tarzan999

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Completely missed the point... Nowhere did Grim compare this game to other RPGs. He stated this is an RPG.
If you promote your game as something it will be compared to other similar things when people are deciding how to spend their time or money. This is a fine porn game but a dogshit rpg. You can do better by playing anything from the 90s onwards.
 
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You have an incredibly contrived and ignorant view of the world. It doesn't matter if I pay for the game or not because this is a free website and just because there is vocal group of people supporting something it doesn't necessarily justify it....
Contrived view of the world? What the hell does that even mean in this context?

Ya, my view of the world is ignorant. I believe if a Dev has created a game based on his vision and is financially succeeding he should follow through with his vision. You, with your firm grasp on how the world works, believe the Dev should listen to and alter their vision/creation based on someone being vocal and whining on a free website.
 
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so the age command is not working anymore?

SugarCube.active.State.variables.age

I mean it shows the active slave but it seems the whole Av2 and Av1 slave commands were removed? I just need an army of 18 yo sexy girls

EDIT:
It seems none of the active commands are writing on the girls anymore or is it me? I can edit player stats/skills no problem but slave stats are a no go
Saveditonline works easy enough to alter ages and stats.
 

tarzan999

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Contrived view of the world? What the hell does that even mean in this context?

Ya, my view of the world is ignorant. I believe if a Dev has created a game based on his vision and is financially succeeding he should follow through with his vision. You, with your firm grasp on how the world works, believe the Dev should listen to and alter their vision/creation based on someone being vocal and whining on a free website.
It's incredibly contrived to try and silence someone by saying that they are not supporting the game so their opinion doesn't matter as if that makes any sense. Do you need to be fascist or communist to critique them? Do you need to taste shit before you say that it doesn't taste good? It's a free country and this website is free so I can say whatever I want and only the moderators have powers over me. Not even the dev is in some magical way more right.
- Could I be wrong about what Patreons want? :unsure:
- No, it is the Patreons who are wrong! (y)
There could be more. Use your brain.
Then why are you complaining? You'
To try and influence the developer or at the very least the community so the game is (at least imo) improved. The same reason everyone complains.
 

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It's incredibly contrived to try and silence someone by saying that they are not supporting the game so their opinion doesn't matter as if that makes any sense. Do you need to be fascist or communist to critique them? Do you need to taste shit before you say that it doesn't taste good? It's a free country and this website is free so I can say whatever I want and only the moderators have powers over me. Not even the dev is in some magical way more right.

There could be more. Use your brain.

To try and influence the developer or at the very least the community so the game is (at least imo) improved. The same reason everyone complains.
:LUL:
 
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It's incredibly contrived to try and silence someone by saying that they are not supporting the game so their opinion doesn't matter as if that makes any sense. Do you need to be fascist or communist to critique them? Do you need to taste shit before you say that it doesn't taste good? It's a free country and this website is free so I can say whatever I want and only the moderators have powers over me. Not even the dev is in some magical way more right.

There could be more. Use your brain.

To try and influence the developer or at the very least the community so the game is (at least imo) improved. The same reason everyone complains.
You keep using "contrived". I don't think you know what it means.

Never tried to silence you. Pointing out flaws in your logic is not trying to silence you.

The Dev replied directly to you, lol. But ya, just dig in further and keep telling everyone, including the Dev, that your definition of the game is correct and everyone else is wrong.
 
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tarzan999

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You keep using "contrived". I don't think you know what it means.

Never tried to silence you. Pointing out flaws in your logic is not trying to silence you.

The Dev replied directly to you, lol. But ya, just dig in further and keep telling everyone, including the Dev, that your definition of the game is correct and everyone else is wrong.
I am actually using the word 'contrived' impeccably.

You are not pointing out any flaws in my logic or at least you are failing so miserably that I am not aware of the attempt.

In my defense I stopped replying when you stopped replying. Someone decided to reignite convo and here we are.

I try to remind everyone that my thoughts are only that, BUT it's obvious that this game would benefit more from art and animations than some religion mechanic. Sort the games on f95 by popular and I can guarantee you you won't find many games like this one on the first page(even if you display max number of games per page).

Just because someone is critiquing something you like or suggests ideas that you don't like doesn't mean that you have to try and stop him. It's just opinion. If you don't care about what I have to say just stop replying. You won't change my opinion. I won't magically start thinking that less art and more fluff will benefit the game.
 

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Fart in the wind opinions thinking they are important like tar-tarded over there.

GD is one of the most proficient devs on the site, got the game successful so quickly because he knew what he wanted and did so in a relatively short time, and he continues to balance the gaming elements with the porn ones while gaining an audience.

Don't need idiots suggesting easy childish takes like "YoU NeEd MoRe PoRn PiCs" without understanding how to implement it effectively in the game and also admitting he refuses to support the dev.

