium like this, where 70% of the content is plot & non porn, it's drip fed in small updates at a time with waits of months, sometimes years between updates, The always looming threat of being blueballed with the abandoned tag, & you have to grind through all the supposedly non fapable filler to get to the handful of still drawings or 3 to 5 second loops to get your rocks off? In every way, it's inferior to other options when it comes to delivering pure fap value. So obviously there MUST be some other factor that these games bring to the table that appeals to people other than fap value. & I firmly believe that's A, story & B, the freedom to explore & control where the story goes, based on the choices made. It's just common sense.
So, with that in mind. Yes, this issue of low quality, low effort schlock is something that is present within pretty much all sub-genres in this medium. No one is disputing that. However, there's a fairly unique problem with the NTR community, at least as far as what's being offered. Let's not sugar coat it man. NTR games that actually are unique, with a new, unique & interesting story, THIS game included, are rather rare & very much in the small minority. Even this one only qualifies as slightly better than most, because at least it breaks a little bit from the usual plot premise of most NTR games. But I mean, If we're really being real here, 90+% of NTR games here are literally the exact same story, retold over & over & over & over & over & over & over again. I mean... My guy. You guys usually call Non-NTR fans "vanilla", but more than 9 out of 10 of the games you guys like are literally the same story, just with the characters names, models, title & some bits of dialogue changed. There's literally nothing more vanillia than that. That's like claiming people that don't like Top Ramen, (like cup of noodles ramen), are "vanilla", then claiming you're not vanilla because yesterday you ate Beef flavored ramen & today you're going super spicy & exotic by eating shrimp ramen. Meanwhile, it's still just the same water re-constituted noodles with salty flavored powder mixed in. THAT is vanilla. Throw some meat in there, doctor it up, etc... To simplify, the majority of the criticism that I've seen in the NTR community is basically people that like to eat ramen, but are bored & tired of eating the same noodles with flavoring powder. They want more than the same thing over & over.
However, when they post comments to this regard, they get dogpiled by what I can only describe as NTR cultists, whom accuse them of being anti-NTR haters & blah blah blah. I know, because I've had it happen to me. I'm not "anti-NTR", I'm not an "NTR-hater", I actually think it can be real interesting & has a lot of usable potential in good stories. Keep in mind, half the appeal of these games is enjoying a story & having the freedom & control to take the story in different directions & explore where it goes based on different choices. Let's do a quick comparison. On the Incest harem side, let's look at Dating My Daughter, Legend of Versyl & Dark Neighborhood. Now obviously, subjective tastes vary, but in all 3 of those games, they all have very unique stories & the results of choices made can lead down very diffeent paths. Now compare that against say NTR games like The Edge of, Loretta's Brand New Job, The Fall of Juliet,
Netorare Wife Misumi, Hametorare, etc... I could list more, the problem is, that most of them are so homogenous that they are completely forgettable. ALL of them have the EXACT SAME STORY, only with very cosmetic changes to the art, character names, game title & some small, inconsequential plot points. Otherwise, though they are literal clones. This NTR community seems unique in that it's THIS unwavering from the same formula over & over again, likewise, if there's ever suggestions like "Hey, how about choices that lead down a revenge path, or maybe a route where the husband rallies & makes a successful comeback or something, ANYTHING different, that suggestion is met with hostility, as it somehow besmirches the purity of these NTR games. Whether it panders to the kink or not isn't really the issue. It's not an "how about something for the non NTR folk?" It's about creating SOME kind of variance to actually give the player something new & unique to experience & explore. SOMETHING to cut the monotony.
I mean, my feelings on the kinks of NTR & incest are the same. I could take or leave it. The issue I, & most of the "haters", have, is that when we come across a new incest game, we know that odds are, at least we're going to get a story that's at least somewhat unique & have some control over where it goes. With NTR however, half the time we won't even bother, not because we dislike NTR, but because we already know exactly what's going to happen from start to end because we've already played the same game a billion times before, so we'd rather not waste our time on an already overdone rerun.
In short, TL;DR version, It's not the Anti-NTR crowd that's doing most of the "crying", it's actually other people that like NTR, but are just tired & burnt out on playing the exact same game with a thousand different facelifts over & over again. We want something that's actually new & unique. We want new & interesting stories. We WANT to explore different routes to see what's there. I mean, the fact that this genre has the highest concentration of Kinetic novels, (defeating half the purpose of the game itself), alone speaks volumes about the sheer lack of creativity & effort in this sub-genre. Now, to be honest, THIS game & the creator's other games still aren't all that good, in my opinion, as they still follow the same, single outcome, linear trajectory, but at least they are trying to present plot premises that are at least a little different. & the fact that such little additional effort has makes such a profound difference is kind of the issue with the rest of what the community has to offer.
It ain't NTR hate, my guy. It's lack of creativity, lack of something new, lack of real effort hate. The kink ain't the problem man, it's the lack of any real effort to give us something new that is.
EDIT: whoabacha Not sure why you're reacting with an angry emoji, did I say anything that's not factually true? Like I said, I ain't an "anti-NTR hater", nothing that I said was wrong, nor any kind of hate against NTR in general. All I did was point out the FACTS that most of what you guys perceive as "anti-NTR hate" is actually people that either like NTR, or at least are indifferent on it, & WANT to like NTR games, but find themselves being disappointed because of the sheer lack of originality & the inexplicable insistence of most NTR creators to just keep redoing the same story , the same way every time. Unless that is what you're angry about, why the angry emoji?