Can't provide a solution, can't provide support, but continues to whine about things he barely grasps - that's the tar for you.
 

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This isn't directly relevant to the ongoing argument but I got curious and looked it up so I am subjecting everyone else to it as well.
The 'Better to be silent and thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt' (and its myriad variations) is one of those phrases which is commonly attributed to figures like Lincoln and Mark Twain.
The earliest know appearance of the modern version of the phrase is from 'Mrs. Goose, Her Book' from 1907 and is thought to be the origin of the modern version of the phrase.

Of course, all versions of the phrase are thought to come from a passage in the Bible of similar sentiment.

That aside, having played the new update a fair bit I have to say it is pretty enjoyable, the system with slaves and issids being unified did take a bit of getting used to but is certainly neat, the changes to the house and its upgrades are cool and it feels much more our own space rather than a linear set of strict upgrades to specific rooms, it also does a better job of conveying the scale and scope of our 'little' estate.
Also the new character creation is interesting, a lot of flexibility and the emphasis on opening out the process of creating ones build is cool, the sheer amount of shineys proves ever tempting, I can definitely see first time players shying away from it though as it does require you to make a lot of decisions which will shape your future build in ways that a first time player are not really going to understand, but I guess that is why the pre made options are there.
 

darkengeobr

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People discussing whether the game is good or not, meanwhile i'm still trying to figure out how to actually make money in this game for over a year. Are the investments actually worth it?
 

tarzan999

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wait seriously? is this one of those you have to cheat to actually get anywhere type of games or is this a joke?
I am sure that the developers have made systems that work by now, but the amount of content is so small that grinding for hours feels pointless.

Increase your money, food and medicine with cheats. Optionally find the variable for plasma rifles and get them as well so the combat becomes a joke and buy/find yourself some slaves. Let me warn you though that 90% of slaves have the same formula so when you fully develop ~2 you will quickly lose interest. The game is great if you are playing for the first time and with cheats.
 

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Hot damn. Discipline training is made so much easier. *assigns every new girl as guards with Ayden as captain*

I wonder if Felix, Space Marine, Black Guard, or Corso as captain provides all the same effect. I assume all five of these high profile mercs are good at baseline but there may be differences in effect. Time to see.

Happiness is made easier too. Although my house reverted back to dilapidated state and I did not notice it so my house sucks but I got the pool updated. That's something. Time to saveedit the house back to a decent state like it was pre-patch. The bare luxuries I enjoyed before.

Auto shower is now a toggle option. Perfect. My kind of cheats: auto shower and freeze aging. And the house basic upgrade I guess.

Time to test the slave mistress function.

Lovisa, my precious, grinding your kindness and willpower paid off.
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Oooh, Caitlyn, sweet! You were the actual hardest to raise but you will make the rest of it easy. I assume the random perfectionist trait and workaholic turbo-boosted this.
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Shame that the blowjob to defiance pipeline is gone now. Oh well.
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I was scared Laika's stats I worked hard on was going to revert when she was reverted back. Nice. It did not. Also, that is actually the lowest natural Kissing XP stat: 5. Even Lovisa started with 15. Fun fact: I held off sleeping with Laika for all of 0.8.2.3. That should actually give me +5 Willpower stats irl :cool:
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I am actually using the word 'contrived' impeccably.

You are not pointing out any flaws in my logic or at least you are failing so miserably that I am not aware of the attempt.

In my defense I stopped replying when you stopped replying. Someone decided to reignite convo and here we are.

I try to remind everyone that my thoughts are only that, BUT it's obvious that this game would benefit more from art and animations than some religion mechanic. Sort the games on f95 by popular and I can guarantee you you won't find many games like this one on the first page(even if you display max number of games per page).

Just because someone is critiquing something you like or suggests ideas that you don't like doesn't mean that you have to try and stop him. It's just opinion. If you don't care about what I have to say just stop replying. You won't change my opinion. I won't magically start thinking that less art and more fluff will benefit the game.
1. You're not, but points for "impeccably".
2. You don't remind people of "your thoughts". You make a definitive statement, then back off and say "I have a right to have opinion, quit trying to silence me" as soon as your statement is criticized.
3. You say "opinion" and without a pause follow with "BUT it's obvious" and give an opinion. See the issue?
4. Ever consider this game might be popular BECAUSE there are not many others like it?
5. Quit pretending to be a victim. It's pathetic. No one tried to stop you. Even when the Dev replied to you and clearly contracted you; Even he didn't ask you to quit posting.
6. You have a right to your "opinion" just as others can critique your opinion. Of course, it helps if you would base your opinion on facts. You base your opinions on the false premise that this is a "porn game". That undermines everything you post.
7. The game is succeeding by following the Dev's vision.
 
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